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User avatar #6 - drl (05/19/2013) [-]
Ok lets see the radio interview i posted on comment number 2 said average tips per day where around $200.00
which makes sense when you think about the crowd that go to a high end cafe
and the fact that the owners where mean to the workers in front of customers
making them feel bad and tip more
so lets just say 200
that means that the girl they fired in the radio interview got jipped out of $6000 dollars because she worked there a month
and the girl they fired on the show worked there for 3 months that means it was a average of 18 thousand
but let us look at it in a different way if she was lying to the radio host and only got 50 a day in tips then that means 1500 a month and 4500 for the girl she fired on the show
and the fact that legally this is considered theft according to the worker rights act of 1973 and the Tax Reform Act of 1986 meaning legally they openly admitted to stealing $6000 and any theft in Arizona over 2000 is considered grand theft which is punishable up to but no more then 14 years
#175 to #6 - Womens Study Major (05/20/2013) [-]
you know i had a long discussion about such topics back when a waitress was fired for doing some such thing because a guy tipped poorly and found out that it's actually based on state as to whether tips can be counted as supplemental income or not. depending on the state, such as California for instance, tips are not allowed as supplemental income for waiters/waitresses and therefore they earn a standard wage that falls under requirements for minimum wage any tips they earn is just bonus. granted i haven't looked into the legality of taking tips from servers in states that don't allow supplemental incomes and i can't remember the irs website that had a wonderful list of which states were and weren't but if Arizona doesn't allow waiters to be funded based off tips then i have no remorse because that means they jut earn a regular wage instead of trying to live off tips alone based on how many tips are given per hour.
#176 to #175 - Womens Study Major (05/20/2013) [-]
sorry it wasn't the IRS website, it was the department of labor.
#180 to #176 - Womens Study Major (05/20/2013) [-]
okay so I'm back and I've done a bit of research. there are 2 ways i could see them getting the money the first being that in the episode the guy said he also waited on tables which would mean any tips on tables he served would legally be his property (same for tables she served) this may change if they do a pool tipping thing where all tips are split among those who might regularly receive tips (bus boys, waiters, etc) and excludes those who don't (cooks, etc) and is split from there. the second way is through supplemental income. Arizona state law dictates that a maximum of $3.00 in tips may be used towards supplemental income while maintaining a minimum wage of $7.80 that meaning they only legally have to pay her $4.80 an hour while the any tips earned counts towards the state minimum. they wouldn't be able to take it all but they'd get $3/hr in tips. though if they just take all tips together that would indeed violate Arizona state law and FLSA.
User avatar #147 to #6 - toosexyforyou (05/20/2013) [-]
But you're forgetting that servers are paid less hourly because they get tips and if those tips equal out to being less than minimum wage, the employer is responsible for paying his employee the difference. Since the owner is paying them minimum wage, he should also be able to keep the tips for himself, right?
User avatar #152 to #147 - rainbowrush (05/20/2013) [-]
In what twisted world is that right?
User avatar #206 to #152 - toosexyforyou (05/20/2013) [-]
She's getting paid minimum wage to work a job that basically anyone could do because it doesn't require a degree? I don't see anything wrong with that.
User avatar #117 to #6 - bremen (05/20/2013) [-]
I can acknowledge the $200 tips a day. At the restaurant that I work at, the servers get that and over most nights. With a average of 100-150 on slow days.
#66 to #6 - furbag (05/20/2013) [-]
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User avatar #16 to #6 - theamazinganalidk (05/19/2013) [-]
I see what you're saying, but $200 a day is crazy. There's no way that only one waiter is given $200 in tips a day. I could believe $200 a day for all the waiters combined, but there's no way a waiter is gonna make 6 G's a month.
User avatar #84 to #16 - SheWolfie (05/20/2013) [-]
but on the show the waiter stated she was their only server... so $200 a day kind of makes sense when you think about it...
User avatar #23 to #16 - drl (05/19/2013) [-]
even if it was 20 bucks a day that means they stole 2400 from just the 2 workers
that and they said they went through over 100 workers through 1 year so lets say that the workers only got 20 a day in tips that means out of the 100 workers they openly admitted to stealing 7200 a year but lets look at it with 50 because 50 is the average tips earned a day ... but i do think it was more then tht because the owners yelled at them in front of customers which made them tip more so 50 a day that means 18,000 a year in stolen tips not a bad paycheck
#28 to #23 - Womens Study Major (05/20/2013) [-]
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