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#12 - anonymous (05/19/2013) [-]
Well, in the end, it really doesn't matter what people think of suicide.

The people who killed themselves don't have to deal with the backlash, they didn't really hold a gun to their heads and think "Everyone is going to get so butthurt/angry/sad about this," Because in the end, it's all about being you. It's you who decides whether to strive to live or die.

You can spend your entire life giving and giving, be it in music, entertainment, kindness, friendship, and when you decide that it's not worth it anymore, life will try to squeeze out the rest of what it feels you owe it out of your corpse. But that doesn't make any difference in the end, because you're gone.
#13 to #12 - nevrit (05/19/2013) [-]
True, however life will never have a chance of improving if you off yourself.  Despite the fact that you are gone, those that are left behind who actually gave a damn are the ones who pay.  The friends that picked you up when you fell, the family members who raised you and loved you, and all the rest who you impacted with your life.  If something in your life is shit, change it.  If you are known as a whore, go to a place where no one knows you.  If you have terrible family, leave them.  If you have no friends, either make some or go to a place where you can.  There is quite a degree of life that you can control, including the person who you are.  However, in the end it is you that decides the value of your existence.  Should you choose it means nothing, that is on you, no one else.  Life is beautiful.  Yea it can be hard as shit at times, but the plus sides outweigh the negatives.   
   
Bring the hate or red thumbs, I don't care.
True, however life will never have a chance of improving if you off yourself. Despite the fact that you are gone, those that are left behind who actually gave a damn are the ones who pay. The friends that picked you up when you fell, the family members who raised you and loved you, and all the rest who you impacted with your life. If something in your life is shit, change it. If you are known as a whore, go to a place where no one knows you. If you have terrible family, leave them. If you have no friends, either make some or go to a place where you can. There is quite a degree of life that you can control, including the person who you are. However, in the end it is you that decides the value of your existence. Should you choose it means nothing, that is on you, no one else. Life is beautiful. Yea it can be hard as shit at times, but the plus sides outweigh the negatives.

Bring the hate or red thumbs, I don't care.
#127 to #13 - pandasmayn (05/19/2013) [-]
Completely agree with you. I have a.. theory, and it works on me. I've gone into a mindset that any "first world problems", they don't matter and you shouldn't let them bring you down. eg; failed a class, your day hasn't been going -great-, your computer broke. You get me? Everytime something like that happens, I listen to, "Don't Worry, Be Happy" and it calms me down.. I dunno.

Pic is a fucking panda.
#135 to #127 - nevrit (05/19/2013) [-]
I wouldn't say that the problems of everyday life don't matter.  The thing is, it is ok to be upset, but you can't let it rule your life.  When someone dies, it is ok to mourn.  When something expensive breaks or you have trouble at work, it is ok to feel stressed.  Letting it rule ones life though, that is not ok.  There will always be a chance to make things better, but if you let the bad side of life rule you and you blind yourself to the good side of life then that is truly a shame.  Know what I mean?   
   
Pic is a surprise
I wouldn't say that the problems of everyday life don't matter. The thing is, it is ok to be upset, but you can't let it rule your life. When someone dies, it is ok to mourn. When something expensive breaks or you have trouble at work, it is ok to feel stressed. Letting it rule ones life though, that is not ok. There will always be a chance to make things better, but if you let the bad side of life rule you and you blind yourself to the good side of life then that is truly a shame. Know what I mean?

Pic is a surprise
#15 to #13 - anonymous (05/19/2013) [-]
God, I wish I could think like you.

Unfortunately suicide is mostly due to a disorder called Depression, it's a chemical imbalance that causes someone to experience sorrow, lack of motivation, and aversion to things that others can cope with. Depression can cause psychological disturbances, it can cultivate thought like "The world would be better off without me" and "I'm not worth anything". This is legitimately what most people who attempt suicide believe.

