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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#16 - jacklane
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#54 - luidias
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relevant.
#50 - drows
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If god exist, he appeared from "nothing".
If god doesn't exist, the universe appeared from "nothing"
Either way, its a ********...
User avatar #58 to #50 - atticusspc
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God is the universe, everything there is and everything there isnt.
Ex. Blank sheet of paper is god.. you draw a circle on it. then you erase the circle completely but the circle cannot be unseen, this is because the circle was already embedded into the area of the paper and was only outlined to you. In this way God is nothing and everything, Yin Yang
#65 to #58 - delivering
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But don't you first draw a head and then erase it to get a circle?
But don't you first draw a head and then erase it to get a circle?
#84 to #65 - drows
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Even infinity as to start somewhere...
User avatar #88 to #84 - oosime
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No.
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#142 to #50 - anon id: 4a455968
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well what if the highest dimension of reality is a loop?

For the sake of making it simpler (ignoring super dimensional multiverse and supplementing the assumption that there is only 1 universe)

If L were the entire length of time in days, what if L seconds from now the universe were exactly as it is now? it being exactly the same the exact same events would follow and lo and behold L seconds later, the same moment, L seconds after that the same again, etc. etc.
there needs to be no beginning and so no appearance, just an uncontested existence.
#143 to #142 - anon id: 4a455968
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*If L were the entire length of time in seconds

brain fart.
User avatar #149 to #50 - masabumba
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"Why is there something instead of nothing?" is one of my favorite philosophical debates. =)
User avatar #151 to #50 - liftplus
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i don't beileve it came from nathing i think the universe is in a constant paradox
#158 to #50 - chudboy
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The Universe obviously came from nothing. There had to be something there to cause the big bang, a chemical reaction. Anytime I see someone say "Oh how did the universe come from nothing?", I assume they have no knowledge on what the actual big bang theory is about. The Big Bang theory is not about the universe exploding out of nothing. Something caused it, but we don't know what. That's what we're trying to find out. Rather than going "ah well, we don't know why, probably from nothing. We can't explain it so we'll leave it at that".
#164 to #50 - chudboy
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Point is, scientific theory is there to give an explanation on how and why something happened. If we think God does not exist, we don't assume that the Universe came from nothing. Something has to happen. Now on the other hand, from my experience people who do believe in God, don't tend to look for an explanation on why and how. Where did this God come from. They give up because it's usually plausible for them. Since the understanding of the Universe and how we got here is very complex. For me, as a human who does believe in a Deity, often gives up on trying to understand something, even if it's difficult for them to comprehend. That's why most think Evolution and the Big Bang theory is ********. They don't understand why. They can't even comprehend the simplest explanation. And as always it goes against their belief. They assume and usually misunderstand the theories brought forward. I just feel like believing in a God is just too easy. I like an logical explanation to stuff. Rather than "Ahh this is too hard. I think I'll just believe in something that has no proof what so ever." Lazy.
#165 to #164 - chudboy
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"for me, a human who does believe" Not "For me, as a human who does...." I don't believe in a Deity.
User avatar #167 to #50 - angelious
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or maybe god knows how to **** with time.so he goes back in time before he existed to exist there.


maybe god is a timelord?
User avatar #59 to #50 - goldor
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One or the other have always existed and humans can't comprehend infinity.
User avatar #2 - mtandy
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> Implying that because a bunch of self entitled wankers think they know anything about science post stupid things on the internet, we should disregard the one's who actually do.

Also, anyone who has got through high school and who isn't mentally challenged should have learned enough to not fall into that category.
User avatar #4 to #2 - deescalation
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I don't see that implication in his post at all, and how many peer-reviewed papers does the average high schooler read / understand?
User avatar #18 to #4 - tenthdivine
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Not I, good sir. Theories of the beginning of the world aren't my thing. I don't know how it happened, I may never know how it happened, but I don't care. It happened, and that's what matters. I'm sure whatever force made all this **** happen worked very hard to do so, and we should just kick back and be chill, not jump down each other's throats because of different opinions. It's what John Lennon, Jesus, Buddha, Muhammad, all the other deities that stand for peace and love would want!
User avatar #19 to #18 - tenthdivine
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Bush-Chenney 2016
#32 to #2 - giveobamaquarters
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i think you might fall into a subcategory
#155 - lorkhan
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Don't mention religion or atheism OP, don't.
#170 to #155 - teenytinyspider
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It's too late. I'm seeing the ********* brewing in the comments already.
#92 - smittywrbmnjnsn
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I'm not sure what you're implying.

Because, evolution does in fact have something to do with atheism, being that it is the counter to a creationism belief.

The big bang theory is the counter to most peoples' belief in god.

