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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#2 - minutes
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Welcome to reality, where the smartest people are the saddest and the dumbasses are happy.
Welcome to reality, where the smartest people are the saddest and the dumbasses are happy.
#9 to #2 - anon id: e0c1ee39
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It seems the often over used and very frequently proven to be true colloquial phrase, "Ignorance is bliss." is applicable towards this situation.
#77 to #2 - anon id: 5e0f3a17
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i'm a certified genius with 148 iq but i'm the happiest person i've ever met. honestly just being nice and smiling a lot makes a huge difference
User avatar #175 to #77 - Cleavland Steamer
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haha i bet that score from some ******** iq test you found online looks great on your resume
#108 to #77 - anon id: 5a4cff5f
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You're also a certified faggot.
User avatar #206 to #77 - cycloneclone
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"i'm the happiest person i've met,"
Try harder troll.
#186 to #2 - anon id: d0a1366a
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This is too true.

The depression is wretched. As with the ADHD.
#370 to #2 - anon id: cf49b768
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I'd like to think that I have the same mentality of an intelligent, depressed person. But I focus of the better things than the ****** things. i.e. Cars. Do you even understand how complex and complicated those ******* are? The first car on Earth was complicated enough and in a hundred years, the human race has designed such an amazing invention that is capable of traveling across the country.

I just take the time to realize how far we've come as a species. Either that or I'm stupid as ****.
User avatar #414 to #370 - hargleblarg
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In 100 years we've gone from discovering powered flight to making it into space and back. The first ever aircraft compared to the military jets we use today, or even a commercial airliner, is unbelievable.
#70 to #2 - rakoom
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Lest you're imaginative and create your own reality to help you beside your present one.
#72 to #2 - richardfitzwell
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Glad I'm not too bright.
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User avatar #428 to #418 - ost
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With intelligence comes solitude and with solitude you often get immersed in existential questions. that is what i am experiencing...
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User avatar #434 to #433 - ost
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Finding no answers to your questions is what makes you depressed. That is why existential questions are so depressing, because they are so impossibly difficult to answer.
#421 to #418 - minutes
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I don't even think this really applies to me. I am not dumb but not really smart either, i am average. The fact that i am not happy has nothing to do with my intelligence, i said that because i noticed that almost every smart person, on the internet or in real life, is depressed, unhappy or even suicidal.
I don't even think this really applies to me. I am not dumb but not really smart either, i am average. The fact that i am not happy has nothing to do with my intelligence, i said that because i noticed that almost every smart person, on the internet or in real life, is depressed, unhappy or even suicidal.
User avatar #373 to #2 - nervaaurelius
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I tend to think this time to time but I notice this tends to be an excuse for pseudo intellectuals to make themselves feel better about being whiny all the time.
User avatar #404 to #373 - tylerthemaddog
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The real truth
#284 to #2 - SILENCEnight
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**SILENCEnight rolled a random image posted in comment #1 at Notch Tries Omegle ** Faith in our current social system...............
#424 to #284 - minutes
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reminds me of something, i am permanently banned on 4chan for being a 'pedophile' since yesterday but the ban says i am banned since 2010. I didn't even know about 4chan back then. Also i never even clicked on CP threads etc. Any idea what to do?
#128 to #2 - powellrebecca
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#189 to #2 - rhinozeroz
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Well, not if someone is too stupid.
Well, not if someone is too stupid.
#180 to #2 - moxmortuus
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Lately I've just been thinking about how awesome it is to be lucky to be alive and other sappy ****, it helps.
Lately I've just been thinking about how awesome it is to be lucky to be alive and other sappy ****, it helps.

#385 to #180 - swagbot
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I'd argue that that - being positive about just being alive - is actually a more honest way to think.

Just had a huge discussion about this today:
- Why do people insist on trying to find a 'purpose' for their being?
- When humans were more primitive creatures, our Purpose (in a literal sense, not some mushy philosophical sense) was to do the things we needed to in order to survive and propagate. Without that, we wouldn't even exist, so that is our most fundamental 'need'.

