makes sense. also, i believe that it's time to stop - #92905017 added by angreif at xbox one

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(05/22/2013)[-]

xbox 1 charges small fee to us pre-owned games cus it will be permenantly on the xbox 1 and you wont need the disc I've been thinking about this it could make it cheaper lets say me and two friends want fifa 14 we buy 1 disc and the charge us half price for the extra use

£45+£22.50+£22.50=£90
or how we do it now
£45+45+45=£135
so the new way makes it cheaper if you buy the same game as your friend at the same time

#191 to #26 - anon id: d12b173f

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(05/23/2013)[-]

SO like a computer.

#44 to #26 - thedarkestrogue

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(05/22/2013)[-]

they said the fee would be very close to the full price of the game, so why would we want to pay the full price of the game twice if we buy it from gamestop used?

#61 to #44 - thedarkestrogue

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(05/22/2013)[-]

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my source for anyone thumbing down for not believing.

#82 to #61 - Crusader

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(05/22/2013)[-]

Major Nelson said that they aren't sure how it will be implemented.

#86 to #82 - thedarkestrogue

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(05/22/2013)[-]

yeah paying the full price twice is rediculous i'm sure it wont be exactly whats being reported. microsoft support was reported as saying the fee was false and that there was no extra charge for used games.

#52 to #44 - inthedroghouse

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(05/22/2013)[-]

source i was under the impression they said "small fee"

#60 to #52 - thedarkestrogue

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(05/22/2013)[-]

here it is: They would be paying the same price we paid, or less?" we asked.

"Let’s assume it’s a new game, so the answer is yes, it will be the same price," Harrison said.

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(05/22/2013)[-]

straight from an interview with Kotaku, let me get the link from my facebook

#42 to #26 - mattkingg**User deleted account**

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(05/22/2013)[-]

No.. no... no... no

it does accept pre-owned games

#141 to #42 - realitysabitch

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(05/22/2013)[-]

Yeah.... the Microsoft Corporate Vice President says otherwise:
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#140 to #42 - moviefuckthewhat

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(05/22/2013)[-]

I think they're just saying that last minute after seeing the mob forming outside their doors.

Still good news though.

#109 to #42 - falonso

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(05/22/2013)[-]

You do know that's a fake account, right?

#65 to #42 - thedarkestrogue

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(05/22/2013)[-]

if thats true then they really need to clear this up with the media. That is one of the BIGGEST issues with the console right now.

#37 to #26 - jjholt

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(05/22/2013)[-]

And what if you buy a used game from a shop for 45 and have to pay another 45 to install it just because you weren't the first?

#40 to #37 - inthedroghouse

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(05/22/2013)[-]

Why are you paying 45 for a used game

#84 to #40 - Crusader

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(05/22/2013)[-]

There were copies of Skyrim going for $50 a year after release because some games have superlong life cycles.

#30 to #26 - bowmasta

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(05/22/2013)[-]

What if it works the same as the current Xbox where you still need the disc even though you've downloaded it?

I haven't seen the conference so maybe they went over that but it sounds like a load of garbage from what everyone is saying.

#29 to #26 - Johnythehobo

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(05/22/2013)[-]

but, it still probably requires the disc in the drive to play.

#31 to #29 - jordieb

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(05/22/2013)[-]

no it doesn't that the point in the fee so people don't just pass around the disc and everyone get the game for free that's why we are getting 500gb of memory because you have to download it .

#33 to #31 - sonicg

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(05/22/2013)[-]

First. Why make it to where you have to install the game anyway? Second. 500gb isn't that much if you play a lot of games. It'll take upwards of 10gb per game just for installation, not including game-play data. So that'll limit you to about 50 games.

#56 to #33 - angreif

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(05/22/2013)[-]

odds are it'll have cloud capabilities too, so you can play it off that as well. you could, like, switch between what's downloaded and what's on the cloud.
that's a good enough idea that they probably wouldn't do it.

#80 to #56 - Fgner

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(05/22/2013)[-]

You can't use the cloud to store the game files. Why? Because a game is 10gb. First, do you know what kind of bandwidth it would take if you had to stream all that data? And do you know the latency people would get? Second, there's only 8GB of RAM. If you've used 500GB for storing games, then you have no SWAP space or anything either. Therefore not enough space exists to temporarily store the data. And even if you fit the game there or into SWAP space, what memory would the game then have?

#89 to #80 - angreif

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(05/22/2013)[-]

not a perfect system, but just an idea.

#87 to #80 - angreif

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(05/22/2013)[-]

i'm not talking about playing it off of the cloud. i'm talking about uploading the games on there, and downloading them when you wanna switch games. essentially you'd have your most played games saved locally, and the rest on cloud. you'd delete your local save on one, and bring up the new one. then if you wanna play agame again, then a few hours before, you say "hey, i wanna play that later" swap it out for another game, etc.

#67 to #56 - crazyhindu

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(05/22/2013)[-]

Which would be dumb because you would then need to connect online to play single player games.

#68 to #67 - angreif

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(05/22/2013)[-]

you already do... it can't play unless you have an internet connection... that's why it's called an "always on" console

#69 to #68 - crazyhindu

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(05/22/2013)[-]

Exactly my point the system as a whole is flawed with the Always on bs people with no internet or low bandwith or don't live in cities or even run out of live and can't afford to buy some for a while are ******.

#178 to #69 - tehpwnz

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(05/23/2013)[-]

who the **** can afford the new xbox but can't afford internet?
and regardless-"For certain activities, such as single-player gaming, and watching Blu-ray movies and live TV, the Xbox One does not need to be connected to the internet. However, the Xbox One does require an internet connection for several of its new features, plus any downloads and updates that occur behind the scenes."

