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An inspiration to us all. If this gets enough thumbs, I'll tell the story of each of the five times my dad was arrested in college.. I would like to tell the st

If this gets enough thumbs, I'll tell the story of each of the five times my dad was arrested in college.

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I would like to tell the story of my father, one of
the most awesome people I know. He was born
with autism, but despite this he excelled in school
for one single reason, a reason that he would tell
no one. Against all odds, he was named
Valedictorian of his graduating class, He proudly
took the stage, clasped the microphone in his
hands, and proclaimed "Before I start my speech,
I would like to address a serious issue that is
gripping our country: California Hot Tub Rectal
His microphone was quickly
unplugged and he was removed from the stage,
His diploma was sent to him in the mail, And that
is the single reason why my dad strove to do his
best in school,
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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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User avatar #1 - vatra
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Don't be a thumb whore just tell us the other stories.
User avatar #2 to #1 - chuffberry [OP]
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first time: him and his friend were on shrooms. they were arrested for stripping naked, painting themselves like african hunters, and running around residential communities spearing trashcans with handmade spears
User avatar #3 to #2 - vatra
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Nice, though, are you sure he has autism? It really doesn't sound like it.
User avatar #4 to #3 - chuffberry [OP]
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yes, but he's on the high functioning end. actually, i'm the only person in my family who doesn't have autism.
User avatar #9 to #4 - nandaaz
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Are you sure about that?
#12 to #9 - theinvisibletheift
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#37 to #12 - anon id: c43c6154
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d'awww
User avatar #5 to #4 - vatra
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Interesting.
User avatar #254 to #2 - repostforlife
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so, are you ever going to post more on this. been 2 years
User avatar #255 to #254 - chuffberry [OP]
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meh
#185 to #2 - bigmanfifty
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that is ******* awesome
#43 - weenieandthebutt
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Am I the only one who's more impressed by the fact that a person with autism gets laid rather than them actually excelling in academia? I mean, being book smart is expected of them due to their enhanced cognitive ability and lack of social distractions whereas for love/getting-laid part, women are absolutely repulsed by guys who are completely socially awkward and inept.
Am I the only one who's more impressed by the fact that a person with autism gets laid rather than them actually excelling in academia? I mean, being book smart is expected of them due to their enhanced cognitive ability and lack of social distractions whereas for love/getting-laid part, women are absolutely repulsed by guys who are completely socially awkward and inept.
#67 to #43 - vipersixtyfour
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In one of the cases I could think of, since the autist is probably intelligent enough to get a high paying job, the woman learns he makes a lot of money and wants in on it. Just a thought.
In one of the cases I could think of, since the autist is probably intelligent enough to get a high paying job, the woman learns he makes a lot of money and wants in on it. Just a thought.
User avatar #200 to #67 - autist
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My job is pretty ******.
#50 to #43 - dotasaurus
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Alot of kids with autism arent taught about sex because their "mind is too immature"...and some women take advantage of this strictly for child support. Disgusting...but it happens, ask my brother in law.
User avatar #77 to #43 - srskate
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You evaluation is only true for functional autism, which his dad appears to have.
#89 to #43 - anon id: da950e1b
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Autism does not necessarily mean Asperger's Syndrome, which is what I think you must be thinking of when you say "enhanced cognitive ability". Asperger's is a type of autism that may produce the savant-like characteristics you might be talking about. Regular Autism does not necessarily produce "enhanced cognitive ability" as you say. They have a mental disorder like any other person and can work hard to live with it.
#168 to #89 - creepyunclebob
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That's... completely untrue. Asperger's is basically a mild form of autism that's distinct enough to have its own designation. Savantism is as rare in people on the autistic spectrum as genius is for neurotypicals.
#135 to #43 - bobmarles
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#187 to #43 - rdangerdash
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River from To The Moon has autism. Didn't stop that game from being pretty much the most romantic thing ever.
User avatar #189 to #43 - chuffberry [OP]
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OP here. actually, i'm the only person in my family without autism. my mom and brother have it, too.
User avatar #51 to #43 - Noah
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He could have had a high functioning form of Autism, people like that can be almost completely normal.
User avatar #55 to #51 - ritsuka
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>.> hey there
User avatar #57 to #55 - Noah
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Sup?
User avatar #59 to #57 - ritsuka
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oh, noting much, just browsing FJ
User avatar #60 to #59 - Noah
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Nice, it's good for you
User avatar #62 to #60 - ritsuka
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yup
well, i'll leave you to browsing
User avatar #63 to #62 - Noah
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Ok, have fun
I love you
User avatar #64 to #63 - ritsuka
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love you too
User avatar #113 to #64 - archercarac
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Ladies and gentlemen of FJ, what you just saw was the exact steps to getting a girlfriend/boyfriend. That feel when no gf? Just do what these perfect beings just did.
User avatar #192 to #113 - Noah
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Am I alpha now?
User avatar #220 to #192 - archercarac
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No, for a true alpha decides when he is alpha, and does not leave that decision for his peers to make.
User avatar #221 to #220 - Noah
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Ok.
User avatar #222 to #221 - archercarac
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You are just so fresh...
User avatar #223 to #222 - Noah
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Nah, I just decided that I'm too alpha to talk to you.

