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#73 - luiselvergas (05/09/2013) [-]
> implying public schools are any good......
> implying public schools are any good......
User avatar #79 to #73 - luiselvergas (05/09/2013) [-]
i think i should rephrase to
> implying the Government uses that money efficently
User avatar #75 to #73 - HarvietheDinkle (05/09/2013) [-]
can you think of a better system?
User avatar #82 to #75 - helenwheels (05/09/2013) [-]
Golly gee willikers! What could be better than shoving 30 kids into a confined space with one adult, whose expected to teach them a set of certain things regardless of a child's interests or talents and can only progress as quickly as the slowest student!

Holy hell! What a great system!
#93 to #82 - anonymous (05/09/2013) [-]
it's easy to complain about something.

But you're just that - a whiny nobody - until you actually get off your ass and do something about it.
User avatar #89 to #82 - HarvietheDinkle (05/09/2013) [-]
"think of a viable solution, then" is basically what I said.

Never said the current system is good; just that alternate solutions may be worse. And hard to implement.
User avatar #94 to #89 - helenwheels (05/09/2013) [-]
Smaller classes and more teachers is a good way to start, but I know that's easier said than done because we need more people who are willing to teach.
User avatar #96 to #94 - HarvietheDinkle (05/09/2013) [-]
exactly.
User avatar #98 to #96 - helenwheels (05/09/2013) [-]
Still, we need to work on it, simply excepting something because coming up with a solution is hard is the opposite of what people should do.

I can say, I learned positively nothing from my public school education, everything I know was learned from family or the internet and people I know who don't have many educated family members are as dumb as rocks.
User avatar #246 to #98 - HarvietheDinkle (05/10/2013) [-]
Thing is, that's simply what people are doing - complaining but not offering any solutions, let alone viable ones.

It's the same thing with any political issue.
User avatar #249 to #246 - helenwheels (05/10/2013) [-]
The internet is a board for complaining, complaining about others complaining doesn't do much either.
User avatar #250 to #249 - HarvietheDinkle (05/10/2013) [-]
it gets them to realize (or at least admit) they're doing nothing. A minor accomplishment.
User avatar #78 to #75 - gammajk (05/09/2013) [-]
Yeah, like what Norway and Finland have.
User avatar #81 to #78 - HarvietheDinkle (05/09/2013) [-]
Norway and Finland have highly differentdemographics than the US.

Also, it will be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to switch over.

luiselvergas makes sense now with his/her new comment.

User avatar #77 to #75 - kijajouteh (05/09/2013) [-]
Homeschool.
User avatar #80 to #77 - HarvietheDinkle (05/09/2013) [-]
1) indoctrination by parents
2) Very hard to standardize
3) How can college determine level of difficulty?
4) Much less (if no) interaction with peers of the same age - vital to social development and creation of social skills


I thought of these within 5 seconds. Homeschooling is not the way to go, for the majority of people.
#117 to #80 - xxpredatorxx (05/09/2013) [-]
1) I would be more worried about indoctrination by the schools than by the parents.
2) Why would you want it standardized?
3) Interview? test? there are plenty of ways other than the systems we have now.
4) Homeschoolers where I'm from are much more socially active than the average public school student.
User avatar #245 to #117 - HarvietheDinkle (05/10/2013) [-]
1) school teachings are public and more easy to regulate than the teachings of millions of parents
2) standardization is important to make sure that skills are up to par, to make sure there are no unfair advantages, and to make sure that colleges can actually have a standard by which they can do.
3) School grades over a 4-year course are much more important and well-rounded than the one-time solutions you mentioned.
4) That might be true, from where you are.

Also, how will we convince millions of parents to homeschool their kids? What about parents who don't have the time or income?

We need a standardized school system. But homeschooling is certainly not the solution for the vast majority.
User avatar #84 to #80 - kijajouteh (05/09/2013) [-]
1. Indoctrination is not required, you are free at 18.
2. Tons of courses that go with public schools.
3. Normally, you get more work done in Homeschool, most people graduate 1-2 years earlier.
4. We socialize dogs, not children
User avatar #92 to #84 - HarvietheDinkle (05/09/2013) [-]
1) I assume that's humor. Parents often indoctrinate their children (example: religion) and by the time the kids are 18 it's too late.
2) Ok. But how can we standardize the teaching and make sure the parents are up to par?
3) Depends on the parent (as with #2). Standardization issues
4) Kids need to socialize

One more thing: What if certain parents don't want to take up the task of teaching? That's actually the vast majority of parents, so we need a large public school option.
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