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#738 - cheftimusprime (04/16/2013) [-]
As an Athiest, I approve this method of christianity.
As an Athiest, I approve this method of christianity.
User avatar #747 to #738 - byposted (04/16/2013) [-]
Of course you do. Liberalized Christianity is a slippery slope onto no Christianity.
User avatar #787 to #747 - mrtwilightsparkle (04/16/2013) [-]
Newsflash: Christianity was originally a very low expectation religion. By studying Paul's (and other apostles) letters that aren't in the Bible(Paul founded the Church, for those who don't know), one realizes that Christianity really only required you to believe in Jesus and be a half-decent person. The devotion and requirements set aside by later institutions were solely because of man's tendency to judge other men. So you wouldn't actually be wrong by saying Liberalized Christianity is more accurate than the conservative methods.

Source: Letters from the Apostles and the rest of the New Testament.
User avatar #799 to #787 - byposted (04/16/2013) [-]
You are failing to see that people are not as primitive as they once were. To create and maintain Christianity among the West, the Church needs to show a firm standing in its ideology which cannot be changed. The Bible cannot be rewritten to say that homosexuality isn't vice, for instance.

With this new generation, most are becoming irreligious, or, if religious, just in name like all of these "Christians" on here.
User avatar #819 to #799 - mrtwilightsparkle (04/16/2013) [-]
You basically just said that there are no other interpretations of the Bible that are correct outside of the literal interpretations. Sure, diversifying can be bad, such as Gnosticism, but it is required. It really is not primitive to have a basic understanding of Christianity to follow, if anything, it could make things more harmonious. The lack of specific rules to argue over creates less conflict and less stress of following your religion. Up until the rise of the Roman Catholic Church, being a Christian was difficult in its own rights, however actually following your faith and committing acts of Christianity are not difficult. In truth, the only parts of Christianity that were truly Christianity before it was tainted were generosity, loyalty, communion, and a few key parts of the Old Testament, such as love thy neighbor and things such as that. Many conservative Christians fail to see that the Bible is not a modern book, and many topics were written to address problems from the Biblical Era (Such as Women not speaking in Church)
User avatar #834 to #819 - byposted (04/16/2013) [-]
there are no other interpretations of the Bible that are correct outside of the literal interpretations
Not anymore. In the modern era, you are telling me you wish to have Christianity become an abstract set of kindergarten rules? That worked in the old times simply because most people were illiterate and followed teachings by oral interpretations. For this religion to become something like the below, it will differ not an iota from other spiritualistic religions or believes. The reason why Islam is gaining so much ground in the modern era is because it is anything but liberalized.

"play nice"
"no stealing"
"everybody is friends here"
User avatar #840 to #834 - mrtwilightsparkle (04/16/2013) [-]
See, this is an example of someone who is ignorant of what happened with literal interpretations. The Church happened, yes, people were illiterate, but the common public was forced to follow the literal interpretation by law. Anyways, Christianity wouldn't be an "abstract set of kindergarten rules" if all the fake rules applied by those in power to stay ahead hadn't happened. Frankly, if Paul's teachings had remained, then Christianity would be a much more pleasant religion, because Christians didn't quarrel as you think they would.

Oh, and pray tell, what do you mean only a Literal Interpretation would work? Under that idea, you should stone any woman who is in public uncovered, and you have permission to rape whoever you damn well please. It honestly sounds like you're trying to twist things to fit how you want to live.
User avatar #852 to #840 - byposted (04/16/2013) [-]
I'm twisting things into reality. Your religion of Christianity is dying, only exceptions are in third world countries and Eastern Europe, and I'm trying to say that religion is not needed anymore for spiritualistic needs.

In order to save yourselves, you need to lead the example of the Muslims. Religion must play a big force in society through dogma lest it loses importance in people's lives and dies. I'm not saying religious governments, but religion must not liberalize. Do not turn into what the OP represented or you may one day tell your grandchildren of the death of the Christian, "fairly tail," as they learned in school.
User avatar #857 to #852 - mrtwilightsparkle (04/16/2013) [-]
Kay, I'm done trying to be a decent person. So you're just some conspiracy theory dickwad who has literally no backing to his claims and feels like hot **** because he thinks against the flow. Done here.
User avatar #753 to #747 - daghost (04/16/2013) [-]
And "standard" Christianity is a slippery slope into the Inquisition.
User avatar #822 to #753 - byposted (04/16/2013) [-]
Atheism is a believe highly correlated with liberalism.

I am not religious, but why do I not consider myself an atheist? Perhaps it is because of all the insane liberals who surround atheism, destroying society. I'm sure there are a few people like me.
User avatar #958 to #822 - hydraetis (04/17/2013) [-]
Religion has caused far more problems in leadership than atheism. Politics, Religion, and Business should NEVER be crossed. Politics + Religion = Extremist societies, Politics + Business = Corrupted as **** government, Business + Religion = Discrimination.
#751 to #747 - cheftimusprime (04/16/2013) [-]
Oh dear, some butthurt is coming this way.
Oh dear, some butthurt is coming this way.
User avatar #756 to #751 - byposted (04/16/2013) [-]
Libturd on Constitution: "lol who cares about those dumb old papers, just made by some dead old white men we're diverse now"

Compare to...

Libturd Christurd on the Bible: "lol who cares about those dumb old papers just made by some dead old bigots ill just be christian in spirit the bible is for old people"
#772 to #756 - cheftimusprime (04/16/2013) [-]
Well if you wanna get down to it, the bible is a book, written by me, claiming it to be the word of god.  It was written in a time of little to no understanding and it promotes fear in a deity that isn't even proven to exist.  I am very much pro constitution, everything that's been happening in this last decade or so to remove our constitutional rights is appalling.  Now, if I have to live my life with Christians and other religions, I'd much rather you guys actually stop being bigoted assholes, which I know not all of you are, but there is a good number and actually love people and leave the judgement of their sins to your god, like those dumb old papers told you to.
Well if you wanna get down to it, the bible is a book, written by me, claiming it to be the word of god. It was written in a time of little to no understanding and it promotes fear in a deity that isn't even proven to exist. I am very much pro constitution, everything that's been happening in this last decade or so to remove our constitutional rights is appalling. Now, if I have to live my life with Christians and other religions, I'd much rather you guys actually stop being bigoted assholes, which I know not all of you are, but there is a good number and actually love people and leave the judgement of their sins to your god, like those dumb old papers told you to.
User avatar #789 to #772 - byposted (04/16/2013) [-]
I made the argument that your "atheist-approved," if you will, denomination of Christianity, if spread, would put the religion's life in peril. You responded in trance by spewing typical atheist rhetoric (eg. "bigot, hate, ilovebuttsex, flying spaghetti monster xd, fairy tale, etc.").

I believe my point has been made and stands at your response. By responding as such, your motives in agreeing with liberalized Christianity is because it would destroy, to your delight, the entire Catholic Church and its outlying sects.
User avatar #796 to #789 - cheftimusprime (04/16/2013) [-]
Oh if that's the argument, then I really have no rebuttle, I could care less if the religion floundered, and died. It'll just be replaced by another one, like they always are.
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