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#134 - teranin ONLINE (04/21/2013) [-]
Leviticus 19:33 - When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. 34 The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.   
   
Can someone explain how conservatives can hate gay marriage and immigrants at the same time?
Leviticus 19:33 - When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. 34 The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.

Can someone explain how conservatives can hate gay marriage and immigrants at the same time?
#486 to #134 - anonymous (04/22/2013) [-]
I understand the sentiment, but "conservative" is not equal to "Christian." I know a lot of Christian conservatives, but also a lot of Christian liberals. Also..."illegal immigrants" is not the same as immigrants. If someone comes here from another country legitimately that is one thing, people who side-step it are another. Our system is far from perfect, but the solution is to improve it, not to decide to break the law.
#344 to #134 - hoskins (04/22/2013) [-]
I like this.
User avatar #305 to #134 - elcreepo (04/22/2013) [-]
We just got them to stop maltreating blacks.

One thing at a time man, they're special kids and need to be treated as such.
#189 to #134 - anonymous (04/21/2013) [-]
I'm not 100 percent sure but when did anyone say we hate immigrants. We do not like illegal immigrants that spit in our countries laws and come over here illegally. They are entitled to get a ******* legitimate license of citizenship.

WHAT IS SO HARD TO GET ABOUT THAT
also gay marriage is completely bogus. It is essentially a religious argument now since civil partnerships are available to them. They even have the same benefits now as married couples. The only dam reason they are going for "equality" is they don't like being looked down upon because they aren't married i guess? Which makes absolutely no sense.
#191 to #189 - teranin ONLINE (04/22/2013) [-]
Civil partnerships are available in 3 states, and are not recognized by the Fed.  gay Marriage is allowed in something like 10 states, and is not recognized by the Fed.  The issue is not the name of it, it's the money, man.  No tax benefits from the federal government, no mandate to allow kinship for estate taxes, can't visit their loved ones in the damn hospital...     
   
Furthermore,  look up Joe Arpaio, and then re-read the bible verse I posted, and try to justify the 						****					 he is endorsed in doing in his sick state to latinos, regardless of their citizenship.  He is generally considered to be "The best sheriff in America".  The whole idea is disgusting.
Civil partnerships are available in 3 states, and are not recognized by the Fed. gay Marriage is allowed in something like 10 states, and is not recognized by the Fed. The issue is not the name of it, it's the money, man. No tax benefits from the federal government, no mandate to allow kinship for estate taxes, can't visit their loved ones in the damn hospital...

Furthermore, look up Joe Arpaio, and then re-read the bible verse I posted, and try to justify the **** he is endorsed in doing in his sick state to latinos, regardless of their citizenship. He is generally considered to be "The best sheriff in America". The whole idea is disgusting.
User avatar #231 to #191 - CrossBowPloxz (04/22/2013) [-]
Gif source wtf
#254 to #231 - teranin ONLINE (04/22/2013) [-]
it's from Birdy the Mighty : Decode.  Good anime.
it's from Birdy the Mighty : Decode. Good anime.
#212 to #191 - anonymous (04/22/2013) [-]
Well your wrong about the benefits part but okay buddy. They can petition for civil partnerships to be the same as marriage without the religious document. Its gay marriage which is not endorsed in religion at all. Your argument is very weak as far as that goes.

Immigration is a different matter but pretty much three things. 1. i never said i endorse killing/maiming or hurting them. 2. I endorse the removal of illegal immigrants with some form of punishment for the only reason that there are not illegal immigrants coming here illegally. 3. Punishment should be discussed and decided upon but there has to be some form of punishment.

Like i said gay marriage is complete bogus and will always be. They are basically spitting in my face when they petition for gay "marriage". They are literally going trying to say im a terrible person for having my standards and beliefs when i believe marriage is sacred and is entitled to only a man and women.
#253 to #212 - teranin ONLINE (04/22/2013) [-]
Here. Read. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_union   
   
www.ncsl.org/issues-research/human-services/civil-unions-and-domestic-par tnership-statutes.aspx   
   
Civil Unions are NOT recognized by the federal government.  Furthermore, they are NOT available in every state.  That is a big problem.  Do some homework please before dismissing facts out of hand.     
   
As to your statements on immigration,  I wasn't claiming you are a conservative christian,  I was stating that behavior like that by conservative christians colors their objections about gay marriage in hypocritical light.     
   
