Saruman. Is a no good hipster!. mun: IT s. Kit Sll. Christopher Lee is the only one from the LOTR cast who actually met J.R.R. Tolkien Saruman Is a no good hipster! mun: IT s Kit Sll Christopher Lee is the only one from LOTR cast who actually met J R Tolkien
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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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User avatar #7 - skrewbacca
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Christopher Lee is the only one from the LOTR cast who actually met J.R.R. Tolkien
User avatar #17 to #7 - iwanttousenumbers
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And Tolkien wanted him to play Gandalf
User avatar #25 to #7 - wishingwell
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And James Bond is probly based on him (Ian Flemming is his step-cousin, was special forces, worked undercover during ww2 [the files are still classified to this day])
... his Wiki entry is quite full of awe
#14 to #7 - cunningstunt
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And Tolkien wanted him to play Gandalf.
And Tolkien wanted him to play Gandalf.
User avatar #8 to #7 - phantomi
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and Tolkien wanted him to play Gandalf
User avatar #12 to #8 - woodywoodlinson
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But Jackson thought he was too old
User avatar #13 to #12 - phantomi
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pretty much what I heard
User avatar #11 - litlekalsoy
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Well, wasn't J.R.R. Tolkien an anti-industrialist who fought in WWI?
Which is why the hobbits, who lived in the fields and forests, along with the elves, who lived in forests, and men, who lived on highlands, were the good guys? Also they represented the "Big Three" (France, Britain and the U.S.A.) which was another reason to make them seem good.
The orcs (who represents the Germans) and goblins (who represents the Austro-Hungarian Empire) were evil because they not only "started" the war (in Tolkien's eyes) but cut down all the trees for industry which is conveyed as a bad thing.




I think. Please don't hit me.
#18 to #11 - winrobert
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#20 to #11 - kingpongthedon
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That's one of the ways it's been interpreted, however, if you look at Tolkien's own quotes, he basically says it was just a way for him to play around with a language he invented (elvish), it had to be an epic because that's really the only way he could fully explore it's possibilities. He always considered himself a linguist first and a writer second.

Though the characters (especially Samwise) were heavily influenced by the people he fought with, they aren't meant to represent anything other than basic humanity, good & evil, etc. The only pseudo-political symbolism he admits to, and it's blatant in his works, is that greed (most visibly manifested as industry) killed chivalry. It's not so much that he was anti-industry, per se (he believed industry had it's place and could thoroughly benefit man, I mean, look at the dwarves), but that he was against much of the philosophy of greed associated with industrialism. He was definitely an environmentalist and lamented the fact that people's greed would cause them to do such harm to their own world.
User avatar #22 to #20 - litlekalsoy
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Yeah that's probably a much better explanation than what I have but I've been told it's just better watch/read it without using any of the political or social aspects which is fair but I find debates are of interpretation are much more fun.
#15 to #11 - marioauditore
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Man, you got your Tolkien wrong. He hated this kind of historical interpretation of his work.
User avatar #16 to #15 - litlekalsoy
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Oh...

Well ****.
#5 - other
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Do you know that Christopher Lee is 90? I mean, **** me.
User avatar #19 to #5 - iwanttousenumbers
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Okay
#10 - jibjabkid
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Oh Saruman
Oh Saruman
User avatar #21 to #10 - beerterror
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jackson should have got strangled for this
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#9 - nakedclothes
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This before it was cool joke got old before it was even cool
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#2 to #1 - anon id: 5a886601
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Wow thanks for copy&pasting the bulb; that sure was funny