The revelation that I had (again) today is this: It's inappropriate to think of Life as 'having a purpose' now that we are creatures able to observe the fact of our own existence and choose another fundamental goal for our existence.

That is to say - A Purpose is A Goal, and now that we are HERE, our goals (aka our 'Purpose' can be whatever the **** we want it to be).

...Want? Did i just say "What we want it to be"? You're Damn right I did! Why? Because now, with brains that can come up with arbitrary goals, we can even have a concept of 'Want', whereas when our brains were less sophisticated, out thoughts weren't complex enough to even be considered a 'Want' - back then, we only had 'Needs' (...to survive and reproduce)

tlr Trying to say stuff has a 'purpose' is ******** - purpose is an arbitrary thing. Now that we're aware of ourselves, we can make our own "purpose".
#420 to #385 - moxmortuus
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Pretty cool information, but probably one of the hardest parts of picking a purpose is the choices.
Pretty cool information, but probably one of the hardest parts of picking a purpose is the choices.
#447 to #420 - swagbot
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That's what's so cool about it.

We can choose any ******* thing we want! Spending Eternity alternating between solving interesting survival problems, exploring things that we simply enjoy, and continuing to try to find 'That Purpose'. That's the Greatest Journey (inb4 Halo reference)

It makes me sad that people can't see that.

It's like... an instant cure for everything wrong in the world... and people just miss it!
#52 to #2 - localcatbarber
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Or maybe just happy.
#142 to #52 - aiming
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just what i was thinking... have a thumb
User avatar #85 to #2 - EdwardNigma
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I always figured the more clever you are, the more you notice flaws in things, the more you notice how everything amounts to nothing. It seems the intelligent are more aware of mortality than the rest, while stupid people get piss drunk and think nothing of consequence, the clever and bright always see consequences.

At least, this is how it is for me. I stop myself doing things because I find flaws, I stop myself because I see consequences or realise I can't do it and I never try. All my cleverness and wit amounts to nothing, basically.
User avatar #430 to #85 - nicoquitemad
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But even when things have flaws, are imperfect, or have consequences, it's up to you as the smarter person to weigh the consequences, steer your way around the flaws, act things out under better conditions, or even come up with something better. All it takes is experimentation, use some scientific principles, fail and take the consequences until you achieve that something better.

Or just like play clever games with clever people, that's fun too.
#425 to #85 - daftiduck
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This sums me up perfectly.
User avatar #440 to #2 - cabbagemayhem
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I'm so ronery...so ronery...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEaKX9YYHiQ
#400 to #2 - Jameshaich
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People use that quote to make themselves feel smart ro make up for how 'sad' they are.   
Intelligence doesn't determine how smart/sad people are. If you're implying the only happy people are dumbasses then i feel incredibly sorry for you.
People use that quote to make themselves feel smart ro make up for how 'sad' they are.
Intelligence doesn't determine how smart/sad people are. If you're implying the only happy people are dumbasses then i feel incredibly sorry for you.


User avatar #417 to #400 - enorus
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There are reasons to believe that more intelligent people have a higher chance of being depressed or "sad". No one says or have ever said that dumb = happy and stupid = sad. Are you complaining just to be a bitch or what are you trying to do?
User avatar #426 to #417 - Jameshaich
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'Where the smartest people are the saddest and the dumbasses are happy.'
It never said depressed first off.
"Smart people are the saddest" - Smart = Sad
"Dumbasses are hppy" - Stupid = Happy
Clearly if you're smart, you can't be happy.
And if you're dumb, you can't be sad.
It never said Smarter people have a higher chance of being sad. It blunty said the smartest people are the saddest.
#432 to #426 - nicoquitemad
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It is more like the answer or summary of a statistic in which the smartest people are more likely to be unhappy than the less smart ones. It doesn't mean smart people can't be happy or that "dumbasses" can't be sad or even chronically depressed.    
   
