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pukingrainbows (05/04/2013) [-] 
Consider Ben from the Walking Dead comics.
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He slaughtered his brother but he still had his innocence. He didn't realize what a horrible thing he did. He was growing up around people being killed left and right, and really had no concept of what was right? Innocence can sometimes lead a kid down a wrong path.
Discuss.
He slaughtered his brother but he still had his innocence. He didn't realize what a horrible thing he did. He was growing up around people being killed left and right, and really had no concept of what was right? Innocence can sometimes lead a kid down a wrong path.
Discuss.
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2scared2login (05/04/2013) [-]
Perhaps not their life, but by nature, children are damned near vulnerable to just about everything. Taking advantage of someone in that predicament is low, so while the crime is the same, it is a new level of cowardice. Like. . .taking candy from a baby.
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greenstrongworld (05/03/2013) [-] I'd say yes. Humans aren't eternal beings. Each one dies and one takes over their place. However, when each one is born, they start making their own choices and accomplishing things they've never felt before. In terms of experience and not-yet-created memories, I think children are much more valuable than older people. For example, I would probably bet that Katie has not yet been married, made friends that last forever, experienced the joys of being in high school, driven a car or anything you guys here at FJ have experienced in your life. So many things have been taken away from her that she didn't even know about. She could've enjoyed life for so much longer. And it's not just her. Her parents probably mourned for their daughter because every child born seems like a miracle of life to their parents. They probably have planned a vacation the coming summer to go to DisneyWorld or something that she would've enjoyed. Thanks for listening to my opinion.(rather, reading it) GSW out.
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Omegashenron (05/04/2013) [-] I kinda agree with both of the points I mean by danniegurl's logic that means a 25 year old should give his life to save a 24 year old regardless of circumstances.
Heres a question for you(I just woke up btw so it will proably be a little hazy.)
Let's say theres a man and his child and theyre trapped in this room and the only way out is to feed the door a life so basically you have to either kill yourself or kill ur child. Of course the dad would kill himself right? But there's a long walk out of the rest of the tunnel to the outside world and even then the dad has no clue where they are. So what does he do? Sacrifice himself and save his baby?(at least for a while)Keep in mind the baby would just lie in the room screaming and unless someone finds the utnnel and walks in to find the baby screaming it will die of starvation or dehydration take your pick. Or does he kill his son to leave the room and most likely escape and live his life?
These are the things that pop into my head when philosophy comes to question. Im sorry lol. Please respond anyone who cares to answer.
Heres a question for you(I just woke up btw so it will proably be a little hazy.)
Let's say theres a man and his child and theyre trapped in this room and the only way out is to feed the door a life so basically you have to either kill yourself or kill ur child. Of course the dad would kill himself right? But there's a long walk out of the rest of the tunnel to the outside world and even then the dad has no clue where they are. So what does he do? Sacrifice himself and save his baby?(at least for a while)Keep in mind the baby would just lie in the room screaming and unless someone finds the utnnel and walks in to find the baby screaming it will die of starvation or dehydration take your pick. Or does he kill his son to leave the room and most likely escape and live his life?
These are the things that pop into my head when philosophy comes to question. Im sorry lol. Please respond anyone who cares to answer.
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admiralen (05/04/2013) [-] thats an ideal, comming from emotions, you might think what you will, but thats just ****** instincts from the past, a baby is a blank slate, when lost, nothing much is lost, an old person is a book, when lost their entire story is too, just cause the baby will develop into a book eventually doesnt mean its worth more then the actual books
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captnpl (05/04/2013) [-]
The old have already left their impact on the world, its up to the next generation to fix what they did wrong and improve what they did right. That's how progress happens. People look for better ways to do things, but once they find them they stop looking. It takes a new life, devoid of the old habits and concepts , to take things to new levels.
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vatra ONLINE (05/03/2013) [-] It is more the molestation, rape is just generally frowned upon by the criminal community, but to defile a child is the lowest of the low. If a child molester values his or her life, they will tell the other inmates that they did something else. Guards often "let it slip" that an inmate is a child molester, then look the other way when the inmates in act their revenge.
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sparkieemae (05/03/2013) [-] Well lets see, Katie was little and could not fight off an adult attacker and did not solicit or deserve being molested and ******** .
This ****** molested someone smaller than them because they where bigger and could, then, he took away the rest of her life. She only lived ten years and he took away every single year she had left.