#181 to #178 - crazyhindu

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(05/23/2013)[-]

Did you just say it doesn't need internet to watch tv off of it?

#185 to #181 - tehpwnz

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(05/23/2013)[-]

yes i did, cable and internet are two comepletely different connections.

#201 to #185 - crazyhindu

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(05/23/2013)[-]

Oh wait you can connect your cable connections to it?

#202 to #201 - tehpwnz

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(05/23/2013)[-]

i assume so, if they are saying you dont need internet, though i dont really see the point to that as you would already have to have cable so the xbox isnt really doing anything for you

#203 to #202 - crazyhindu

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(05/23/2013)[-]

I guess it saves from having to change the connections or god forbid picking up the remote and pressing the input button.

#206 to #203 - tehpwnz

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(05/23/2013)[-]

THE HORROR!

#207 to #206 - crazyhindu

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(05/23/2013)[-]

#180 to #178 - crazyhindu

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(05/23/2013)[-]

Well I own an xbox and i had it before i got a connection to internet, I'm poor sue me, What about people who can't get internet in their area? They could get it as a gift from someone or maybe something happened at their house and they need to cut expenses and they have to get rid of the internet?

#184 to #180 - tehpwnz

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(05/23/2013)[-]

if you are cutting expenses you probably are not buying an xbox which will be like six or seven hundred dollars on release. most people would put having the internet as a higher priority than having an xbox.

#200 to #184 - crazyhindu

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(05/23/2013)[-]

Did you not hear me say that maybe they received it as a gift?

#70 to #69 - angreif

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(05/22/2013)[-]

live has nothing to do with it. xbox live silver is free. it just determines wether you can play with friends online. and, while yes, it does suck, i'm just pointing out why my idea works, not the system as a whole.

#71 to #70 - crazyhindu

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(05/22/2013)[-]

Besides live what about people who don't have internet or have extremely slow speed? or if they just do not want to take up all the bandwith because someone else wants to use the internet. but yes you do have a point/

#76 to #71 - angreif

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(05/22/2013)[-]

as i said, yes, the always on sucks, and they'll have to reconcile a few points on it if they wanna sell more copies. but, that is the point of late development, and talking about their prototype, they get a chance to listen to complaints, and figure out how they'll sell the most copies. they're a corporation, and they want to make money, and with the amount of complaints there are on the always on feature, if they didn't make a change, they'd have to be total retards.

also, it wouldn't necessarily take up that much bandwidth. it could just be connected to the internet so it can download updates when they happen, without taking up too much of your time. i mean, i can't tell you how many times i've wanted to break my xbox because it's decided to take an hour to download an update.

also, i just realised that your profile pic is fluttershy. originally i thought it was a ninja for some reason.

#79 to #76 - crazyhindu

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(05/22/2013)[-]

HAHA yeah i guess it could be mistaken for a ninja. but yeah hopefully they do realize the stupidity of always on, i may purchase one awhile from now after a price drop.

#81 to #79 - angreif

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(05/22/2013)[-]

oh yeah. and hey, what do you know about the tv ****? does it have to have a cable connection, or is it off of wifi?

#85 to #81 - crazyhindu

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(05/22/2013)[-]

Off of wifi.

#83 to #81 - crazyhindu

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(05/22/2013)[-]

I think its a tv subscription you can activate kind of like well no exactly like netflix except i think its (Don't quote me) live tv or just like apple tv.

#88 to #83 - angreif

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(05/22/2013)[-]

sick, i'm gonna be losing my tv connection soon, so that'd actually be pretty ******* nice

#91 to #88 - crazyhindu

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(05/22/2013)[-]

Yeah that honestly isn't that bad, the only problem I have is no backwards compatibility and the always on. other than that the system is pretty nice.

#92 to #91 - angreif

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(05/22/2013)[-]

yeah. the backwards compatibility bit is rather ********. that's always irritated me.

#93 to #92 - crazyhindu

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(05/22/2013)[-]

I guess it makes sense because of the processor they chose for the one though.

#94 to #93 - angreif

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(05/22/2013)[-]

i don't know that much about that processor stuff, short explanation?

#97 to #94 - angreif

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(05/22/2013)[-]

ok, still understand just about as much in general, but this specific case makes more sense.

#106 to #97 - crazyhindu

(05/22/2013)[-]

Ha oh well all it means is that the new processor can't run the old program

#95 to #94 - crazyhindu

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(05/22/2013)[-]

. Games designed for the Xbox 360's Xenon processor simply won't run natively on the new hardware, since the xbox one uses an x86
The system is based on a different core architecture, so back-compat doesn't really work from that perspective

#110 to #95 - anon id: aacd59c2

(05/22/2013)[-]

Btw the Xbox One doesn't require an always on connection but so far they have said that you will need to connect it to the internet once a day or something so it can be updated and such but it is not 100% confirmed.

#107 to #95 - angreif

(05/22/2013)[-]

makes sense. also, i believe that it's time to stop talking no that the purple lines have gotten so plentiful

#104 to #95 - angreif

(05/22/2013)[-]

ok, still understand just about as much in general, but this specific case makes more sense.

i just determined that i'm an idiot by replying to myself

#39 to #33 - jordieb

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(05/22/2013)[-]

I'm not saying what they're doing is right all I'm saying that doing this isn't all bad and we should look at some of the positives

#32 to #31 - Johnythehobo

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(05/22/2013)[-]

Hm, skeptical, but, i guess well find out. i just dont think microsoft would give us a chance to cut into their profits.

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