Gotta be fresh.
User avatar #227 to #223 - archercarac
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Right in the heart...
#170 to #113 - creepyunclebob
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>.> hey there
User avatar #193 to #170 - Noah
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Hey friend.
#76 to #43 - fallenstrawberry
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Have you considered that they're people too and just because you have autism doesn't mean you're **********? I know a few people with autism and they live perfectly normal lives for the most part. I didn't even know my one friend had it until his dad told me several years after meeting him. It's not like they're retarded.
User avatar #93 to #76 - weenieandthebutt
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Some people are just good at hiding it (or others are just oblivious to it). No woman wants to breed with a man who has a form of autism and it's unfortunately one of the most stigmatising disorders there is.
User avatar #82 to #76 - lilmoka
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Most people never realize i have Autism until i tell them.
User avatar #81 to #43 - lilmoka
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I have autism and i have a serious boyfriend. Were getting married next May.
So you could say its the other way around....
Inb4 we dont give a ****.
#87 to #81 - ybigballz
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that is because a desperate man will take ANYTHING
User avatar #84 to #81 - weenieandthebutt
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We all know that anyone girl can get ****** as long as they have a vag. Just take Honey Boo Boo's mum for example.
#83 to #43 - jaisharha
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My partner is autistic, I find him pretty damn attractive. Sure he is a little strange at times but being awkward does not rule out actually being a good person. Plus the autism frequently does lead to excellence in academia as you say and that can be pretty damn attractive. You also forgot, autism doesn't lead to physical defects so he may be a social retard but he could be the sexiest man in the world and I think most women could get past a little thing like actually being able to communicate, I mean ****, some find fabio attractive.
#108 to #83 - atlasandpbody
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*All find Fabio attractive. I mean, look at that flowing hair!
#217 to #108 - jaisharha
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It is a glorious glorious mane, so lush and vibrant, truly an inspiration. Tis the accent that gets me.
#90 to #83 - weenieandthebutt
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Being a nice person alone doesn't guarantee you to get laid or find love. For my situation, I've been called goodlooking and hot by a few girls but not never attractive since I'm a bit socially awkward and quirky myself. If what you're saying is true, please tell me where I can find more 'tolerant' women such as yourself!!!
Being a nice person alone doesn't guarantee you to get laid or find love. For my situation, I've been called goodlooking and hot by a few girls but not never attractive since I'm a bit socially awkward and quirky myself. If what you're saying is true, please tell me where I can find more 'tolerant' women such as yourself!!!