So yeah, maybe her life was worth slightly more than his. Maybe, yeah he deserves to be forcibly branded with the name of the human being he destroyed.
This ****** molested someone smaller than them because they where bigger and could, then, he took away the rest of her life. She only lived ten years and he took away every single year she had left.
So yeah, maybe her life was worth slightly more than his. Maybe, yeah he deserves to be forcibly branded with the name of the human being he destroyed.
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thephantur (05/03/2013) [-] I think it's the fact that they are innocent and pure and have done nothing wrong. We are animals and we protect our young. Adults have spent many years on this earth and experienced their lives. Children have not. Killing a child is like taking away their chance at experiencing life. Not only that, but a child is defenseless. Killing a man who is bad, but killing a small child who can't do much more than scream is millions of times worse.
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finni (05/04/2013) [-] That's kind of how I feel about abortion. I know it's a touchy subject, and I know I'll probably get thumbed down for it, but yeah, even if it isn't considered life by doctors it would evolve into one and you're taking away the chance of somebody to have a life.
I know it's a lot more complicated than that. The mother might not be capable of taking care of the child, the mother might be too young or she just don't want the burden of the child etc. but that's how I feel about it. Ain't got nothing to do with God ot anything, it's just about the life that never got a chance
I know it's a lot more complicated than that. The mother might not be capable of taking care of the child, the mother might be too young or she just don't want the burden of the child etc. but that's how I feel about it. Ain't got nothing to do with God ot anything, it's just about the life that never got a chance
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2scared2login (05/04/2013) [-]
I think you are having a romanticised view on kids. Well, of the top of my head I could throw that honey booboo thing out, and neighbours kids (all around 9 years) gathered around and kicked my brother while he was on the floor.
I can see myself breaking those bastards necks, kids aren't different then adults, there is not reason in anything there is just what you do that defines you
I can see myself breaking those bastards necks, kids aren't different then adults, there is not reason in anything there is just what you do that defines you
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mastercolossus (05/04/2013) [-]
the reason inmates do this is because of how they see their own families and how they believe a person like that shouldnt go unpunished. also the main reason why women and children are protected like this is because of survival. all it takes is a few men surviving a cataclysm to continue the human race but you need alot more women to have variety in the genes. the practice is still in place so that any particular group of humans can have a better chance to survive versus other groups of humans.
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superafromanxd (05/04/2013) [-]
i agree with you , if you're going to kill someone or something it should be able to defend itself. Its the same reason I can blankly watch someone gettin their head chopped off but cringe at seeing some kid torturing a puppy
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superafromanxd (05/04/2013) [-]
ok vegan, theres an emotional difference between the animals. When you see a pig its ********** with filth and bacon. When you see a cat or dog you ********* it with cuteness and innocence since they are pet animals.
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bluedwarf (05/04/2013) [-] Perhaps you have heard of those powerful families that exist even today, and I ****** you there is at least one who is sheltering their daughter/son from the outer world, and actually another example came in my mind, are you by any chance familiar with that comedian that said something along the lines: I will ********** tonight, tonight and I will think of you when I do it; to that hard core christian activist.
Remember there was a lot of content about him here on fj. That girl I honestly believe is as clean as a child. She might not be the brightest but that's not what we are discussing here anyways and in my opinon this trait contributes to the whole innocence picture that we have of kids.
Funny enough, since you already mentioned Downs syndrome, I think in an attempt to beat your point I actually helped you prove it .
Remember there was a lot of content about him here on fj. That girl I honestly believe is as clean as a child. She might not be the brightest but that's not what we are discussing here anyways and in my opinon this trait contributes to the whole innocence picture that we have of kids.
Funny enough, since you already mentioned Downs syndrome, I think in an attempt to beat your point I actually helped you prove it .
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vatra ONLINE (05/04/2013) [-] To your last point, a little bit yes lol.
As for the sheltering, all that accomplishes is not allowing the child to become properly prepared to deal with the real world, I have a friend that was sheltered her whole life, she hates her parents for it.
Lastly at least in my opinion, innocence is synonymous with lack of experience. So in essence that would mean you aren't truly living. Of course children get a free **** on that as they haven't had the opportunity to live yet.
As for the sheltering, all that accomplishes is not allowing the child to become properly prepared to deal with the real world, I have a friend that was sheltered her whole life, she hates her parents for it.
Lastly at least in my opinion, innocence is synonymous with lack of experience. So in essence that would mean you aren't truly living. Of course children get a free **** on that as they haven't had the opportunity to live yet.
