Anti-Feminist. . THESE was nun manta Mm. poking the dragon with excalibur eh? Anti-Feminist THESE was nun manta Mm poking the dragon with excalibur eh?
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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#1 - teranin
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(04/11/2013) [-]
poking the dragon with excalibur eh?
#14 to #1 - maofever
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#3 to #1 - tazze
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******* excalibur man
#5 to #3 - chevelleguy
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User avatar #2 - stallwallwriter
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"My dad was a feminist"
"Really? What about your mum?"
"Oh no, dad would never have let her."
#7 - apatheticalcare **User deleted account**
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#17 to #7 - anon id: 8db88ac9
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... And that's the Australian Prime Minister.
#6 - anon id: b3687106
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Patriarchy is a system that exists solely to benefit men at the expense of women!

Patriarchy hurts men too!

These co-exist how? If it was a system developed specifically to benefit men that would have been improved in iterations over the millions of years it was in place, HOW THE **** COULD IT HURT MEN? People who believe in patriarchy are ******* insufferable morons.

"Women and children first" - sure as **** sounds like female oppression to me!
User avatar #8 to #6 - youarenotspecial
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It's a system that benefits "ideal" males. Break the social "norms" (i.e. wear pink, show emotions, want children, or express anything stereotypically "feminine") then it harms you.
User avatar #13 to #8 - simplygabriele
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Even then it hardly benefits the man. He'd have all of the responsibility for all aspects of life and the pressures would be enormous. It removes all personal responsibility and puts it all on the "man of the family". For example - you wife goes mental and stabs someone - you go to jail. A man would have nothing but himself to rely on, for both emotional and financial support.

Also, patriarchy would not discourage men from wanting to have kids, just from being "motherly" and emotionally involved in their growth and day to day problems.
User avatar #18 to #13 - youarenotspecial
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Well, exactly. No one can be the picture of perfect. Why do you think so many men are afraid to show emotions or are ridiculed for it, for example?

To be honest, I don't really see your point. I strongly believe that anyone in a marriage should be prepared should their partner leave in anyway.

And it sucking for everyone is kind of the point I'm making. If a man gets raped or abused, he's even more likely to keep quiet than a woman because it's a "woman's issue." He's supposed to be strong- stronger than a woman. All aspects of inherit physical strength aside, abuse can happen to anyone.
And if a man wears womans clothes? Oh jesus no. If a woman wears mans clothes? No one gives a **** because the woman isn't "degrading herself" like the man is.
User avatar #19 to #18 - simplygabriele
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The point was that such a system does not really exist and has never existed, especially to the point that feminists claim. Sure, there are and have been sexist aspects of our social and cultural life, and they've swung both ways. Nowadays most of the anti-women sexism, especially institutionalized sexism, is gone (in the "western' world, at least). But the aspects that benefit women remain. In the same way, men have lost their favoritism, while some harsh remnants of anti male sexism remain. Of course, those come more in a form of "what's cool" and what's considered a success, rather than what you MUST do.Except for the draft, that is.
And the point about marriage was that, for example, in a patriarchal society a man is considered a complete loser and a disappointment if he can't adequately support his family and it does not matter if it's really his fault. His wife in that case bears no societal pressures. She's just a poor woman who happened to be married to a loser (not her choice or fault), someone to feel sad about. She's not expected to be self supporting, no way. The only possible way for a woman to have her own income in a patriarchy is to be a widow or inherit her parent's wealth.

And female rape would be a man's problem - it's his honor, his family, pretty much his property that is damaged.

But you seem to be looking at a warped image of today's society, that only has these passing specks of sexist prejudices. I was talking about situations in the past and the general idea of what patriarchy would be (and what feminist claim it was and still is).

User avatar #20 to #19 - youarenotspecial
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I think we can agree that it's something that would hurt men and woman, but we disagree to how much actually exist. Granted, sexism has died down since the "housewife" era, but that doesn't mean it has disappeared.

I think you missed my point about the rape. I meant that society looks at rape as a "woman's issue." Partly that's because it happens mostly to woman, but there is a huge stigma surrounding it. Why should it affect his or anyone's honor? It does in today's world, but it shouldn't. It's not a dishonor if someone gets murdered, so why rape? Especially with men.
User avatar #21 to #20 - simplygabriele
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I agree. And the dishonor part, especially the whole lot about bringing dishonor to the family and what not, is mostly an issue that was in the past. But I agree that rape in today's society has this huge bubble of ******** around it. From one side there are people who try to do a sort of slut shaming, especially if the girl was drunk and then used as a sex toy. On the other side there are feminazis and other over the board PC people who claim stuff like watching porn or making catcalls equals as rape.

And, of course, there's to whole area of male rape or sexual assault that is widely ignored. I do think though, that it's so pushed aside because of the whole myth that men are such horndogs. So horny and sex oriented that they MUST like sex in whatever circumstance it comes in. And that's the biggest fairytale of today, in my opinion. I honestly believe that mentally and emotionally men and women have a lot less differences than society likes to portray. Simply because the vast majority of men don't ever report or talk about their sexual assaults does not mean they're not as hurt as women are.
But I'm going on a tirade again, so I'll just stop here.

#9 to #8 - anon id: b3687106
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Why would men develop a system to only benefit one type of male? What kind of a ****** system would that be for benefiting men?
User avatar #10 to #9 - youarenotspecial
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Because tradition states that men "should' be strong, heads of the households. Yes, it's ******* dumb, but so is any other kind of "ism."

You can't honestly tell me that men won't be ridiculed if they act "feminine" in any way.
#11 to #10 - anon id: b3687106
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Men are ridiculed no matter what men do. If Jesus Christ was real and alive today, women would ridicule him.
User avatar #12 to #11 - youarenotspecial
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Everyone is ridiculed in some way. But there are certain things people can do that society doesn't like that will add to it.
User avatar #16 - aussieftw
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Not a single Kenji in the comments. Weird.
#15 - falconxmard
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User avatar #4 - chinosquad
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silly women...
jobs are for men!