#216 to #90 - jaisharha
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Sorry, not actually a tolerant woman on the net, just a fag. But considering everything I tried when I was trying to convince myself I was straight... honestly that kinda tolerance doesn't seem to come from women very much. Sorry if that's insulting to anyone but it''s been my experience, quirky seems to make them run and hide. If anyone evidence otherwise please do correct me, I would like to be able to think otherwise.
#112 to #43 - ilgattozaiga
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Not all autistic people are like that, only really a handful. Some might be of average intelligence and some might find it really hard to even string a sentence together. Autism has a large spectrum and sometimes you might not even notice a person's autistic because it'd be a mild case, so it's possible to have a person with autism who's attractive but maybe has some behavioural problems or can even be fine socially.
#118 to #112 - weenieandthebutt
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Doesn't matter whether they're decent looking but neither learning difficulties nor the inability to socially adapt are attractive qualities. Natural Selection simply does not favour people with any form of mental disability. I don't make the rules here.
Doesn't matter whether they're decent looking but neither learning difficulties nor the inability to socially adapt are attractive qualities. Natural Selection simply does not favour people with any form of mental disability. I don't make the rules here.
#121 to #118 - ilgattozaiga
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Very true, but in the society we live in there are people who may be able to sympathise with and possibly be attracted to the person. Natural Selection indeed doesn't favour those with disabilities, but sometimes all it takes is one person.
User avatar #128 to #121 - weenieandthebutt
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Pity and sympathy are COMPLETELY separate from sexual attraction. Attraction is that love you genuinely feel inside and not something that's fuelled by your 'guilt' or 'sorrow'. Maybe friendship can sometimes be established from sympathy but with relationships, no one is obliged to date a person just because they 'feel sorry for them'.
#56 to #43 - zionsype
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It's simple
It's simple
#16 - notsureiffunny
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I have a theory that the only reason that autistic people excel in education is because they have social problems, not more innate intelligence. They are merely less or not distracted by friends, and trying to summon up the balls to talk to Sally with the nice ass sitting in the next row.
User avatar #41 to #16 - actinglead
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as a person with serious autism... i am currently one of the best in my classes. but it is not because i am distracted by friends or that kind of thing. i do worry about making friends, but i dont have ability to make them. I do worry about summoning the balls to talk to other people, no matter who they are, even if they someone i like.
User avatar #65 to #16 - EdwardNigma
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Actually, the social problems can cause massive stress, as I've found. It's pretty ****, usually it doesn't get to me, but, most people with Autism excel not at everything in school, but seemingly, they are incredibly good at one specific subject. Theres a guy in England I think who knows a **** ton of languages, he can learn whole languages very quickly, and hes autistic. I excel at history and video games. People with Autism, or maybe it's just me, have a strange way of thinking, I imagine it to be different from others. Whether it be an odd way of doing a math problem or saying things completely nonsensical to most but to the autistic person saying it, it makes perfect sense. I feel like that all the time, no one else knows what I'm saying or trying to say, but I understand perfectly.

Anyway, the social problems have for me caused massive stress in the past but like I said, I tend to ignore it. And these aren't run of the mill social problems, I can't look people in the eye and I constantly **** up sentences. Also, large amounts of people and noise make me incredibly nervous, because if someone talks to me, I won't know what to say, I never have time to think of what I'm going to say, so I **** it up. This inability to communicate is a massive weight because I can never get the courage or find the words to ask for help when somethings wrong with me. To most it's a simple "Hey, I need help" but for me, I just can't do it, I ******* suck.

TL;DR, Autistic people often excel at one thing like painting or learning languages, but the social problems aren't a simple thing, they are ******* awful.
User avatar #96 to #65 - godofal
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spot on, one thing to add:
[People with Autism, or maybe it's just me, have a strange way of thinking]

i always explain that as this: people with autism have a more logical (mathematical) approach to things, "normal" people have a more emotional approach to things
when **** gets unlogical (random noises for example) it gets confusing because your mind cant quite figure out what's going on or what to focus on

and i feel you man, i've painstakingly learned to communicate with people at a decent level but i still don't feel like i can find the perfect words for saying **** half of the time, so much just stays unsaid because of that
thats part of the reason i like the internet and text chat so much: you can take your time to find the right words and edit **** when you think of something better

people with autism are just uncompatible with the rest of the world, it sucks but we're the minority and cant do anything but try to deal with it to the best of our capabilities

it feels *really* weird talking like that btw, "we" and "our" and stuff like that
#72 to #65 - monsieurtimeywimey
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yup.
yup.
yup.
I was going to add something, but this is the most complete description I've seen in awhile, thumb for you.