And most of us know a lot more about all of these topics, than the religious know about their own holy books.
#94 to #92 - dederplaol
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User avatar #97 to #94 - smittywrbmnjnsn
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Are you saying I'm wrong?
#101 to #97 - rodneyabc
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The opposite of atheism is religion. Not Christianity.
User avatar #103 to #101 - smittywrbmnjnsn
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Where did I say anything about Christianity?
#108 to #103 - rodneyabc
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Hindus, Buddhists and Sikhs accept evolution, it's only Christianity (and Judaism/Islam) that have a problem with it.
User avatar #109 to #108 - smittywrbmnjnsn
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I guess we've met the "Square to Rectangle" problem.
Most scientists are atheist...but scientific theories are not exclusive to atheism.
User avatar #161 to #101 - HonkIfIDriveWell
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Actually, the opposite of atheism is theism.
User avatar #100 to #97 - dederplaol
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didn't even read your comment until now, just reacted on your reaction pic and felt like sharing my gif
but now that you mention it, yeah I think you're wrong, atheism = "**** you, there is no god and that's the way it is." evolution = genetic adaptation to nature for best survivability
I don't see where they go hand in hand.
The big bang theory part could be correct if you look at it from some angles though
User avatar #107 to #100 - smittywrbmnjnsn
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Atheism is simply the lack of belief in a god.
So...if you believe evolution to be true...you probably don't believe creationism.
If you believe the big bang to be true...you probably don't believe in a god.
That makes most of the scientific community atheist.

Not that I say "most" and "probably", because there are still some that believe a god created the big bang, and thus ignited evolution.
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its funny you should mention that because the big bang theory was developed by a catholic polish clergyman
User avatar #117 to #107 - dederplaol
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most scientists are agnostics, which means that they accept and believe in what has been proven
god haven't been proven, in other words, they don't believe in god.
User avatar #119 to #117 - smittywrbmnjnsn
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That's atheist.
As an atheist, you look at the idea of a god, and say "If there were any proof, I'd believe it in an instant, but there isn't any, so I don't believe it".
User avatar #121 to #119 - dederplaol
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No.. that's what the "teenage"/nobrainer meaning of "atheist" is, it's original meaning is that you completely decline every proof of a god, because there is no god that's just how it is (their way to reason)
An agnostic is someone who doesn't believe in something until it's proven, you HAVE to be an agnostic if you're a scientist otherwise you get too biased and try to find some explanation that relates to your beliefs and it taints the theory itself (if you're so stubborn you find logical ways to prove that it's in a certain way that goes along said scientist's belief)
User avatar #130 to #121 - smittywrbmnjnsn
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I feel like you have a bias against atheists because you don't like the ones you see.
User avatar #134 to #130 - dederplaol
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nah, I just think that agnostic is the right word for what most "atheists" are
User avatar #129 to #121 - smittywrbmnjnsn
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No.
You're wrong.
The dictionary definition of "Atheism" is the lack of belief in a god.
I have a lack of belief in a god...because there is no evidence to support it.
If someone were to point out evidence, any sensible person would believe in a god.
User avatar #132 to #129 - dederplaol
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that's JUST what I said, you just put it in other, simpler, words..
You're an agnostic, who happens to have atheist belief at the moment then
alot of people confuse agnostic and atheist
you admit to not believing in a god - atheist
you admit that you do not believe in a god but you will when there is proof - agnostic
so. you're an agnostic, it's okay, I used to think I was an atheist when I was 14 too..
User avatar #179 to #132 - smittywrbmnjnsn
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NO!

That would require all atheists to be illogical.
Agnostic is saying that there is a good possibility that there is a god...and I don't believe that. I don't think there is ANY possibility that there is a god. But a sensible person, if presented with infallible proof, must accept the fact.

And stop acting like I'm 14.
User avatar #190 to #179 - dederplaol
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christians are people like atheists, idiots on both sides, both have the capacity to act the same way just on different sides of the story, just because you or me aren't going to shove a big fat you know what down someones throat just because they dont believe or the same way the other way around, doesn't mean others won't.
User avatar #187 to #179 - dederplaol
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sigh..
I guess you're correct in that, but some christians aren't sensible and some atheists aren't sensible
a true atheist will ignore the fact that god exists like christians ignore the fact that the big bang theory/evolution/anything that science proves that is against their beliefs are true
but an agnostic will defend the theory that has been proven after several attempts
#136 to #92 - hitro
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Atheism is a lack of belief in a god or gods, it has nothing to do with the big bang.

Now feeling as if the big bang is true may lead to atheism, but there is no direct link.
User avatar #184 to #136 - smittywrbmnjnsn
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Did you even read what I wrote?
#189 to #184 - hitro
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You said evolution has something to do with atheism, which it does not directly.

Thinking that evolution is true does not mean that you can't be a creationist.
User avatar #194 to #189 - smittywrbmnjnsn
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Explain to me, a scenario in which you could see evolution and creationism as truth.
#213 to #194 - hitro
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I can't because i am an atheist.


But there are plenty of people that believe god created the world and guided evolution.

