Religion =/= Peace. .. Did someone say... heretic?
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#343 - theironfistofglory (05/19/2013) [-]
Did someone religion?
#328 - arrrbie (05/19/2013) [-]
hey whats going on in the.....comments...
hey whats going on in the.....comments...
#332 to #328 - SemiAnon (05/19/2013) [-]
Intellectual debate, of course!
#321 - goldfangz ONLINE (05/19/2013) [-]
User avatar #312 - thumbaccountlol (05/18/2013) [-]
To whom it may concern;

Islam is a religion of peace, so is Christianity, and so are all the other major religions. The few who use it for their own gain and warp peoples minds to turn them against their true beliefs are wrong. These few have caused the disasters we attribute to religions, the masses of these beliefs are not bad people, they are taught the way to act and most follow it.

TL;DR People are judged too harshly by what they believe as peoples views have been warped by the decisions of the few, do not judge someone by the belief, judge them by their actions.

Signed. A through and through Atheist.
#306 - napalmpie (05/18/2013) [-]
<- All those comments.   
Though, a mosh pit is funnier than a long, painful, chaotic and useless internet debate.
<- All those comments.
Though, a mosh pit is funnier than a long, painful, chaotic and useless internet debate.
#304 - phoenixtc (05/18/2013) [-]
Heretic you say?
Heretic you say?
User avatar #295 - allamericandude (05/18/2013) [-]
It's only very rarely that people actually go to war over their religion. The vast majority of wars are about land, resources, power, etc. Religion just colors the jerseys. Jews, Christians, and Muslims used to live perfectly well together--even in Palestine, of all places--because they realized that trading with each other was better than killing each other.

Trade is the world's greatest peacemaker.
#294 - unoriginalaccount (05/18/2013) [-]
So are we ignoring the fact that this guy is ******* immortal or what?
#331 to #294 - giustobuffo (05/19/2013) [-]
I know, bro. I was like "That's gotta be damn close to 2,000 years right there, and he just changes his outfit but won't age."
#277 - granadablashlack has deleted their comment [-]
#276 - confusedasian (05/18/2013) [-]
Religious battles are so entertaining though.
Religious battles are so entertaining though.
User avatar #274 - konradkurze ONLINE (05/18/2013) [-]
mainstream religions were created as an extension of the state
when it became clear that not all men would bow to man's laws, the powers that be created religion to make all fear the invisible power in the sky that no man could challenge, thus making people fear something they could not confront or control

the commandments and the bible as a whole are designed to enforce compliance and subservience to a faceless higher authority just as law and politics work

jesus was just as much a puppet voice as a king or president...either way speaking on behalf of the silent puppetmasters above them who make the rules
User avatar #325 to #274 - redblackstar (05/19/2013) [-]
I'm doing ancient history at college, it's actually quite scary to what extent the ancient empires controlled the state religions. Although both Persians and Romans were quite tolerant of their subject's religions they encouraged emperor worship and certain moral values through it. Religion was and is a simple form of propaganda, deal with it.
User avatar #327 to #325 - konradkurze ONLINE (05/19/2013) [-]
yes and propaganda is a tool of the state to influence and control people
User avatar #287 to #274 - foelkera (05/18/2013) [-]
Didn't the first mainstream religions start within the slave classes of gigantic empires though?
User avatar #289 to #287 - konradkurze ONLINE (05/18/2013) [-]
well thats just it, religion was designed to keep slaves compliant with their slavery, with an ideal of "life i **** but if you obey, you'll be rewarded in the afterlife" a fictional paradise for the dead to make up for hell on earth

just when the slaves became free and got better lives, they were so programmed into the religions, they took them with them and kept practising them with less need to

in the case of the jews, when they got freedom from egypt, they took the religion, and rewrote it into christianity to make themselves the masters and all faithful the slaves
pretty much making them as bad as their former masters
User avatar #293 to #289 - foelkera (05/18/2013) [-]
The monarchy in Egypt hated Judaism though.
#314 to #293 - anonymous (05/18/2013) [-]
Everyone everywhere hated judaism.
User avatar #311 to #293 - redblackstar (05/18/2013) [-]
Because they had their own state religion and Judaism was different, kinda like Windows and Linux
User avatar #309 to #293 - konradkurze ONLINE (05/18/2013) [-]
exactly, since the egyptians treated the jews so bad, when the jews got their chance they became the fascist overlords
#310 to #309 - foelkera (05/18/2013) [-]
Jews didn't come into power until 1948 tho
Jews didn't come into power until 1948 tho
User avatar #319 to #310 - konradkurze ONLINE (05/19/2013) [-]
no theyve always been in power, just they never came out into the open till 1948

how else did england just up and take 60% of palestine away from the palestinians and mark it as 'jews only' without any objections from the rest of the world
User avatar #323 to #319 - foelkera (05/19/2013) [-]
Say you buy a house. You then are kidnapped and forced to work in north africa for several years. One day you escape from captivity and spend a long trek heading home. You arrive on your doorstep and find the locks have been changed, and that muslims are in your house. You try to kick them out, but they only reluctantly agree to share it with you.

