Rome. Not op Rome actually was a badass town... Rome the best civilization that existed and then came the dark ages we lost na unbelivable amount of progress durring those times rome
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#1 - unihov
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Rome the best civilization that existed and then came the dark ages we lost na unbelivable amount of progress durring those times
#7 to #1 - trickytrickster
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The Dark Ages weren't as terrible as everyone always says. It's a misnomer. There were many inventions during the Dark Ages, there just isn't a lot of written history on it. Many amazing cathedrals, universities, and castles exist from those times.
#10 to #1 - anon id: 61872aef
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g'damn christians.
User avatar #3 to #1 - Whitenleaf
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It's really sad that so much technology was lost, and everyone blames Christianity. The truth is that the uncultured barbarians of surrounding people groups finally outnumbered the Romans enough to take over and dismantle many of the marvels (as well as killing the scholars, engineers, etc.)
#4 to #3 - anon id: fa08c1c1
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Shut the **** up
If it wasnt for christians i would be riding a flying car by now
User avatar #12 to #4 - neonblackkitty
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if it wasn't for Christians you would be living in a cave. the Church PRESERVED science and knowledge! read a damn history book.
#20 to #12 - unihov
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Then why the hell was resarch of anykind banned by the church, and only they were allowed to do anykind of research?
User avatar #21 to #20 - neonblackkitty
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Because during that time there a LOT of people claiming to be scientists, which were really just scam artists. Take Alchemy for instance. Yes the Church made some **** ups (earth is not center of universe stuff) but they kept a lot of the discoveries preserved.
#22 to #21 - unihov
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With alchemy muslims discoverd gunpowder. Your turn.
User avatar #24 to #22 - neonblackkitty
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Honestly, there are a lot of things that the Church has done wrong - the myth of stopping the progress of scientific discovery in the dark ages is just that, a MYTH.
After the barbarians invaded Europe and Rome went the way of the dinosaurs, the Catholic church was the last remaining aspect of Roman culture in Western Europe. The church went about setting up monasteries across Europe, and along with the monks came the monks' massive libraries. Monks were just about the only educated people in the early Middle Ages, and pretty much everything we know about this entire time period was written by them. - they started universities to further the progress of knowledge (Oxford, Cambridge, and the University of Paris, ect) brought Europe into CONTACT with the Muslim world (wow, good thing about that gunpowder, right?)
User avatar #23 to #22 - neonblackkitty
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read a book called Alchemy to Atoms by Newcomb & Kenny to goes into great detail about the falsehoods of alchemy and people claiming to be able to turn rocks into gold and what not.
#25 to #23 - unihov
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Yes they started universites but who could study in them rich people and the priests that meant lets say 500(probably too high) new educated every year in whole europe. The poor were kept uneducated beacuse when you have education you start asking questions. Leaders didn't want that.
User avatar #26 to #25 - neonblackkitty
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While that may or may not be true - the same holds true today and no fault to the church.
#27 to #26 - unihov
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Well we're not rich and i can go to college just fine.
#5 - seenenoughhentai
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Whenever I read about the amazing technological advancements of the Greeks and Romans, I always get really angry. If the Catholic church hadn't prohibited and banned the culture and technology of the ancient world during the dark ages, we'd be hundreds, maybe even thousands of years ahead in terms of intellect and technology. I'm not bashing on Christians as a whole, since I'm a Catholic myself, I'm just saying that banning all this awesome stuff and preaching that the poor man is the better man was a really dumb move.
User avatar #11 to #5 - neonblackkitty
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Don't be silly. The Church PRESERVED much of the scientific discoveries of the day, funded more, and even promoted technology.
#6 to #5 - trickytrickster
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You need to study up on your history. The "Dark Ages" is a term that isn't used as much by scholars because it is so inaccurate. There were many inventions during the dark ages.
User avatar #8 to #5 - fitchy
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actually throughout a lot of the ancient era, the church funded scientific research quite regularly. Only the topics, such as the round world theory and the geocentrism theory were looked as blasphemous (along with some more that went against common religious belief.)
User avatar #2 - mitchthehugeman
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If I had a time machine, this would probably be my first stop
#17 - littlemanchild
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>implying progress
>still believing in human superiority over nature and cultural arrogance
>le meme face
#16 - anon id: d9541e3a
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Rome also had a massive amount of mineral resources, producing ~82,000 tons of iron, 15,000 tons of copper, 80,000 tons of lead, 200 tons of silver and 9 tons of gold each year, many of which were the largest amounts collected by any society preindustrially.
User avatar #13 - wildmythos
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Pretty cool
Here's a small history lesson: (This is mainly from memory of books I read whilst re-searching, If i missed any details or got any wrong, corrections are appreciated.)
fun fact: Christmas was a Catholic attempt to cover up the worship of Sol Invictus' birthday (the unconquerable sun god)
fun fact: Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the earth using sticks and shadows in the 3rd century BC.
fun fact: Aristarchus of Samos (3rd century BC.) was the first to propose evidence of our heliocentric solar system.
Enter the Dark Ages shortly after everyone gets ****** by barbarians:
Holy Roman Empire is created
Religious oppression
Fast forward to the Middle ages
Crusades: people from Western Europe wanting to join in travel through Constantinople and the surrounding Byzantine Empire (the remnants of the Eastern Roman Empire)
knowledge is gained once again and is taken back to Western Europe by veterans and the like.
this knowledge kick-starts the early stages of the Renaissance.
people begin to question things again
fast forward to the 16th century:
Copernicus says "What if the earth orbits the sun?"
Church says "what if your wife orbits my dick?!?" (or something else with hostility)
User avatar #14 to #13 - wildmythos
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around a 2000 year gap to get things back on track.
#15 to #14 - contacta
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User avatar #18 to #15 - wildmythos
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I wouldn't say "Christian oppression" given the fact that Byzantium was widely an Orthodox Christian empire. They focused more on trade and growth (I think) rather than oppressing other religions. I would go as far as to call it Catholic oppression.
User avatar #19 to #18 - contacta
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guess i can agree on that part as far as i know especially the catholic church hunted those who wanted to take science further...
User avatar #9 - thepastryistrue
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The population fact is partly wrong. Baghdad had 1 million residents in the 12th century.