I am not talking about instances of rape, but for - #91368372 added by PubLandlord at Katie

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this is why rapists and child molesters should be locked up with hardcore criminals. they'd be to scared to go to prison to try anything.

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I am not saying that I think molesting children is ok, but in the same way that we view homosexuality as being "not a choice" I think pedophiles should get give more support and therapy in overcoming their sexual urges, in Ancient Greece it was considered normal to have younger sexual relations.

Countries have different sexual ages of consent so what could land you in jail in America could be fine in Mexico

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ehh you have a good point. but at the same time its just ****** up, like the human body should not even behave like that, homosexuality is a lot more prevalent, but its different. they are old enough to make their own decisions, but the child cant, so even if he like lured her somehow and convinced her she wanted it, still ****** up. plus killing her, didnt need to take the innocence of a child twice

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Well, in Greece, the public relationships with younger people were 'proper' though. As in, the older man (it was usually a man) had to woo the younger boy/girl, and court them as you would an equal. Rape did happen in Greece, and fairly often, but excluding war prizes, it was about as acceptable as it is now. At least in most city states that's how it was.

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They do, if they go into therapy before they rape a child, they get FREE therapy because their condition is potential danger, and they don't get judged because they are protected by doctor-patient confidentiality.
But if the CHOSE not to get therapy, if they CHOSE to harm a child. **** them, they deserve hell while alive and to burn in hell once gone.

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My point is that this current culture demonises people pedophiles instead of looking at it as a mental condition.

The same way homosexuals were considered disgusting when gay sex was illegal, or in the same way that African Americans were persecuted.

I don't think that a prison is a suitable place for a pedophile who downloads child porn but instead is in a facility to rehabilitate.

#598 to #176 - angelusprimus

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Don't compare pedophilia with homosexuality or prosecution of them to prosecution of minorities.
Pedophiles can be compared to people who find sexual attraction with animals. In a way that animal like a child can't give consent.
Problem with people who look for and download child porn is that they create a demand. When there is a demand there will always be people who will step up to provide to the demand, and in this case it means someone will exploit the children.

You compared it to ancient greece pederasty. Two things with that, while it was a grown man and a child by today's standard, boy had to be atleast 11 years old. 11 years was age of becoming a man then. You could vote and go to war at that age. And those relationships while sexual, were more then that, they were mentoriships to teach a boy how to think, fight, run property. Don't forget, they didn't have formal education then.

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the only difference is that homosexuality is mutual. whereas pedophilia and rape is harming You need to login to view this link it ok if a homosexual man went out and raped another man because of his homosexual urge? i mean it's understandable if the homosexual man was having dirty thoughts, because he obviously liked a guy, the same way a pedophile would like a child, the same way a straight person would like a woman. But rape is Unacceptable either way, and to a child, it's even worse.

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I am not talking about instances of rape, but for instance in the UK , sex with someone under the age of 12 , even if consensual is considered rape, however in Mexico and Ancient Greece you are permitted to have sex with a 13 year old.

I'm not condoning Rape, and I think there needs to be a change in the approach, instead of deamonising pedophiles we are essentially making it a taboo subject, I think a person who found children attractive would be scared to go to a doctor or psychiatrist for fear of the law.

It seems to easy to take the stance that these peoples (people with sexual urges towards children) are disgusting and completely void of any help, understandably the criminal in this post had to be imprisoned, but if we don't try and rehabilitate or reach out to these people they will be driven underground which is much more dangerous