Just btw, my thing is math.
^
\ everyone else's face when I try to ad-lib something:
User avatar #22 to #16 - monsieurtimeywimey
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As a high funtioning autistic I call bs on that. Those social problems distract a great deal (Read: we tend to **** up more socially, and it causes stress)
User avatar #32 to #22 - spyisspy
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i know some autistics, i agree
#58 to #22 - anon id: 84676246
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I could call myself a high functioning autistic..but i'm not, I'm just awkward. Get over yourself.
#70 to #58 - monsieurtimeywimey
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Trust me, I'm very over myself.
(I'm really just looking for an excuse to use this picture)
#38 to #22 - anon id: e6b42d48
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You're not autistic. You're just a socially awkward asshole and probably an only child.
User avatar #66 to #38 - monsieurtimeywimey
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Hell if I know. A psychologist told me I was autistic, and I didn't really bother to ask "are you sure?"
I figured he had his **** together.
#100 to #66 - anon id: 0857e49b
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Psychologists tend to just knee-jerk diagnose things way too early, the second they hear one or two signs. Its the equivalent of a doctor hearing that you have a cough and a fever and diagnosing it as a cold/flu when it really could be, I don't know, aids or something.

When I was young they diagnosed me with ADHD, when in reality I was just really bored talking to a psychologist and lost interest. ADHD seems to be the "go to" diagnosis, and some psychologists even dispute the legitimacy of its existence.
User avatar #147 to #100 - ericzxvc
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It's sorta funny that you're ******** on psychologists when you just diagnosed him over two words.
User avatar #40 to #38 - abiku
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One of my classmates growing up was autistic- very obviously not just socially awkward, at that- and it caused lots of stress for him, the social issues he dealt with. He was also extraordinarily smart, even in a 'gifted' class considered more intelligent. Not just book-smart. Maybe, just MAYBE, its actually a characteristic that frequently comes with high-functioning autism.
#26 to #22 - poeg
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^this
#68 - anon id: 44a335d0
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Didnt read :|
#80 to #68 - freshbakedrolls
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User avatar #101 to #68 - majortomcomics
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Anon is black.
User avatar #74 to #68 - basham
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Shut up anon.
#79 to #74 - anon id: 604d1a08
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but... I read it... And I thought it was funny...
please love me?
User avatar #106 to #79 - majortomcomics
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no.
#102 - justagame
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A true inspiration
#99 - omgroflzomg
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There be a ********* a-brewing below me.
There be a ********* a-brewing below me.
#164 to #99 - fodrizzler
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I did not heed your warning.   
   
In the hopes you shall forgive me, take this thumb.
I did not heed your warning.

