Guns kill people. Nope. If guns kill people, forks make peaple fat," pencils misspell wards; and ears make drive drunk.. They have other functions and it's pretty hard to go on a killing-spree with a fork in a school.
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#14 - tylosaurus ONLINE (02/25/2013) [-]
They have other functions and it's pretty hard to go on a killing-spree with a fork in a school.
#15 to #14 - John Cena (02/25/2013) [-]
look up the vodka bottle killer than say this killed over 100 people
#17 to #15 - tylosaurus ONLINE (02/25/2013) [-]
Alexander Pichushkin?

You're presenting to me, a murder who killed people individually and not in day-time in public areas such as the school itself in front of students? It literally says he hit his victims with a hammer, but put broken vodka bottles into their skull to make sure that they died. Meaning that he killed people with a hammer and what not?

Hands can kill people too, they are used for other things than killing. Gun's aren't. Vodka bottles are also used to other things than killing.
#44 to #17 - neiharakon (02/25/2013) [-]
At the end of the day 100 people died. How they died is probably no source of relief to those who grieve them. To say that one loss of life is more tragic or more justified to legal restraint simply because the mode of killing is more concentrated is outrageous.

The problem is killing, not the guns. I am a target shooter. I have never shot another living creature in my life but to say that my shooting has no purpose is the same as saying any sport has no purpose, ergo guns have a purpose other than killing.

Guns are tools. People use tools. Some tools are more dangerous than others and sometimes that is a deliberate part of their function. However to then say it is inappropriate for an individual to have such a tool because of the potential for harm that tool presents is simply unintelligent. You would have no car, no power tools, no pick-axes, no saws, no axes, etc.

And at the end of the day, are you going to feel safer when the criminal has a gun pointed at you after he bought it illegally? or when you're pointing a gun at the criminal because it is your right to defend yourself and your loved ones? All gun banning serves to do is limit what the average citizen, whom follows the constraints of the law, has to use in their defense.

tl;dr You're a poopy-head and I disagree with your logic.
#46 to #44 - tylosaurus ONLINE (02/25/2013) [-]
You do realize that guns weren't created for a sport, right? Their main goal is to be used as KILLING TOOLS. Just like a fork is mainly used for EATING, it is ALSO able to KILL. The issue is that people over there don't buy the guns for sport purposes. I've been a sport shooter myself and I've won a few trophies that are right above my head as I'm typing this.

Where did I ever say anything about justifying a murder because of the way the person died? Don't be ignorant.

I'm not saying you should ban guns, we have guns here too. Make them harder to get. Assault rifles? Hell, not even a sport shooter would be able to get that here and it wouldn't be used for sport shooting what so ever.

You're going to feel safe with legal guns. Oh, please tell me you're going to defend yourself if you're already shot. Woo-hoo, we can get another person harmed by shooting him too. Well, you have fun with your legal weapons and high deathrates of people killed by weapons while I'm sitting here, safely in my house. Without a gun. Though, it's too bad, you probably live in America and you were too self-absorbed by your freedom that you now can't even feel safe without a tool made for killing things.

Also, never said anything about banning, please don't put words in my mouth.

TL;DR You're an ignorant american with ****** logic.
User avatar #64 to #14 - blokrokker (02/25/2013) [-]
>it's pretty hard to go on a killing-spree with a fork in a school
Well you're obviously not trying hard enough.
User avatar #71 to #64 - tylosaurus ONLINE (02/25/2013) [-]
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User avatar #40 - moosespoon **User deleted account** (02/25/2013) [-]
People choke to death on food. Gonna ban food Obama?
User avatar #72 - GodofTV (02/25/2013) [-]
People can misspell **** out loud and eat with their hands, Granted they wouldn't get hit by cars without drunk drivers, but cars actually have a use. Guns just kill things. Stop trying to bastardize the arguement faggots, use some ******* common sense. You don't NEED guns, they only cause harm. Son of a ******* bitch it's not that ******* difficult to understand.
User avatar #79 to #72 - Crusader (02/25/2013) [-]
People can shoot each other with bows
Even further they can kill each other with their bare hand, guns just make it easier and cleaner.
User avatar #89 to #72 - stiffbeefyone (02/25/2013) [-]
If someone is in my house with my family and they only come charging at me with a knife (not a gun), I can blow his kneecaps out at a safe distance. Found a good purpose for a gun. Not hard.
User avatar #84 to #72 - plainarcane **User deleted account** (02/25/2013) [-]
There are legitimate reasons to shoot a person, for example, if that person were trying to harm you or your family.

