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#57 - narlydude

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(05/03/2013) [-]

Is a child's life worth more than an adult's?

#788 to #57 - pukingrainbows

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Consider Ben from the Walking Dead comics. walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Ben_(Comic_Series)
He slaughtered his brother but he still had his innocence. He didn't realize what a horrible thing he did. He was growing up around people being killed left and right, and really had no concept of what was right? Innocence can sometimes lead a kid down a wrong path.
Discuss.

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**** you, faggot

#797 to #796 - pukingrainbows

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wow, didn't expect THAT much butthurt

#783 to #57 - anon id: ccb5e329

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No, no they aren't anything anyone else says is just sentimental ********. People care more for kids than adults, so that's what it comes down to.

#772 to #57 - anomypingas

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No human life is worth anything from what we have done to everything else.

#550 to #57 - Yesitsme

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#787 to #550 - anon id: ccb5e329

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what about killing a kid who is a raised around violence, has killed and shows no signs of stopping, but he really has no idea the consequences of his actions and doesn't see the problem with it?

#459 to #57 - anon id: aa9e02c9

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Perhaps not their life, but by nature, children are damned near vulnerable to just about everything. Taking advantage of someone in that predicament is low, so while the crime is the same, it is a new level of cowardice. Like. . .taking candy from a baby.

#278 to #57 - haunterbrony

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Define what you mean by worth.

#171 to #57 - theoriginaltwat

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In my opinion it's something to do with the innocence and the vulnerability of a child that makes crimes against them so abhorrent

#149 to #57 - greenstrongworld

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I'd say yes. Humans aren't eternal beings. Each one dies and one takes over their place. However, when each one is born, they start making their own choices and accomplishing things they've never felt before. In terms of experience and not-yet-created memories, I think children are much more valuable than older people. For example, I would probably bet that Katie has not yet been married, made friends that last forever, experienced the joys of being in high school, driven a car or anything you guys here at FJ have experienced in your life. So many things have been taken away from her that she didn't even know about. She could've enjoyed life for so much longer. And it's not just her. Her parents probably mourned for their daughter because every child born seems like a miracle of life to their parents. They probably have planned a vacation the coming summer to go to DisneyWorld or something that she would've enjoyed. Thanks for listening to my opinion.(rather, reading it) GSW out.

#141 to #57 - samoaspider

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Yes. When Titanic sunk into the ocean they saved the women and children first. Think about it.

#135 to #57 - admiralen

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i cant say i agree, if a child dies it didnt have much to lose, but if an old person dies, every experience they had, all their knowledge and memories will die with them

#201 to #135 - danniegurl

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they lose so much more. they lose their entire future.
an old person has already experienced life.

#778 to #201 - Omegashenron

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I kinda agree with both of the points I mean by danniegurl's logic that means a 25 year old should give his life to save a 24 year old regardless of circumstances.

Heres a question for you(I just woke up btw so it will proably be a little hazy.)
Let's say theres a man and his child and theyre trapped in this room and the only way out is to feed the door a life so basically you have to either kill yourself or kill ur child. Of course the dad would kill himself right? But there's a long walk out of the rest of the tunnel to the outside world and even then the dad has no clue where they are. So what does he do? Sacrifice himself and save his baby?(at least for a while)Keep in mind the baby would just lie in the room screaming and unless someone finds the utnnel and walks in to find the baby screaming it will die of starvation or dehydration take your pick. Or does he kill his son to leave the room and most likely escape and live his life?
These are the things that pop into my head when philosophy comes to question. Im sorry lol. Please respond anyone who cares to answer.

#214 to #201 - admiralen

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the future is an abstract thing, and besides, theres no shortage on either old or young people, babies are replacable, old people are not

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i wish your mom would have decided to replace you. Obviously you have no wisdom to pass on to future generations.

#761 to #684 - admiralen

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neither does babies faggot

#809 to #761 - anon id: 9392c2e3

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Thats so stupid. Its like saying killing you right now is way better then killing a 90year old. Compared you have less then a quarter of life experience they have, so that makes you worthless in the terms of life.

#810 to #809 - admiralen

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maybe, ive got less to lose then them

#216 to #214 - danniegurl

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"babies are replaceable"?
are you ******* kidding me?
they're human beings, not a t shirt.
they're no more replaceable than an old person.
no one is replaceable.

#760 to #216 - admiralen

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thats an ideal, comming from emotions, you might think what you will, but thats just ****** instincts from the past, a baby is a blank slate, when lost, nothing much is lost, an old person is a book, when lost their entire story is too, just cause the baby will develop into a book eventually doesnt mean its worth more then the actual books

#811 to #760 - captnpl

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The old have already left their impact on the world, its up to the next generation to fix what they did wrong and improve what they did right. That's how progress happens. People look for better ways to do things, but once they find them they stop looking. It takes a new life, devoid of the old habits and concepts , to take things to new levels.