In the hopes you shall forgive me, take this thumb.
#14 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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I hate mentally disabled people. They're so ******* useless. I'm talking about the hardcore kind, not the people with slight OCD or something problems. I'm only talking about the hard core mentally disabled. They're all leeches and parasites. They leech off of everyone around them. They can never live on their own, someone always has to take care of them, and they'll never have a job. They're a burden to everyone around them. All they do is take and give absolutely nothing in return. They can never be a productive member of society.
User avatar #39 to #14 - misterbonzo
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yeah, because they chose to be disabled.
#47 to #39 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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I never said they did. This doesn't change the fact that they're a burden on society and completely useless.
User avatar #115 to #47 - misterbonzo
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yeah but you can't blame them for being disabled.
#120 to #115 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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No one's blaming them... I'm just stating a fact. They are useless and parasites.
#44 to #14 - tocoolforyouinajar
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How about no.
#49 to #14 - iamthedeigner
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User avatar #86 to #14 - lilmoka
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I know a kid who has severe Autism and he actually lives alone in an apartment next to his parents. He has a job and pays for his bills. He cant really speak or make friends but he is a great person and hes not a leech or parasite.
#91 to #86 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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... I'm not talking about those people. I specifically said the ones who CAN'T live on their own and get a job. But also the fact that he lives right next to his parents... how pathetic. What happens when they die? lol he's ******.
User avatar #31 to #14 - sweener
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I think you were born about 70 years too late.
User avatar #45 to #14 - abiku
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I don't hate people who are so mentally disabled, but I honestly think its a bad practice to be spending millions on people who will never be able to even understand what a dollar is. I also know I would not want to live like that. I imagine a large amount of heavily disabled people, if given lucidity for a short amount of time, would ask for death rather than continue 'living' like that.
I don't consider it murder, or cruelty- its mercy.
#78 to #45 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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Agreed, they're a waste of money, space, and resources. We should deny these parasites the benefits so many of them receive. They leech off the taxpayer-funded services. They are not rightfully entitled to them. These disability services are intended for people who worked and payed taxes and for what ever reason can no longer contribute. They're the ones who deserve the benefits, not the useless members of society. I'm an advocate of mercy killings, not just of the mentally disabled. If a loved one is in the hospital and in immense pain their family members should be able to pull the plug to put them out of that misery. It's the right thing to do.
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#69 to #14 - nicktheslayer
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I hate anons. They're so ******* useless. I'm talking about the hardcore kind, not the people with who forgot to log in or something problems. I'm only talking about the hard core anonymous. They're all leeches and parasites. They leech off of everyone around them. They can never post on their own, someone always has to give them something to complain about, and they'll never have an account. They're a burden to everyone around them. All they do is bitch and give absolutely no constructive responses in return. They can never be a productive member of society.
User avatar #17 to #14 - doctorhitmarker
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It's not exactly their fault they have a disability now is it?
#25 to #17 - tyroneisanigger
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That's a common mistake most people make. It is not a disability, it is simply a disorder. A disorder causes minor impairments in some way or another that can be adapted around. The definition of disability, as explained to me by a doctor when we found out I have Asperger's, was mainly anything that is a lifelong impairment that will be very difficult, or impossible to adapt and cope with. For Asperger's Disorder, it is poor social skills, which take it from me (because I have it), social skills can be learned. I just developed them later in life when most kids my age developed them earlier on. I'd say I have overcome my social anxiety and my inability to recognize facial expression, another common temporary impairment for Asperger's DIsorder.
Now you know the difference between disability and disorder.
User avatar #28 to #25 - Ruspanic
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I don't think they're talking about autism. Plenty of autistic people are high-functioning and productive.
Anon specified "I'm only talking about the hard core mentally disabled", by which he probably means severe mental retardation.
#46 to #28 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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That's exactly what I meant.
#119 to #46 - tyroneisanigger
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Ok Anon, what do you suggest we do with the population of them? Round them all up and kill them? Are you ******* from the 1950s? Then again even in the 1950s people weren't as stupid as you. I'm sure the mentally or physically disabled didn't choose to be that way, I'm sure they want to dress themselves, bath themselves and so forth.
Also, keep this hate talk up and karma might give you an offspring with a severe disability. You can just put him/her in an institution, but after it was looked into a little bit, government officials will recognize what an irresponsible parent you are and take your remaining children away, and possible your wife/girlfriend will leave you after giving away her child too. I hope karma gets you good, Anon. Don't confuse karma with "god", He isn't real, but karma sure as **** is.
#125 to #119 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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I suggest we do a mass killing yes. That or have the parent have an abortion beforehand. If I were ever to have a kid who was mentally disabled i'd put him up for adoption. But if I knew the kid was going to be a useless retard beforehand i'd have my wife or whatever get an abortion. I'd definitely have this conversation with my wife beforehand though. Before we even had kids I'd talk to her about my views on the mentally challenged and let her know I wouldn't want to keep it. We'd see what she has to say. No one said they chose to be that way, that doesn't change the fact that they still are that way and are useless none the less. The government won't take my other kids away because I put one up for adoption... that doesn't even make sense.
#130 to #125 - tyroneisanigger
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You keep mentioning that they are useless. There is federally funded programs out there that will talk to an employer and get a couple of people with disabilities hired. It may be a job under minimum wage, it may have little chance for promotion but it's still an occupation that doesn't make them "entirely" useless. I'd say most people with disabilities do go through some kind of program like that to get them a job. Also, if you ever wanted to start a business, and a disability program had contacted you about hiring one, you would be paid to hire them.
#136 to #130 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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That job would be better filled by a normal member of society. And **** all those programs they get. There's so many disability programs. We should deny these parasites the benefits so many of them receive. They leech off the taxpayer-funded services. They are not rightfully entitled to them. These disability services are intended for people who worked and payed taxes and for what ever reason can no longer contribute. They're the ones who deserve the benefits.
#145 to #136 - tyroneisanigger
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That's a good point, but so what if their application was filed by a contributing person to society? I'm unsure where you are going with that one.
#212 to #145 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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Some families with retarded kids get checks and ****. It's a disability check thing. They shouldn't get them is what i'm saying.
User avatar #18 to #17 - Leyf
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Well obviously it is not... But really, he does have a point.. There are pretty useless :|
User avatar #19 to #18 - Ruspanic
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They're individuals. They don't have a duty to be useful to others.
User avatar #107 to #19 - tehlulzbringer
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Then they shouldn't be allowed to waste precious air, food, and money