Yes, guns are weapons. But because law abiding people have legitimate reasons to use weapons, they have legitimate reasons to own them.
#18 - teranin ONLINE (02/25/2013) [-]
Even if guns DO kill people, who the 			****		 cares? Cigarettes or Alcohol, take your pick, they kill way more people per year in the states than guns.  An item's inherent ability to kill or not to kill has never been a point of legislation in the states, and it never will be.
Even if guns DO kill people, who the **** cares? Cigarettes or Alcohol, take your pick, they kill way more people per year in the states than guns. An item's inherent ability to kill or not to kill has never been a point of legislation in the states, and it never will be.
User avatar #25 to #18 - icedmantwo (02/25/2013) [-]
yeahhh but the people who smoke and drink do so willingly
usually when people get shot they arent trying to increase their lead content
#26 to #25 - teranin ONLINE (02/25/2013) [-]
no, but the people using the guns are generally killing those ************* willingly. What's more, lets add food into the mix. The advent of dwarf wheat and chemical synthesis of corn has caused an epidemic of extreme obesity in america that kills people in numbers so great that they put the rest of causes of death in the states to shame. People are choosing to die, doesn't that seem like a bigger problem then a relatively insignificant amount of gun deaths each year? Heart Disease kills half a MILLION people each year in the states, with Cancer (caused by alcohol and smoking) coming in a close second, Hell even actual suicide is close to 40,000 people a year which is slightly more than 4 times the amount of murders. Not gun murders, mind you, just murders. All I'm saying is owning guns is not in and of itself a threat to your survival, but Mcdonalds and Whiskey sure as **** are, and we are only focusing on this ridiculous attempt at gun control because it makes for a good boogeyman due to the irrational fear many have of guns.
User avatar #27 to #26 - icedmantwo (02/25/2013) [-]
im not saying that guns are the main source of death anywhere (excepting war) im saying guns are specifically designed to kill, whereas these other things arent (excepting government conspiracies)
my point was you can choose not to eat poorly, you can choose not to drink or smoke and you can choose as to whether or not you want to jump off a bridge while somebody else chooses if they pull a trigger and kill you from 8 meters away
that being said i do support the personal ownership of semi automatic, bolt action, pump action, lever action, break action, and flintlock weaponry as they have greatly reduced ability to hose down a group of people, while still maintaining their ability to hunt and defend the home, whilst fully automatic weaponry are specifically designed to kill humans
#28 to #27 - teranin ONLINE (02/25/2013) [-]
Handguns are the guns that are designed solely to kill people, assault weapons are designed to quickly unleash a hail of bullets.  I'd rather see a handgun ban than an assault weapon ban, because there is no way you can say that a 9mm glock is for deer hunting but you can definitely make a case for an ak-47 when hunting bears.
Handguns are the guns that are designed solely to kill people, assault weapons are designed to quickly unleash a hail of bullets. I'd rather see a handgun ban than an assault weapon ban, because there is no way you can say that a 9mm glock is for deer hunting but you can definitely make a case for an ak-47 when hunting bears.
User avatar #29 to #28 - icedmantwo (02/25/2013) [-]
for what reason would you hunt a bear
in addition a handgun can still be used for home defense and personal defense, have lower magazine capacity, arent full auto, and typically (though not always) fire smaller rounds
would you rather get hit by a 9mm or a 7.62?
would you find it easier to kill a group of people firing one round at a time or spraying 30 rounds in a couple of seconds?
#31 to #29 - teranin ONLINE (02/25/2013) [-]
You are implying that 1: Handguns have a use other than killing people and 2: Assault Weapons have no use other than killing people.  Regardless of the sass you decided to hit me with, my points both still stand. All "Home Defense" means when it comes to guns is "Kill humans".  And hunting a bear with an automatic weapon is a safe choice, because firing 5 shots even from a .306 won't necessarily stop a full size grizzly, but you better believe that 20+ 7.62 rounds will.   
   