Then they try to ****** you because they don't want you in the house.
User avatar #339 to #323 - konradkurze ONLINE (05/19/2013) [-]
hmmmm compelling.....
makes me think of how the judeo-christians handled america

say you and your family own a big house, then someone from the next town over comes over, you open the door for him and welcome him in, he punches you in the face then while you reel back in surprise, he kills your family in front of you, you run and lock yourself in the attic, as you wait, the man sets up his family inside your home, after a time of starvation from lack of food and diseases from lack of hygiene, you finally come out of the attic, only for the man to punch you a few more times, as you beg for leniency, he says you can live in the closet as your specially reserved space

yep, the judeo christians sure were different to native americans than the egyptians were to jews

not all jews were slaves in egypt, they just like to falsify things to bring world pity on them, like the holocaust deaths were faked
User avatar #341 to #339 - foelkera (05/19/2013) [-]
Dammit I'm trying to have a serious debate here but I read judeo christians as judo christians and then imagined people coming to america and using judo on the natives
User avatar #273 - serotonin (05/18/2013) [-]
Catholicism =/= Christianity.
Eastern Orthodox never had crusades, witch hunts were almost unheared of and no Inqisition
User avatar #316 to #273 - redblackstar (05/18/2013) [-]
Umm how about pogroms?
User avatar #330 to #316 - serotonin (05/19/2013) [-]
hmmm you kind of make a point
User avatar #336 to #307 - serotonin (05/19/2013) [-]
I dont want to turn this in to ex yu ******** . Anyhow it had little to do with religion
User avatar #340 to #336 - alhemicar (05/19/2013) [-]
Are ******* kidding me?
The only reason was religion.
User avatar #355 to #340 - randomserb (05/19/2013) [-]
Religion was the mask, as it has always been.
User avatar #357 to #355 - alhemicar (05/19/2013) [-]
exactly, as it has always been
User avatar #349 to #340 - serotonin (05/19/2013) [-]
It was division brought by religion not religion it self.
User avatar #356 to #349 - alhemicar (05/19/2013) [-]
what it always is...
User avatar #361 to #356 - serotonin (05/19/2013) [-]
da batalimo Engleski. Tuzno je to sve sto se izdesavalo.
User avatar #362 to #361 - alhemicar (05/19/2013) [-]
huh, pa mogao si tako odmah

naravno da jest, jebiga
User avatar #363 to #362 - serotonin (05/19/2013) [-]
Plasio sam se da ce mozda eskalirati ako obznanim svoje poreklo. Srebrenica je problematicna tema.
User avatar #364 to #363 - alhemicar (05/19/2013) [-]
Jeste, ali vjeruj mi mrsko mi je o tome ikako pričati, prije sam to radio stalno ali sam shvatio da nema nikakve fajde od tog
#266 - repostsrepost (05/18/2013) [-]
These are a problem with people and governments, not a problem with religion. If a government that is christian orders the execution of nonbeleivers, can we blame it on christianity? Governments kill people for many reasons. If an Iranian government executes Kurds, can we logically say that Iranians are the root of all evil? If someone dies from a heart attack after eating McDonalds every day 3 times a day, can we logically say that Cheeseburgers are fatal? A religion is a belief. And beliefs aren't evil, only people can be.
#258 - anonymous (05/18/2013) [-]
They can hear, and see what you're visually thinking. This is the absolute complete truth!!!!!

The reason a lot of Asians have completely expressionless faces is so they don't accidentally show facial expressions when people think things they don't like, find funny, astonishing, etc, and Asians segregate so their not nearly as susceptible to that happening.
Asians also segregate, and are untalkative to avoid accidentally saying things that are similar to what people are thinking and going to say.

Try thinking, and visually picturing things that are as wild as you can when you are around Asians, and look for Asians who give people dirty/particular looks for what appears to be for completely no reason.

User avatar #262 to #258 - Whaaaaaaaaa (05/18/2013) [-]
hm, thank you N. Korean citizen I shall take your advice and spread the word.
User avatar #248 - majortomcomics (05/18/2013) [-]
Christians kind of evolved and recognized that, in the past, they were kind of dicks. Don't get me wrong, a lot of them still are. Islam is seriously the most barbaric **** I've ever seen, though. I do not give a **** about political correctness, when I see something that is wrong, I let people know it's wrong. We should not be accepting of people of every religion, as not to offend. **** them, they have to adapt to our culture, we should not be molded by minorities. By the way, people that say gays need to adapt to our culture, need to adapt to our culture, our culture as in most of America, because the majority of people I've spoken to on the issue support gay marriage, gays have adapted. Also, why shouldn't we adapt to gays, but we should accept a religion of woman-killers and suicide bombers into our society? Sorry for spouting off, I had to get that off my chest.
#281 to #248 - bigrog (05/18/2013) [-]
so hate all muslims for that reason only.
User avatar #278 to #248 - konradkurze ONLINE (05/18/2013) [-]
judaism is the most barbaric