I would recommend euthanising them and using the corpses for science research.
User avatar #161 to #107 - Ruspanic
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It's not your place to "allow" them anything.
You have no more right to euthanize them than they do to euthanize you.
#213 to #161 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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They're a waste of resources is what he's saying, and he's right.
User avatar #215 to #213 - Ruspanic
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True, they don't give back the resources that are spent on them.
But I wouldn't call it a waste because I think the cause is worthwhile.
#218 to #215 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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The cause is not worthwhile what so ever. It's a complete waste. They're not worth it, those resources would be better spent on someone who would truly appreciate them.
User avatar #219 to #218 - Ruspanic
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You think the disabled can't appreciate and benefit from our efforts to take care of them?
#225 to #219 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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Exactly. They can't form a coherent thought and not possibly comprehend the things we do for them. But that's not even the point. The point is it's wasted on them because they can't possibly have a future.
User avatar #228 to #225 - Ruspanic
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What sort of hypothetical disabled people are you talking about here? They're not braindead.
#229 to #228 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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They don't have a functioning brain and can never make something out of their life. That's why it's wasted on them. I'm talking about the severely mentally challenged.
User avatar #230 to #229 - Ruspanic
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I'm not sure the people you're talking about actually exist, at least in any significant numbers. It sounds like you think we're throwing money at corpses.

There are plenty of people who are too mentally (or physically) impaired to be able to work or to "make something out of their life", but most of these people are still capable of having emotions and thoughts (albeit on a much simpler level than most). Their brain is severely impaired, but it's still functioning. The way they are treated will affect the quality and length of the life they experience.
#232 to #230 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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Ok I'm just going to be completely blunt and honest. I do not give a **** about their quality of life. Their life is meaningless. Wouldn't all this money we're throwing at them better serve someone who just needs to get back on his feet or something? Anything makes them happy... give the little retard a ******* candy bar and he'll have no worries in the world. I don't care if his brain functions or not, his existence serves no purpose.
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Your existence serves no purpose either.
People don't exist for your benefit, asshole.
#237 to #235 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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Ok first of all they're not really people like I've mentioned before. But I do serve a purpose actually. I'm going to college now (something they'll never do) and will get a job and actually make something useful out of my life. They never will.
User avatar #239 to #237 - Ruspanic
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Just because you don't call them people doesn't mean they aren't.

You assigned that purpose to your own life, it's not actually the reason you exist.

What about people with locked-in syndrome? They are absolutely paralyzed (except for their eyes, sometimes), and therefore cannot make anything out of their lives or contribute to society. They can't even communicate except by blinking.
However, they are awake and aware and have otherwise fully functioning minds.

Do you consider them human? Do you despise them as you do the mentally disabled? Do you think them "worthy" of receiving support?
#240 to #239 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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I'm an advocate of mercy killing. If I was ever in that situation I know I'd rather be killed than live like that. I'd be fine will mercy killing both of them.
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"Now let me ask you a question, what good does keeping them alive do? So we can say "Hey look we're good people! See?!""

It does them good, which is the whole point.
#253 to #252 - anon id: e78e0e66
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But why even waste our time on them is the whole point. What does doing them good achieve? So we can feel good about ourselves and have an emotional high or some ****? It's meaningless.
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"They take up a bed, medical supplies, and doctor time."
Yes they do. I'm asking if the expenditures are justified, in the case of locked-in syndrome people.

It doesn't matter whether you or I think someone else is "truly living". We have no authority to make such judgments about other people's lives. If their death is anyone's decision, it must be their own, insofar as they are able to make such a choice. (I'm talking specifically about euthanizing people here, not about refusing to pay for their healthcare, because that's not the same as actively killing someone.)

"Retards can't tell you if they want to live or not and it's impossible for us to allow them to"
It's impossible for us to allow them to live? What? No, it isn't.