My personal opinion is that even more so as smart you get the choise to have a positive outlook on everything. It doesn't mean happyness or sadness, even less so the more intelligent you get, but it still does make things look better.
It is more like the answer or summary of a statistic in which the smartest people are more likely to be unhappy than the less smart ones. It doesn't mean smart people can't be happy or that "dumbasses" can't be sad or even chronically depressed.

My personal opinion is that even more so as smart you get the choise to have a positive outlook on everything. It doesn't mean happyness or sadness, even less so the more intelligent you get, but it still does make things look better.
#208 to #2 - bariummanisback
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This is the saddest and truest thing I have ever heard
This is the saddest and truest thing I have ever heard
#172 to #2 - dandlelion
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Today a-lot of people lives lack meaning because they've lost all belief in God, and if you can't believe in God then there is no plan, no set purpose to anything. Life is empty random events in which your suffering and actions seem meaningless in the flow of time. This is the curse of our modern age "Nihilism". The belief in nothing. This is the cancer of Western Civilization. There is a solution through.
User avatar #188 to #172 - mmajunkie
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Don't be a moron
#309 to #188 - anon id: c803b955
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The way I interpreted that was some people are able to find purpose in their lives through religious beliefs. To each his own I suppose.
#248 to #188 - cabbagemayhem
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I've seen all this before. Self-proclaimed intellectuals that are empty inside call Christians stupid regardless of their education just as it was prophesied. All the while unaware of why they feel empty. Maybe it's because they are smart...or maybe, just maybe, it's because they weren't smart enough.
#372 to #248 - whargarbler
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He called him a moron for equating atheism with nihilism, which is indeed moronic. Dandlelion thinks that everyone who doesn't believe in his god believes in "nothing" which is a moronic claim that has been refuted countless times by countless people. Mmajunkie wasn't talking about Christians, he was talking about one moron. Get over your ridiculous persecution complex. Christians are the largest religious group in the world, by far.