yes islam and muslim have their problems, but in their past, when they conquered others, they merged them into the one people
with judaism, when they conquer, they take a steaming piss on the conquered
User avatar #282 to #278 - majortomcomics (05/18/2013) [-]
Islam is the same as Muslim, just for your information. As for the rest, I agree that Judaism was brutal, maybe even more so than Christianity, but now, in the 21st century, the Muslims' expressions of savagery is disgusting.
#286 to #282 - konradkurze ONLINE (05/18/2013) [-]
well its hard to make a fair judgement since israel wont let media into palestine to get full information
User avatar #290 to #286 - majortomcomics (05/18/2013) [-]
True, I would not say them obliterating Muslims isn't justified. They push on into their country, and try to take the Gaza strip, they deserve to get their **** wrecked like they do, in my opinion...
User avatar #301 to #290 - konradkurze ONLINE (05/18/2013) [-]
you WANT them to obliterate all muslims?
nice to hear youre on the side of the fascists
User avatar #305 to #301 - majortomcomics (05/18/2013) [-]
I actually don't, I want them to kill the ones that invade them, using the Koran to justify sending missiles toward Israel killing innocent people. They do not go out of their way to kill muslims, they are on the defensive, they kill the ones that attack and attempt to overtake their land because an outdated book tells them to.
User avatar #322 to #305 - konradkurze ONLINE (05/19/2013) [-]
well it all comes down to zionism

the average israeli is peaceful, its the zionists who follow the same policy of the Nazis, believing in their right to conquer all, are the problem
User avatar #252 to #248 - drooms (05/18/2013) [-]
Kind of...
User avatar #254 to #252 - majortomcomics (05/18/2013) [-]
"Christians kind of evolved and recognized that, in the past, they were kind of dicks." Learn to read.
User avatar #255 to #254 - drooms (05/18/2013) [-]
They weren't kind of dicks.
They were dicks!
User avatar #256 to #255 - majortomcomics (05/18/2013) [-]
I know, but kind of is a more subtle way of saying, "Hey, these guys were totally complete ******** !"
User avatar #260 to #256 - drooms (05/18/2013) [-]
Theres no "subtle" way to go about it.
User avatar #261 to #260 - majortomcomics (05/18/2013) [-]
There is, if you say "kind of".
#337 to #261 - giustobuffo (05/19/2013) [-]
This is the BEST way to end an argument.
This is the BEST way to end an argument.
User avatar #338 to #337 - majortomcomics (05/19/2013) [-]
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#246 - WizardOfTheLawl (05/18/2013) [-]
I never get to use this
User avatar #237 - masterfuck (05/18/2013) [-]
For everyone who thinks Islam is a religion of peace I recommend "Islam - What the West Needs to Know"
#226 - onefuckingskurut (05/18/2013) [-]
ITT: Accepting our lord into our house.
User avatar #320 to #226 - taintedangel (05/19/2013) [-]
Here's a translation for people who don't want to have their ideals associated with the "I'm 13 and I'm trying to be cool!" people.
It's about self-empowerment, not worshiping Satan. Satan doesn't exist and is just an image, nothing more. It's also against sacrifices, especially of children and animals. But IMO, it's the nietzschean philosophy made into a religion.
The Nine Statements:
- Don't be abstinent and deny yourself things.
- Worry about the physical self and forget about the 'after life', it doesn't matter.
- Don't be a hypocrite.
- Be nice and kind to people who deserve your kindness, and **** the douchebags who are undeserving of it.
- If someone ***** with you, **** with him so that he won't **** with you ever again.
- Be responsible for your actions and don't blame others for them.
- Man is an animal, and only better because he is more vicious.
- The concept of 'religious sin' is ******** , and it denies you emotional, physical and mental satisfaction.
- The idea of 'Satan' as a real being kept the church in business for years.

The 11 Rules:
- Shut up about your opinions and advice unless someone asks you about them.
- Shut up about your problems unless you are sure someone wants to listen to them.
- Show respect when in someone else's home, otherwise GTFO.
- If a guest in your home shows you disrespect, disrespect him/her worse than they do to you.
- No forcing yourself on another sexually.
- Don't steal unless the person doesn't want the item in question.
- Admit you were lucky when you get rich, or else you will lose it all.
- Don't complain about things that don't concern you.
- Don't hurt children.
- Only kill non-human animals in self-defense or for food.
- Don't bother people. If someone bothers you and you politely ask him to stop and he doesn't, kick his ass.
User avatar #335 to #320 - taintedangel (05/19/2013) [-]
The nine sins of satanism
- Stupidity
- Pretentiousness
- Solipsism
- Lying to Yourself
- Herd Conformity
- Lack of Perspective
- Forgetfulness of past Orthodoxies
- Counterproductive Pride
- Lack of Aesthetics

Basically, if people want to educate others on satanism, they should cut out all of the 'satanic' and 'gothic' wordplay and just present it in regular english.
#239 to #226 - teoberry (05/18/2013) [-]
how's middle school?
#234 to #226 - ravenger (05/18/2013) [-]
I remember when i was 13 too.
User avatar #218 - riftninetyseven (05/18/2013) [-]
Oh yay another bandwagon anti religious generalization suggesting that religion is always violent where have I heard that before
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