It's not their fault they are mentally retarded, and it's also not their fault they are "leeches" since they didn't make the decision to be cared for at the taxpayer's expense (assuming that they are, of course, and that their families aren't paying). Your hatred for them is completely unwarranted.

And you didn't answer my question. Do you also hate physically disabled "leeches", like paralyzed people?
#250 to #248 - anon id: e78e0e66
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If they were born with locked-in syndrome than no. If they were once a productive member of society and had some kind of accident dealing massive damage to the brain and causing the locked-in syndrome than they should be taken care of.
And yeah that sentence was weird. I meant it's impossible for them to tell us if they want to live or not and it's impossible for us to find a way to let them tell us if they want to live or not.
No one's blaming them or saying it's their fault. This doesn't change the fact that they are leeches and retarded.
No I don't hate the physically disabled. For example, Stephen Hawkins is physically disabled and has many many scientific breakthroughs. As long as you have a working brain you're good. That and can communicate with others in some way be it a computer or what have you. Now let me ask you a question, what good does keeping them alive do? So we can say "Hey look we're good people! See?!"
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For many of them, you're probably right, and I think they have the right to commit suicide (or seek assisted suicide) if they want to. But not all of them want to.

Take a look: granted, this guy isn't totally paralyzed, but still has locked-in syndrome.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19340667

Anyway, the point was this: if you hate the mentally disabled because they're "leeches", shouldn't the same standards apply to anyone who takes but cannot give back?

Unless, of course you have some other reason for hating mentally retarded people specifically.
#247 to #245 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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They take up a bed, medical supplies, and doctor time. Also how can you even call that truly living? Retards can't tell you if they want to live or not and it's impossible for us to allow them to. I do hate retards because they are leeches. But they're also annoying as ****, but that's more of a personal level hatred.
User avatar #241 to #240 - Ruspanic
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You can make that decision for yourself, but not for others.
#243 to #241 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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I imagine a large amount of heavily disabled people, if given the ability to think clearly for a short amount of time, would ask for death rather than continue 'living' like that.
User avatar #20 to #19 - Leyf
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You're missing the point though. We use a lot of food, medical supplies, and materials on these people who in return will never re-contribute to society for what society has given to them. Get it?
User avatar #21 to #20 - monsieurtimeywimey
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I second that. I feel heartless saying it, but society would be better off without them.
User avatar #24 to #21 - Ruspanic
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Society would be better off without them, but that's unimportant. Individuals do not exist to serve or benefit society, society exists for the benefit of individuals.
"Society" is simply a faceless collective entity. It has no rights and is secondary in importance to the welfare of the individuals in it.
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I value a persons life as how much they can contribute to their society. A common criminal's life is not equal to a doctor's who has saved countless lives. I'd sacrifice the criminals life in a heart beat in order to save the doctor. The mentally challenged are useless and are nothing but parasites. If a person can not function in a society, they do not belong in that society. Their existence is meaningless and they contribute nothing. We should deny these parasites the benefits so many of them receive. They leech off the taxpayer-funded services. They are not rightfully entitled to them. These disability services are intended for people who worked and payed taxes and for what ever reason can no longer contribute. They're the ones who deserve the benefits, not the useless members of society.
#97 to #53 - anon id: 99e99494
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Gotta say, I dislike people like you who view others only as 'tools' which can only be valued by how much use they are to you or 'society' as you prefer to call it and if a 'tool' is no longer of use, you believe it is right for you to toss it away even though they were never yours to begin with, they have their own seperate identities.
#103 to #97 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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If they're not contributing anything back to the society they live in then they're just being a parasite. They're taking everything it has to offer and gives nothing in return.
User avatar #165 to #103 - Ruspanic
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It's not like they're stealing from you. Those programs are set up by non-disabled people to help the disabled. They're not entitled to receive those benefits, nor are you or your society entitled to receive their labor. But taking care of the least fortunate among us is an act of kindness and humanity that I feel is worthwhile and affordable.
Of course, charity is preferable to taxes in accomplishing these goals because charity is voluntary, but the government does have a duty to promote the general welfare and thus should have policies aimed at maintaining a minimal standard of living and supporting those who cannot support themselves.