#812 to #811 - admiralen

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yeah, but theyre replacable, theyre easy to make and replace

#167 to #135 - ICEDgrunge

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It's the value of the opportunities that the children have to experience moreso than what actually has been experienced that is put on the scale in this case.

#118 to #57 - vatra

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It is more the molestation, rape is just generally frowned upon by the criminal community, but to defile a child is the lowest of the low. If a child molester values his or her life, they will tell the other inmates that they did something else. Guards often "let it slip" that an inmate is a child molester, then look the other way when the inmates in act their revenge.

#91 to #57 - lupepush

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If this hits the front page, than your comment is gonna create *********.

#89 to #57 - sparkieemae

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Well lets see, Katie was little and could not fight off an adult attacker and did not solicit or deserve being molested and murdered.

This asshat molested someone smaller than them because they where bigger and could, then, he took away the rest of her life. She only lived ten years and he took away every single year she had left.

So yeah, maybe her life was worth slightly more than his. Maybe, yeah he deserves to be forcibly branded with the name of the human being he destroyed.

#133 to #89 - admiralen

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thats not what he asked though, he asked if a childs life is worth more then an adults, not if a raped child is worth more then a pedofile

#67 to #57 - thephantur

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I think it's the fact that they are innocent and pure and have done nothing wrong. We are animals and we protect our young. Adults have spent many years on this earth and experienced their lives. Children have not. Killing a child is like taking away their chance at experiencing life. Not only that, but a child is defenseless. Killing a man who is bad, but killing a small child who can't do much more than scream is millions of times worse.

#813 to #67 - finni

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That's kind of how I feel about abortion. I know it's a touchy subject, and I know I'll probably get thumbed down for it, but yeah, even if it isn't considered life by doctors it would evolve into one and you're taking away the chance of somebody to have a life.

I know it's a lot more complicated than that. The mother might not be capable of taking care of the child, the mother might be too young or she just don't want the burden of the child etc. but that's how I feel about it. Ain't got nothing to do with God ot anything, it's just about the life that never got a chance

#805 to #67 - babyanalraper

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I think that you and I would be great friends

#804 to #67 - anon id: c2411e2d

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Hi friend

#784 to #67 - anon id: ccb5e329

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i bet you support abortion

#777 to #67 - larryqa **User deleted account**

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#776 to #67 - iAmAWizard

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>This comment
>Your profile picture is pedobear

#768 to #67 - anon id: 74897fc9

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I think you are having a romanticised view on kids. Well, of the top of my head I could throw that honey booboo thing out, and neighbours kids (all around 9 years) gathered around and kicked my brother while he was on the floor.
I can see myself breaking those bastards necks, kids aren't different then adults, there is not reason in anything there is just what you do that defines you

#765 to #67 - mastercolossus

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the reason inmates do this is because of how they see their own families and how they believe a person like that shouldnt go unpunished. also the main reason why women and children are protected like this is because of survival. all it takes is a few men surviving a cataclysm to continue the human race but you need alot more women to have variety in the genes. the practice is still in place so that any particular group of humans can have a better chance to survive versus other groups of humans.

#764 to #67 - trollins

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#748 to #67 - daentraya

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And if it's not killing, terrible events like rape can traumatize a kid for the rest of it's life..

#742 to #67 - ieatbengay

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im just saiyan the thing about animals protecting their young isnt the best metaphor because in nature a lot of animals choose the stronger children to raise and leave the others to die

#741 to #67 - ferbisboy

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hitler did nothing wrong either

#736 to #67 - anon id: 164a9af7

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I was expecting you to finish as "Which makes it a lot more fun"

#707 to #67 - imyourdaddy

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says the guy with pedo-bear as his profile picture

#693 to #67 - cadencee

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How many adult lives would it take to justify a childs death?

#610 to #67 - superafromanxd

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i agree with you , if you're going to kill someone or something it should be able to defend itself. Its the same reason I can blankly watch someone gettin their head chopped off but cringe at seeing some kid torturing a puppy

#653 to #610 - swalshy

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Chicken, cow, pig, sheep, meat..

#672 to #653 - superafromanxd

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ok vegan, theres an emotional difference between the animals. When you see a pig its associated with filth and bacon. When you see a cat or dog you associate it with cuteness and innocence since they are pet animals.

#599 to #67 - addia

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Although I agree with this. A person with a pedobear avatar defending a child who was molested is hard to take seriously.

#586 to #67 - anon id: 3251a00e

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Says the guy with a Pedobear icon.

#552 to #67 - irokk

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Mad respect, Socrates

#539 to #67 - grimgrey

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I'm sorry, but its really difficult taking your comment seriously while looking at you profile picture.

#532 to #67 - gardenjustice

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Your beautiful comment was ruined by your icon.