And every religious group, literally every single one, has been persecuted and called "stupid". That's not a very impressive prophecy.
#429 to #372 - cabbagemayhem
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One, I wasn't talking to just him. I was talking to everyone, including you. Two, don't assume what dandlelion means beyond what he said. Three, look up the word nihilism and then ask yourself why you make such poor choices in reaction images. Four, learn to comprehend jokes. Five.....why are you not in the kitchen?
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I fully appreciate religion for what it is supposed to be, not what it's become...but to associate intelligence with religion is awfully foolish. For starters, if you even get into beginner science, you start to realize religion was a pseudo-answer for unknown wonders of yesteryear. It's not a coincidence that the smartest people on earth have lost any association with modern religion; because it's obviously a foolish tale passed down through the ages. The message is good, yes; but it's just a fairytale.
User avatar #437 to #435 - cabbagemayhem
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I can relate with your concerns about what it has become. I'm not associating intelligence with belief systems here, but I will point out that simple sciences such as Newtonian physics have long been known for devaluing people's faith in the spiritual, but it's still only a small part of the picture. Overall, your statement about the smartest people on Earth losing association with religion isn't exactly true. What you're seeing is people in all demographics losing association with religion, thus /thread/. "It's just a fairytale" is what non-believers have been saying for thousands of years.
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My sole problem with any religion, is that it presents the one 'true' answer; which is PREPOSTEROUS!! The idea that any person has all the answers makes me laugh so hard it's ridiculous. No one can know the truth, as what was once considered magic and witchcraft is now known as 'science'... The further we evolve our minds, the closer we get to the truth. The closer we get to the truth, the less religion makes sense.
#448 to #445 - cabbagemayhem
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The idea that any person has all the answers makes you laugh 'ridiculously' hard, and you don't like how religion offers a "true" answer, but you seek the truth by "evolving your mind." Interesting. Religion making less sense the closer you get to the truth is an illusion. You naturally confuse becoming ingrained in a new culture with acquiring superior knowledge. While it's always enlightening, as you'll find out, it's not always superior. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a check to write myself for like a whole ******** of truth.
User avatar #452 to #448 - mmajunkie
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You make very little sense, but I already knew that based on your previous replies. You misconstrue my points, and make a mess of simple logic. good day sir/madam.
User avatar #456 to #452 - cabbagemayhem
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I understand what you're trying to say, but you don't seem to understand that it's crazy. My comments are written to address what you literally said. If the conversation didn't go where you expected, then you need to rephrase yourself.
And, don't say the word logic to me after forming such ill-conceived arguments. Bring me the person who taught them to you, so that I may educate them.
User avatar #458 to #456 - mmajunkie
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You used the word 'prophesied'... you don't even HAVE a point. The problem with my logic, is that it eludes simple-minded people like yourself.
#459 to #458 - cabbagemayhem
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Here are some of your arguments:
1. religion is stupid "to associate intelligence with religion is awfully foolish"
2. religion is not what you think it is, it's what i think it is "religion was a pseudo-answer for unknown wonders of yesteryear"
3. religion isn't real "it's obviously a foolish tale"
4. i don't like how religion gives you a single answer "My sole problem with any religion, is that it presents the one 'true' answer; which is PREPOSTEROUS!!"
5. The truth is unobtainable because science discovers things "No one can know the truth, as what was once considered magic and witchcraft is now known as 'science'"
6. When we learn things, we learn things "The further we evolve our minds, the closer we get to the truth."
Please, tell me again how your logic eludes my simple-mind. You haven't made any real arguments, and you want to brush off what I said because I used a word you don't like. You also keep throwing around the word logic, but it doesn't sound like you've ever studied it. You've been saying rude and disgusting things about religion based on unfounded opinions, you butchered this potentially sweet thread, and you've been an asshole to me. Please, leave.
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You had to delete and redo your comment over and over because you rebuild your entire reality that quickly. Again, just because you can't grasp my point doesn't make it lacking substance. Religion provides the almighty answer for the question that we USED to lack knowledge for. We now have much more finite answers for said question; making religion obsolete. Putz
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I had to delete my comment because the formatting was wrong.
User avatar #462 to #461 - mmajunkie
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you're still a putz
User avatar #464 to #462 - cabbagemayhem
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I just remembered that this thread started in a way potentially insulting to atheists, even though I was in character, so sorry and no hard feelings. See you around.
User avatar #463 to #462 - cabbagemayhem
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I know what you're saying. I used to think that was the basis of religion, too, but there's much more to it.
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Being free of religion allows a much deeper association with my fellow man. Allowing a more fully-aware understanding of how I interact with my environment came to me once I became aware of how clouded my judgement was as a Christian. Once I let go of the silliness, I became a far better human being. You putz
#386 to #172 - lolibear
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Why does everyone think life has to have meaning? To what use is that? Life happened by the systematic randomness of the universe, and isn't that amazing?! That our universe's laws encouraged the likelihood of stray amounts of life in the universe to ponder it's own existence? Isn't our existence only more validated by the fact that it wasn't planned, but that it came from entropy and chaos?
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#441 to #423 - lolibear
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"Systematic Randomness" "Encouraged the likelihood" I was stating that I found it amazing that the laws of the universe actually made life a pretty likely possibility in parts of the universe. Randomness is not the same thing as unpredictability.
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Life is a blank canvas that can be painted on and is judged by multiple perceptions
User avatar #272 to #172 - garentei
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AAAaaand this is what we're talking about.
#88 to #2 - swagbot
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Oh... cry, cry little man.   
   
You know, we could change that if we wanted. Indeed, many good people are working on changing that right now...
Oh... cry, cry little man.

