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just clarifying, in christianity the "teacher" is there... but oh well... prepared for the red thumbs from atheists
So the "teacher" is a obviously flawed and contradictory story of "gods word" that was written by men? That's like reading the book "I like to poop" in kindergarten and calling it scientific genius. Or a college physics professor with an associates degree in knitting.
So the first chapters of the bible were horrid and god was horrid and did horrid things, but now because we only read the new testament and worship the new god, things are different? Does that make sense to you?
Do you look at a history textbook and skip to the american revolution just because you dont like history before that point?
Do you look at a history textbook and skip to the american revolution just because you dont like history before that point?
As I said in a post farther down.
Faith is belief without evidence, by definition.
Science is Fact based on overwhelming evidence.
So the teacher in your case, would be an invisible teacher, with an nonexistant voice, that you HOPE is there, saying something, that you just cannot hear....even tho all your other classmates are out at recess.
Faith is belief without evidence, by definition.
Science is Fact based on overwhelming evidence.
So the teacher in your case, would be an invisible teacher, with an nonexistant voice, that you HOPE is there, saying something, that you just cannot hear....even tho all your other classmates are out at recess.
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N. Korean citizen (02/28/2013) [-]
Just to add on the "book of contradictions," slight contradiction in certain cases is a good thing. One man wrote in the bible (don't ask me if it was John, or Luke, or whoever because I won't pretend to know specifically who) that his account of Jesus healing the cripple was healing one cripple. Another man who contributed to the bible claimed it was two men that Jesus helped.
This doesn't mean that either are wrong, but that the man who wrote about one cripple only wrote of what he remembers as being the more significant of the two. This contradiction between how many were healed can help the historical accuracy of the bible, because although the details of how many is different, we know multiple people saw it, and that they CLEARLY did not corroborate.
In a court of law, when two witnesses have the exact same story, lawyers will immediately say "They got together to get their story straight! Their credibility is shot!!"
The fact of the matter is that there is evidence.
This doesn't mean that either are wrong, but that the man who wrote about one cripple only wrote of what he remembers as being the more significant of the two. This contradiction between how many were healed can help the historical accuracy of the bible, because although the details of how many is different, we know multiple people saw it, and that they CLEARLY did not corroborate.
In a court of law, when two witnesses have the exact same story, lawyers will immediately say "They got together to get their story straight! Their credibility is shot!!"
The fact of the matter is that there is evidence.
Based on my own experience, I would describe faith as belief in a specific outcome of uncertainty. I mean we can have faith that someone will succeed even if the odds are against it, or have faith to roll two dices and get 12 point. Extracreditz did a good video on faith www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2Vx9qoLzFs
Now about the picture. Teach is the God and the books are various interpretations and religious texts that contradict each other.
Now about the picture. Teach is the God and the books are various interpretations and religious texts that contradict each other.
There is a difference between Faith, and Belief.
Faith, is belief WITHOUT evidence.
Belief is similar to theory or hypothesis, its an idea with a little evidence to support it, but nowhere near enough to prove it as fact.
There is a chance that a belief can be proven scientifically, but it is nearly impossible to prove personal faith, by scientific standards....because personal faith is just that, personal. most "god" experiences cannot be repeated in a laboratory, or seen by others, or heard, or felt...which makes it impossible to prove.
Am I saying its wrong? Maybe, Just like the teacher analogy, you can hope he's there, and hope he's teaching or speaking, but you have a high probability of missing out on recess. (aka life)
Faith, is belief WITHOUT evidence.
Belief is similar to theory or hypothesis, its an idea with a little evidence to support it, but nowhere near enough to prove it as fact.
There is a chance that a belief can be proven scientifically, but it is nearly impossible to prove personal faith, by scientific standards....because personal faith is just that, personal. most "god" experiences cannot be repeated in a laboratory, or seen by others, or heard, or felt...which makes it impossible to prove.
Am I saying its wrong? Maybe, Just like the teacher analogy, you can hope he's there, and hope he's teaching or speaking, but you have a high probability of missing out on recess. (aka life)
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N. Korean citizen (02/28/2013) [-]
Technically a "theory" doesnt fit here. In science a theory has tons of evidence and is accepted as something as close to "fact" as you can get. A hypothesis is an idea, a theory is a reinforced widely accepted hypothesis that is in all sense correct. Theoretical and Theory have very little relation to one another, Theory has never implied little evidence.
I really don't feel like I'm missing life... I am driven by something and that helps me get through problems. I still drink (not heavily) and go do stupid stuff with friends, most of my friends are atheists and I go and do everything with them, we just have different beliefs but we still all have tons of fun.