It's kind of nice to see someone with such a nice way of thinking, I hope that never changes about you
User avatar #37 to #15 - theghostrider (05/19/2013) [-]
As a depressed person myself, I can relate to everything you say.
User avatar #17 to #15 - nevrit (05/19/2013) [-]
Well in complete honesty I can speak like this because I have been there. I haven't attempted, but growing up I thought a lot about suicide. I had multiple friends threaten to commit suicide and some who still think about it to this day. I've been in a stage of depression for a very long period of time. The only advice I ever got was, get over it. I never was able to get past it until late junior year when I finally came out of my shell. There are certain things in life you can't control, and I can understand that. However there are many things that you can control. Say you keep ending up dating people who are always bad for you, well read the fucking signs. If they act like an ass to everyone but you, that probably isn't a good sign. If they have a history of being bad in relationships, and they haven't changed at all, that is a sign too. I get what it is like to be in a shitty home and have nowhere to go. I get what it is like to be ignored growing up except when it is time to get talked down on. I understand what it is like to not be respected, and have no self respect.

If you wanna fix your life, learn what the problem is. Seriously, sit down and think of what is wrong and why. Why do people say things, why do I feel this way? Then work towards a long term goal of self betterment. How can you ever expect to get respect if you never have any for yourself? The same goes for love. I'm not saying love yourself the most of everything, but give yourself some credit. If there is something you don't like, commit to fixing it. We live in a time where life expectancy is up and no one is holding a knife to your throat constantly.


1. Be humble, but confident in yourself.
2. Don't cut yourself short, but don't be selfish
3. If you make a mistake, learn everything you can about what went wrong so it doesn't happen again

So many factors to life and ones self, but they are so simple to understand. Not who you want to be? Be that person then
User avatar #28 to #17 - jrondeau **User deleted account** (05/19/2013) [-]
Any advice you could give to someone who's currently dealing with someone who doesn't appear to want any sort of help even though they've asked for it on multiple occasions? It seems that with some people, I can offer infinitely many solutions but none of them are ever doable or even attemptable by the person I'm working with.
User avatar #32 to #28 - nevrit (05/19/2013) [-]
PM me about the situation, it'll be easier that way
User avatar #27 to #17 - jrondeau **User deleted account** (05/19/2013) [-]
You and I appear to have the exact same thought process on this issue and I totally respect that.

I too was depressed and thought about suicide in high school for a long time. After a while though, I just took a "fuck it all attitude" and would wake up in the morning and tell myself that everyone around me could fuck off because I was gonna have a good day that day and I did. Once I realized that feeling sorry for myself was never going to solve anything, I found that I controlled my own happiness and that I need no one else to give me the sense of fulfillment that I get from hard work. Now I've come to adopt a viewpoint that no matter what anyone takes from you, only you can ever give away your dignity and self-respect to the shit world we live in.

Unfortunately, the "stop being a bitch and buck up" approach has left me with the idea that anyone can do this as well, so I just end up telling people like my currently depressed girlfriend that I can't help them as much as they'd like because I can't flip that switch inside their heads that will make them stop feeling sorry for themselves and take charge, which makes me come off as a dick sometimes.
#31 to #27 - nevrit (05/19/2013) [-]
I can understand that. Outside help isn't impossible, but the main key is pulling your self out of the hole. It doesn't matter who tries to pull you up or what they do, if you go limp in their arms you will always fall back down. Friends and loved ones can really make a difference, but in the end they have to find their own light.
#18 to #17 - anonymous (05/19/2013) [-]
Heh, should've known. It's the people who know what sadness is like who are able to truly experience happiness.

You sound like I did those two years I broke out of depression. It's so easy to forget who you are, and easy to give up on becoming that person again. It's so easy to get so lost that you don't hear anything until you realize you're the only one down there to make some noise.

I guess I'll just try to get through this time, and live for the future. Maybe I'll be able to think positively again soon... Thanks for showing me up
User avatar #29 to #18 - jrondeau **User deleted account** (05/19/2013) [-]
Good luck to you man, I hope you keep at it and can push through it.
#23 to #18 - nevrit (05/19/2013) [-]
Nothing that big happens over night, but everyone (that includes you) has it in them. Just work at it, and no matter how murky the waters are, just keep swimming.
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