You know, we could change that if we wanted. Indeed, many good people are working on changing that right now...
User avatar #11 to #2 - asasqw
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"If you seek wisdom look no further than this.
Knowledge may be power.
But Ignorance is still bliss." - Unknown
#100 to #11 - lucianakira
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I like this quote. Thank you for this.
I like this quote. Thank you for this.
User avatar #462 to #11 - asasqw
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No one is going to see this but I wrote that quote ans was just too afraid that people weren't gonna like it
#411 to #11 - lamadrama
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"If you seek wisdom look no further than this.
Knowledge may be power.
But Ignorance is still bliss." - Lil B

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#40 - slashendrix
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"These Snozzberries taste like Snozzberries.
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Did you know that Snozzberry actually means penis? Seriously look it up, Rhold Dahl used it in an adult novel he wrote.
#43 to #40 - slashendrix
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sorry for no quotation marks at the end of the phrase
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It's okay. We'll forgive you. Once.
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User avatar #1 - konradkurze
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yeah reality sucks bigtime, but its better than ignorance
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"There is only one good, knowledge, and one evil, ignorance." -Socrates
User avatar #354 to #1 - CRosBY
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Why?
User avatar #397 to #354 - konradkurze
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so you prefer blissful ignorance?
User avatar #442 to #397 - CRosBY
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Well I wouldn't want be anyone but myself, but but who's to say what constitutes ignorance anyway?
User avatar #444 to #442 - konradkurze
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well one simple act of ignorance are all the people who support all USA's wars on everything
User avatar #21 to #1 - stijnverheye
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no , deeply i wish i am a simple human and not caring about future moments , so i just not overthink any **** and live in an illusion
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#6 to #1 - killerdeath
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Ignorance is bliss. Don't wreck it for those who have it. Just let them live in their happy world, with their happy thoughts.
#427 to #6 - pandasmayn
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Honestly, I'm not 'ignorant'. I'm very self-aware of all the **** in the world, but I choose not to be a sad little bitch about it like some people. There's no point to, so I live happy regardless.


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I'd rather be awake and miserable, but with knowledge of the world, than be sleeping and blissful, ignorant and foolish.
#8 - vegetatheprince
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I don't need books to tell me that the World is a hopeless, desolate, **** hole. They just explain it in detail.
User avatar #60 to #8 - poniesareghey
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well put
#90 to #8 - mangusta
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Well put i don't need to read stories and examples to know what you said...
I just need to open my eyes and take a look around.
#288 to #8 - boydaranga
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I think of the Picture saying that books are escapism from the real world. They don't remind you that it's a **** hole, they help you forget that it is.
User avatar #129 to #8 - falconxmard
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You can't exactly say that. You have nothing else to compare the world to.
User avatar #401 to #129 - Jameshaich
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Movies? Comics? Stories on the internet? Games? Discussions?
User avatar #131 to #8 - partnerintroll
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then don't read. ****. I'm sorry I even asked you to my book club
#86 - tacogrenade
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**tacogrenade rolled a random image posted in comment #63 at bus ** MFW I Dont read books..
User avatar #117 to #86 - arizonastar
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Nice roll
User avatar #96 to #86 - thelegitsuperfurry
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Like many words of wisdom, this isn't to be taken literally; The more you know about things that happen, the less you like things that happen.
#7 - canadianguyeh
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#41 - heroicpenguin
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ignorance is bliss
ignorance is bliss
#269 to #41 - anon id: 65253909
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Yeah but knowledge is power !
#73 to #41 - djequalizee
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But knowledge is power!
User avatar #44 to #41 - neocortex
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That sentence makes me remember The Matrix every ******* time ^^
User avatar #48 to #44 - stallwallwriter
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It makes me think of the song "Ignorance is Bliss" as sung by Bowser.
So... it's a bit more lighthearted than the matrix.
User avatar #49 to #48 - neocortex
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Hmmm gonna check it out now, thx
User avatar #47 to #44 - heroicpenguin
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Yer I know would you take the red pill or the blue? Who really wins.
User avatar #148 - frienderman
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But if you read even more books, you can climb over the wall and begin to fix the messed up world.
#149 to #148 - moocowsz
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#150 to #149 - frienderman
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But... But science...
#151 to #150 - moocowsz
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If you want me to study, how will i have time to clean up the wasteland?
If you want me to study, how will i have time to clean up the wasteland?
#153 to #151 - frienderman
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If you don't study, how can you climb over the wall?
#155 to #153 - moocowsz
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But if i study, I cannot do anything with the aforementioned wall as i will be too preoccupied studying, good sir.
#158 to #155 - frienderman
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Study to get over the wall, then use what you've studied.
#163 to #158 - kaycie
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mfw this thread
#162 to #158 - moocowsz
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if the amount of books i have read signifies how many books are under my feet, would leaping over the wall, and removing the books from under my feet, signify the act of unlearning them? And if that isn't the case, why cant i just take books and place them under my feet without reading them first.
if the amount of books i have read signifies how many books are under my feet, would leaping over the wall, and removing the books from under my feet, signify the act of unlearning them? And if that isn't the case, why cant i just take books and place them under my feet without reading them first.
User avatar #167 to #162 - frienderman
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The books are a metaphor for learning, and the wall ignorance. Once you've learned enough, you can move beyond ignorance and begin to deal with the real problems. Moving beyond doesn't mean that you unlearn them, it just means that they've helped you see.
#173 to #167 - moocowsz
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If the books then in this metaphor are only for overcoming the obstacle of ignorance and provide an entranceway into the wasteland, yet no purpose beyond that, what would be the point of reading then if its just going to drop you off into an abyss.
User avatar #174 to #173 - frienderman
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So that you can fix the rest of the world and help others over the wall of ignorance. I think you're taking this metaphor a bit far, mate.
#179 to #174 - moocowsz
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im just counter-proving the things you believe this metaphor relays.

