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#202 - janagirlff (04/22/2013) [-]
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#653 to #202 - anonymous (04/23/2013) [-]
What you are saying is better than what most feminists say, but it is still not exactly right. Women and men do and should also have different rights and roles; and women should and, whether voluntary or by force, do obey men who are the natural and incontrovertible rulers of humanity and earth.

Find a man you respect - and make him a sammich.

Know your role.
#662 to #653 - janagirlff (04/23/2013) [-]
Well you argue that's the natural order meaning nature put it in place when in reality it's really not. Women's equality in most cultures declined significantly as time progressed. For example women in India went from possessing property rights and the ability to divorce their husband to having women as property in the Gupta era. Or China where in peasantry houses in the south (? I may be confusing the south and the north my pardons if I am) worked as diligently as a man while caring for kids, but in North society had their feet binded and were also viewed as property.

See, it wasn't a natural thing. Nature didn't put it there. Mankind made a conscious decision to slowly push women back further and further, not nature. Then as we aged women began to pull themselves up to take back power. So no, women's natural place isn't a man's kitchen being a dutiful little wife. Now man has decided to get its head out of its ass and let people's purposes be determined by their actions and talents, not whether the have a piece of meat dangling between their legs.
#325 to #202 - anonymous (04/22/2013) [-]
good. this is a good comment. the fact that i agree with most of the equality femininst stuff makes me hate the feminazi stuff even more. the worst part, if you've ever had to do reading in college that included 'radical feminism' is that they can literally take anything and portray it as 'oppressive' or created by the 'patriarchy'. like that bitch with the video games. god she's stupid.
User avatar #343 to #325 - simplescience (04/22/2013) [-]
I thought that was hilarious.

"Women are depicted as weak and helpless and need to be saved" except for the part where she didn't even play to the end of one of those games where the chick punches some guy so hard in the balls it makes a shockwave.

Seriously though, what would she have the men of the games do?

P1: "Oh she got kidnapped. Should we possibly go and rescue her?"
P2: "No, she's a strong and independent woman who don't need no man to save her."
P3: "Really? Because it kind of looks like she was unconscious. Plus, you know, I really have feelings for her. She means alot to me. She's a very close friend and I wouldn't want to see her get hurt. Should we maybe go and look for her just to see if she's alright?"
P2: "Yeah, but by saving her from danger, we are clearly oppressing her from expressing her own freedom, and holding her back from being who she wants to be. If we save her, we are asserting a culture where men don't rescue their loved ones because they genuinely love them or care for their safety, it's because we control them with our mind-controlling devices called penises."
P3: "Yeah I guess you're right. I guess she can handle herself."
P1: "I agree. Let's go inside and contemplate how to best control women minds with our mind-bending boners."
#554 to #343 - anonymous (04/23/2013) [-]
I think it's more of the fact that it's always a woman who gets captured and needs help and if not, how often does a dude get depicted as the weak one in need of rescue. How often does a woman get her own story of bravery and growth that's not depicted in a heavily sexualized manner.
User avatar #571 to #554 - simplescience (04/23/2013) [-]
-Chell (Portal Series)
-GLaDOS (Portal 2)
-Faith (Mirror's Edge)
-Jade (Beyond Good and Evil)
-Jill Valentine, Jill Valentine, Claire Redfield, Ada Wong, Rebecca Chambers, Sheva Alomar (Resident Evil)
-Heather Mason (Silent Hill 3)
-Madison Paige (Heavy Rain)
-Dororo (Blood Will Tell) (Not a main character, but still grows without being overly sexualized)
-Alyx Vance (Half-Life 2)
#300 to #202 - ButtermilkPancake ONLINE (04/22/2013) [-]
that's a flying dildo
that's a flying dildo
User avatar #245 to #202 - simplescience (04/22/2013) [-]
I'd like to ask a simple question.

Would the movement consider changing its name to, say, the equality movement? It seems to send mixed signals by saying its a movement for equality, but the name of it directly references women.
User avatar #493 to #245 - happypancake (04/23/2013) [-]
I subscibe to the ideology of the Equalism movement, if that's what you're talking about?
#319 to #245 - anonymous (04/22/2013) [-]
i think the answer to that it that the feminist movement has been labeled the way it has as much by its detractors as its supporters. plus how does one go about doing such a thing? who gets to decide that we're re-labeling a movement? i mean most would agree that it's about equality, but re naming a movement that's long been known as the feminist movement is a bit like saying pluto isn't a planet anymore. who would have the authority to do such a thing? only an arrogant douche would think he does.
User avatar #326 to #319 - simplescience (04/22/2013) [-]
I never stated that it would be easy to do, nor simple to choose who decides such a thing. All I was stating was that Feminism does not seem to be an adequate name for a movement that claims equality for both genders.
#318 to #245 - janagirlff (04/22/2013) [-]
I am but a simple young woman taking part in the movement, not a main participant. Many people have made this statement though and the counter argument is always that at its core we are practicing feminism and should honor the movement by keeping title. I personally would love for the feminzais to brand themselves but I doubt either will give up the title:/ I feel like the negative connotation is seriously harming the positive messages behind feminism. I myself was incredibly anti feminist for majority of my lifetime because I grouped all feminists as feminazis.
User avatar #320 to #318 - simplescience (04/22/2013) [-]
I am but a simple young man who seeks answers to questions in a quest for knowledge and understanding of the world around him. I thank you for your input.

I was honestly expecting a snide remark for a reply, if I even got a reply.

Personally, what with all the negative connotation given to the name of the movement, and how it's name implies a focus on women, I believe a time for a change would not be a bad idea.
#327 to #320 - janagirlff (04/22/2013) [-]
It really, really wouldn't. If anything it would seriously help it out. Now if only I had the power to actually make that happen lol
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