Also pretty much all creationist believe in micro evolution, but were probably talking about macro evolution here, arn't we?
User avatar #215 to #213 - smittywrbmnjnsn
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Creationism is the belief that every creature was created...just the way they are at this point in time.
That means no evolution...at all.
#216 to #215 - hitro
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8VCunAkVDc

I am a little pressed for time so I don't have the ability to actually look up some people that claim to be creationist and evolutionist however in this video at 13 seconds he says evolution being the idea that things change is evident. Even though he is a christian.

Please dont watch teh rest of the video I cant even get past the first minute mark, It is filled with stupidity and ignorance to the maximum.
User avatar #220 to #216 - smittywrbmnjnsn
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A lot of Christians are not creationists.
This one probably thinks that god started evolution, which no longer makes him creationist.
#221 to #220 - hitro
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Good enough for me, i Couldn't watch the video, to ignorant.

You win.
#222 to #221 - hitro
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I think what I was trying to say, is that they believe in some messed up version of evolution, not true evolution.
Probably messes up with something i said but w/e
User avatar #178 to #92 - abesimpson
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>implying that atheism is the opposite of Christianism...

I could be a buddhist scientist that believes in the big bang theory, would that make me atheist?
User avatar #180 to #178 - abesimpson
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*buddhists don't believe in god/s, right? sorry, wrong example
User avatar #5 - vexaton
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Let alone letting them rule earth... They are in charge in America, and ignorant Americans walk around bolsting in pride that God is great and that Jesus is so ******* cool and ****.

I'm not anti-religion. As a matter of fact, I'm pro-religion, anti-retard. I don't go around saying that my cup of water is so ******* awesome because it can be refilled and it quenches my thirst. It's a cup of water. What has Jesus done for you? Oh... My cup of water seems really cool now doesn't it?
#20 to #5 - anon id: a1f9a33a
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You realize being american doesn't make someone a bible basher? There are plenty of americans who aren't religious and plenty more who only pretend to be religious.
User avatar #53 to #20 - vexaton
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They are in charge of America, and "IGNORANT" Americans. Not all of them. Sorry if you misunderstood. I don't think they're all religious.
User avatar #90 to #53 - oosime
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Most of them only pretend to be religious, though.
User avatar #12 to #5 - pwnagraphy
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MY cup is cooler, it has a bendy straw
User avatar #17 to #12 - tenthdivine
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I have a krazy-straw. Get on my level.
User avatar #68 - icedmantwo
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To the anonymous folks (and others I would assume) asking "why is it just a theory?"
In scientific terms, a theory is the highest rank you can get for an idea. It is accepted as fact until such point as the evidence requires it to change, and so it changes. The common use of the word "theory" is in scientific terms equal to "hypothesis" and that is where the confusion apparently lies.
User avatar #73 to #68 - stultum
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Most of the time when people say 'it's just a theory' I simply reply: 'yeah, like the gravitational theory'
User avatar #74 to #73 - icedmantwo
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I can't believe there are still people who don't understand it after all this time.
User avatar #78 to #74 - stultum
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Not all of us have had the required education and upbringing to understand this.

To accept different world views, you have to learn to have a curious and doubting mind. For thist to develop, you need people who take time to discuss the world with you.

To understand what a word means in different contextes, one has to have a sufficient grasp of a language. The linguica franca of the internet is English. A lot of people have it as a second language though. (like me)

To understand what Science means, somebody has to understand the scientific method.

All of this is not complicated. A lot of people just don't bother.

It is only needed for someone to be told the right information, and this person to understand it everybody should be able to do this. The problem is that many people don't listen to others.

Although I am a Christian, I will never question scientific theories. They are facts that can't change. I will only challenge scientific hypothesisses if I have arguments other than 'Because I say so'. One can argue anything with the bible in hand. The bible was written by humans after all, and humans make mistakes. That's why God gave us common sense.

As it says in Thessalonians:
Do not treat prophecies (which includes, as I read it, science) with contempt 21 but test them all; hold on to what is good, 22 reject every kind of evil.
User avatar #79 to #78 - icedmantwo
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Personally I think we need more curious people in the world.
That's just me though. Perhaps if more people were curious we would be a generally better society.
The power of the question "why?"
User avatar #81 to #79 - stultum
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And that's why parents need to stop groaning when their kids go 'but WHY?'
User avatar #82 to #81 - icedmantwo
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I fully plan to do my best to answer my kids questions about the world and perhaps instill a sense of curiosity in him/her
And hopefully everything will work out well
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the key word here is theory. there is no proof. that's why it is a theory.
User avatar #89 to #66 - oosime
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Theory = well-tested with very much evidence.
#106 to #66 - buddhistzilla
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theory: a comprehensive explanation of some aspect of nature that is supported by a vast body of evidence
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Anyone who walks away from the internet thinking they have a firm grasp on any of these things just because they got a ground down description of them is a martyr to their own stupidity.