Besides the fact, if you're in an area where you are enclosed off to the point where there is an impassable wall unless you were to use books and nothing else, dropping you into a wasteland, Anybody else there can just use the books aswell, if not have access to them.

also this image can easily suggest some other meanings as that any old books can lead you over the wall, or that the types of books you read can twist around your sense of reality, on more than just on the intelligence plane
User avatar #182 to #179 - frienderman
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Yes, anyone else can use the books. Just as anyone can use knowledge gained by others to overcome ignorance. I didn't go to the Galapagos and discover evolution myself, I read about it from what someone else learned.
#184 to #182 - moocowsz
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i meant use as in a stairway, since its right there next to them, if someone can have access to the books to hop the wall, its definitely within everyone else's reach who resides there
User avatar #187 to #184 - frienderman
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It's a stack, not a staircase. Anyway, I think we're taking this a bit too far, hm? My point was that if you wanted to, you could interpret this cartoon as meaning that with some knowledge, you can see how messed up things are, and that with even more you can fix some of the messed up stuff.
#190 to #187 - moocowsz
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Alrighty then, while i have a different view of this comic than you do, i can understand your reasoning for it and respect that as a fellow individual, good day sir
#197 to #190 - frienderman
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And a fair day unto you as well.
And a fair day unto you as well.
#391 to #148 - anon id: c396cb45
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it doesn't matter if you read enough books. if you try to change the system everyone will go against you. the media, the government. everything is set up so the people hear what those in power want to hear.
#46 - stallwallwriter
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I actually had to come on Funnyjunk to distract myself because I'm making my way through War & Peace and it was making me cry.

But the thing is, even though it made me sad, even though it made me think about death and injustice, it was beautiful. Really beautiful. And I guess, well, maybe happiness isn't the most important thing. I can give some of that up, if I feel like I've seen more because of it.
#217 to #46 - anon id: b933ee9c
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try les miserables! I had the same reaction to les mis. I am just about to start war & peace myself.
User avatar #228 to #217 - stallwallwriter
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I want to read Les Mis in French, only I'm told it's so long I'm a bit daunted. I've been on War & Peace for months now.