#481 to #67 - pleuradispensor

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i feel obligated to point out your fapping pedobear gif right next to your speach about protecting children

#477 to #67 - kaguradragon

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#458 to #67 - anon id: cec9c754

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So do you think abortion is wrong, given killing a child is like taking away their chance at experiencing life?

#449 to #67 - anon id: ba7b8cf9

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I would take your post a lot more seriously if your avatar wasn't pedobear.

#405 to #67 - teekanne

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said by the guy with the pedobear ava

#402 to #67 - anon id: 5ee322c0

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Pedobear why would you say something like that

#392 to #67 - anon id: a9b76b61

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Because of your picture i can't take that seriously at all.

#389 to #67 - RepostDetective

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I don´t know why but your avatar is kinda ruining the message of what your trying to say...

#366 to #67 - anon id: 7924f2ec

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your defending children against rape when your picture is of pedo bear?

#262 to #67 - alucord

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The best part of this was your avatar

#257 to #67 - anon id: 0d07066f

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lol pedo bear

#250 to #67 - theqwertyops

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your profile picture is strangely relevent

#155 to #67 - secretlysuperman

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I'm sorry but your picture takes away from the sad words about the murder of children.

#109 to #67 - jessieqwertyu

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Your avatar gives me conflicting emotions

#102 to #67 - fightforfate

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your avatar doesn't help

#68 to #67 - thephantur

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I just realized everything I said was worthless because of my profile picture...

#670 to #68 - anon id: e3c1da4f

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I have a dream
A dream where all funnyjunkers can be judged by their content and not by the picture on their avatar

#795 to #670 - anon id: 442e7c2f

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**** off, ******

#596 to #68 - jakeattack

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its the internet, we understand the difference between pedobear profile pics and actually molesting a 10 year old girl. hes just ****** up

#383 to #68 - ilovehitler

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I know this feel. Whenever I try to say anything nice or serious at all, people like to bring my username up...

#767 to #383 - iamnotacleverman

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How would you know that feel? Look at your username!

#483 to #383 - psykobear

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If that bothers you, don't make your username "ilovehitler"
thephantur, you could always change your profile pick to something less... rapey.

#490 to #483 - ilovehitler

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I like my name. You have no idea how useful it is when a nazi post comes up.

#499 to #490 - psykobear

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Oh, I'm not criticizing,

#63 to #57 - existacne

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Why not both.jpg

#61 to #57 - Killveous

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I would say yes because they have more life to live. They have more years to live then the older person? So there for they should be saved.
I duno

#59 to #57 - GhandisPimpCane

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Yes but mainly due to the innocence and vulnerability of childhood

#60 to #59 - narlydude

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An adult can be just as innocent and vulnerable as a child

#121 to #60 - vatra

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Maybe if the adult has Downs Syndrome.

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People like you are the reason people like that don't exist. If you try to be an idealist, innocent and righteous for your whole life, people like you are there to slap them down and tell them that's wrong.

#814 to #786 - vatra

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By all means he can be however he likes, but as a whole, adults are not innocent, the world is imperfect and tends to corrupt anything that has been here awhile.

#816 to #814 - bluedwarf

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Perhaps you have heard of those powerful families that exist even today, and I assure you there is at least one who is sheltering their daughter/son from the outer world, and actually another example came in my mind, are you by any chance familiar with that comedian that said something along the lines: I will masturbate tonight, tonight and I will think of you when I do it; to that hard core christian activist.

Remember there was a lot of content about him here on fj. That girl I honestly believe is as clean as a child. She might not be the brightest but that's not what we are discussing here anyways and in my opinon this trait contributes to the whole innocence picture that we have of kids.

Funny enough, since you already mentioned Downs syndrome, I think in an attempt to beat your point I actually helped you prove it .

#817 to #816 - vatra

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To your last point, a little bit yes lol.

As for the sheltering, all that accomplishes is not allowing the child to become properly prepared to deal with the real world, I have a friend that was sheltered her whole life, she hates her parents for it.

Lastly at least in my opinion, innocence is synonymous with lack of experience. So in essence that would mean you aren't truly living. Of course children get a free pass on that as they haven't had the opportunity to live yet.

#818 to #817 - bluedwarf

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I was to lead this into a heavy discussion but decided to delete what I wrote. I'll end it with taking my hat off to you, and stating that your comment of them all, (more or less) encaptured the essence of the reason behind murdering children repulsiveness.

#819 to #818 - vatra

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Thanks mate. Guess it all worked out then!

#770 to #121 - bluedwarf

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Hey dude, don't be mean to him. If he believes in some hard to imagine ideals I think that's rather amazing, and not something that needs to be put down.

#815 to #770 - vatra

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Fair, enough, I clash with Idealists, I'm a realist and it annoys me when people try to claim something is better or worse than it actually is.

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