It is an accident of chance that you were born with all your limbs and with full capacity of mind. Likewise it is their misfortune - not their fair and just punishment - that they are physically or mentally disabled.
#214 to #165 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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They are stealing from me actually. Ever since I started paying taxes they have been. My tax money should be going to help properly functioning member of societies, not some ******* retards. If I want to help the least fortunate I'd help the ones who actually have a future like the homeless or poor. They could actually profit from the help, a retard will always be a retard.
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If you think taxes are thievery, take it up with your government. The government is the one taking your money. Whoever happens to benefit from that money are not themselves thieves.

You're free to spend your own money as you wish, and donate it to whatever charities you want. When you pay taxes, you lose control over how that money is spent and who it benefits, except indirectly by voting for legislators. Most of the money you pay to the government is not going to benefit you directly, and a lot of it will go to programs or people you do not support. That's just how taxes work.
#233 to #231 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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I'm perfectly fine with my tax money going to help others. Just not those creatures. I don't even want to call them humans. Humans have a developed brain, they do not. They're some sub humanoid species more like it.
User avatar #234 to #233 - Ruspanic
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Then you're a massive ******* cunt with an irrational hatred for the disabled and a willful ignorance of basic biology.

Do you also hate children, whose brains are not developed to full capacity? What about animals?
#236 to #234 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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Kids will one day develop a fully capable brain, a ******* retarded subhuman will not. And yeah I do not consider animals human either... but that goes without saying...
User avatar #238 to #236 - Ruspanic
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There's no such thing as a subhuman, that's a term people like you use to make themselves feel superior. And I didn't ask if you thought animals were human, I asked it you hated them as you do the mentally disabled.
#242 to #238 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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Subhuman is a word, it's in the dictionary.
1. less than or not quite human.
2. almost human.

They have the mental capacity of animals. Actually I don't even know about that... at least some monkeys can learn sign language and use tools.
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The word has no objective or scientific meaning. There's no such thing as "less than" or "almost" human. One is either human or not. It's indisputable that mentally disabled people are biologically human.

You don't have to be in a vegetative state to require intensive full-time care. Let's suppose you're only talking about profound mental retardation, which represents an IQ below 20-25 and is the most severe level in medical classification of retardation.
"They may be able to develop basic self-care and communication skills with appropriate support and training."
medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Profound+mental+retardation
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If we could put all of them on an island and completely separate them from the general public then I could care less. Just get them out of society. Get them the **** away from me and everyone else. Let them have a retarded "society" there. And i'm using the word society very loosely.
#246 to #244 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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They're definitely less than normal people. You believe someone with profound mental retardation is equal to a doctor who has saved many lifes? He's not. At all.
User avatar #249 to #246 - Ruspanic
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You are talking about utilitarian value. I am talking about biological reality, natural rights, and humane treatment. Completely different and unrelated things.

Mental retardation is an accident. Sometimes it's an accident of heredity, but more often it's an accident caused by environmental agents inside and outside the womb that affect development. Meaning that you could as easily have been born with or developed severe mental disabilities. Your rights in this case are affected only to the extent that you become less able to exercise them: you are not less deserving of rights, and you certainly don't deserve contempt from the more fortunate majority.

Here is a hypothetical question for you: If you could magically provide for the mentally disabled, enable them to live happy and reasonably long lives WITHOUT any extra expenditure of time and resources on society's part, would you do it?
#224 to #20 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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Exactly. They can't form a coherent thought and not possibly comprehend the things we do for them. But that's not even the point. The point is it's wasted on them because they can't possibly have a future.
#226 to #224 - anon id: 4bb98e3f
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ignore this. Replied to wrong comment.
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They give people job's, don't they? They don't ask for the help, people do it cause that's what they want to do in life.
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Well, yes. And we should, in my opinion. That's why we have social safety nets. Hell, that's why we have society at all - so that individuals can have a higher quality of life and achieve greater success than they'd be able to on their own.

The nice thing about capitalism is that it achieves societal progress without really intending to. In such a system everyone seeks primarily to advance their own self-interest, and they're better off because of their own efforts, which also indirectly contributes to the betterment of society. So individuals benefit from their own labor (an option that disabled people do not have), and everyone benefits from everyone's collective pursuit of happiness.
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I never said it was their fault. They're still useless and a burden on society.
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My dad may not be that awesome, but at least he doesn't have autism.
#61 - Detroits Ayrab
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Oh god
Oh god