Remember,  Jesus upheld the laws of the old testament until the end of days in the sermon on the mount,  book of matthew 5:17-20,  and as such,  if you follow any of the laws in the old testament, including the commandments, you must follow all of them,  because not a word may be changed until the end of days.  Also, remember, if you get horny looking at a married woman, be sure to gouge your eye out as it suggests in Matthew 5:27-30... Oh, and be sure to never divorce, because any relationship you or your wife have afterwords is adultery in the eyes of the lord, so you'll ride the train to eternal torment with Jezebel straight into the fun pit.  WHEEEEEE.
Here. Read. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_union

www.ncsl.org/issues-research/human-services/civil-unions-and-domestic-par tnership-statutes.aspx

Civil Unions are NOT recognized by the federal government. Furthermore, they are NOT available in every state. That is a big problem. Do some homework please before dismissing facts out of hand.

As to your statements on immigration, I wasn't claiming you are a conservative christian, I was stating that behavior like that by conservative christians colors their objections about gay marriage in hypocritical light.

Remember, Jesus upheld the laws of the old testament until the end of days in the sermon on the mount, book of matthew 5:17-20, and as such, if you follow any of the laws in the old testament, including the commandments, you must follow all of them, because not a word may be changed until the end of days. Also, remember, if you get horny looking at a married woman, be sure to gouge your eye out as it suggests in Matthew 5:27-30... Oh, and be sure to never divorce, because any relationship you or your wife have afterwords is adultery in the eyes of the lord, so you'll ride the train to eternal torment with Jezebel straight into the fun pit. WHEEEEEE.
#265 to #253 - anonymous (04/22/2013) [-]
Your so stupid its not even funny. Not only did i smash your argument you basically say the same thing. SO why are gay people not trying to get civil partnerships to have the same benefits as marriage? I covered this in my last post and you come back with the same stuff. Its really like you cannot seem to grasp that gay marriage is the worse thing that gay people can do to a person who believes in the Bible.

Listen even if im wrong about the benefits not being the same. My argument is so well thought out that i cover that with this. Well why dont they just try to make civil partnerships the same and push for that?

If you cannot grasp this concept and learn from it than you are being ignorant and stubborn.
User avatar #557 to #265 - coolcalx (04/22/2013) [-]
because of the precedent set in Brown V BOE of Topeka Kansas.

civil unions are unconstitutional.
#332 to #265 - teranin ONLINE (04/22/2013) [-]
Ohhh, ok so your saying that they should be trying to get the right to federally recognized civil unions, not federally recognized gay marriage.  Ok, my bad I misinterpreted that single aspect of your argument while completely crushing the rest of it.   
   
So, quite simply I don't really disagree with that, and actually think the idea that a practice that is (at least for christians) such a sanctified act should not be receiving any sort of benefit from the law, as it selects them out as being better than everyone who is not married, thereby backing a specific religion with government policy.  That being said, were you aware that in Revelations 19 they discuss the marriage ceremony between Jesus (male) and the church (all male, pope is representative of church on earth, is clearly male) as being the crux point upon which all marriage sanctity lies?  It would be pretty easy to take this as an endorsement of gay marriage being of a greater sanctity than straight marriage.     
   
So, I guess my question is, why do you think that your religious beliefs should be held up on a special precipice in a country where the government is not allowed to endorse any specific religious beliefs?   
   
Also, the first word of your reply makes this reaction picture valid.  Next time you call someone stupid, spell the whole insult correctly.
Ohhh, ok so your saying that they should be trying to get the right to federally recognized civil unions, not federally recognized gay marriage. Ok, my bad I misinterpreted that single aspect of your argument while completely crushing the rest of it.

So, quite simply I don't really disagree with that, and actually think the idea that a practice that is (at least for christians) such a sanctified act should not be receiving any sort of benefit from the law, as it selects them out as being better than everyone who is not married, thereby backing a specific religion with government policy. That being said, were you aware that in Revelations 19 they discuss the marriage ceremony between Jesus (male) and the church (all male, pope is representative of church on earth, is clearly male) as being the crux point upon which all marriage sanctity lies? It would be pretty easy to take this as an endorsement of gay marriage being of a greater sanctity than straight marriage.

So, I guess my question is, why do you think that your religious beliefs should be held up on a special precipice in a country where the government is not allowed to endorse any specific religious beliefs?

Also, the first word of your reply makes this reaction picture valid. Next time you call someone stupid, spell the whole insult correctly.
#161 to #134 - anonymous (04/21/2013) [-]
its almost like they care more about making sure straight white people have it best than biblical morality
#239 to #161 - anonymous (04/22/2013) [-]
straight white men*
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