Regardless, the banning of firearms is silly, and is distracting from real issues, like the fact that our fourth amendment rights as citizens are being violated by the NDAA, or the fact that there are STILL publicly funded schools that teach intelligent design AS SCIENCE.   
   
Quite simply, murder from guns is an inevitable fact of life in the united states, but every time you get behind the wheel of a car your risk of death is WAY WAY HIGHER than it ever will be from gun violence. All that this talk about gun legislation has managed to accomplish is a massive boost to sales for gun stores, honestly I wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing was a ploy to give a shot in the arm to the economy by getting people to spend their savings on guns (although I would be surprised if they had kept that a secret)
You are implying that 1: Handguns have a use other than killing people and 2: Assault Weapons have no use other than killing people. Regardless of the sass you decided to hit me with, my points both still stand. All "Home Defense" means when it comes to guns is "Kill humans". And hunting a bear with an automatic weapon is a safe choice, because firing 5 shots even from a .306 won't necessarily stop a full size grizzly, but you better believe that 20+ 7.62 rounds will.

Regardless, the banning of firearms is silly, and is distracting from real issues, like the fact that our fourth amendment rights as citizens are being violated by the NDAA, or the fact that there are STILL publicly funded schools that teach intelligent design AS SCIENCE.

Quite simply, murder from guns is an inevitable fact of life in the united states, but every time you get behind the wheel of a car your risk of death is WAY WAY HIGHER than it ever will be from gun violence. All that this talk about gun legislation has managed to accomplish is a massive boost to sales for gun stores, honestly I wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing was a ploy to give a shot in the arm to the economy by getting people to spend their savings on guns (although I would be surprised if they had kept that a secret)
User avatar #32 to #31 - icedmantwo (02/25/2013) [-]
i specifically stated the whole purpose of a gun is to kill things
i specifically stated the whole purpose of automatic guns is to kill humans
automatic weaponry was designed for, and with the intent to, kill other humans quickly
at least with handguns you can argue that they are useful for home defense
i also think everyone should complete mandatory gun safety courses and acquire weapon licences before owning a gun so as to increase safe use of guns
while i frown on hunting i can understand the appeal of hunting deer and the like, but bears shouldnt be killed unless they threaten human life
this is because the reproduction rate for predators is a lot lower than the reproduction rate of herbivores (natural balancing mechanism) and so hunting predators does little except to "prove your worth" is almost any circle as most predators arent hunted for their meat
#33 to #32 - teranin ONLINE (02/25/2013) [-]
Ohh so you're one of the people that think like that... Ok. I will never be able to convince you of my position since this would be an opinion vs opinion argument, so let's just leave it at that, with both of us having clearly stated our positions to one another.
User avatar #34 to #33 - icedmantwo (02/25/2013) [-]
agreed
User avatar #30 to #29 - icedmantwo (02/25/2013) [-]
also if you need to hunt with a full auto gun your aim sucks and you should stop hunting
User avatar #90 - remsaman (02/25/2013) [-]
pencils allow you to create amazing stories, forks are just a tool to ease your ability to eat, and cars are designed as a mode of transportation.

a gun is designed to kill. a pencil is not designed to misspell words, forks arent designed to make people obese, and cars arent designed to run people over.
the purpose of a gun is purely to kill.
User avatar #91 to #90 - stiffbeefyone (02/25/2013) [-]
A knife was originally designed to kill, skin, hunt, and survive on a daily basis. Not for cooking food. Let's ban knives?
User avatar #101 to #90 - Crusader (02/26/2013) [-]
But guns are also used to hunt, like deer and moose, which is ******* tasty and creates less of a reliance on food companies meaning that they don't need to produce so much beef and pork, *insert PETA rant*
But nonetheless, guns were meant to help you hunt and help you defend yourself, it has a positive purpose, the negatives come when people do stupid things with these tools, such as eat too much, write hateful messages and drive drunk.

I am not saying that guns are saintly, but as it stands, if a criminal and/or person who generally wants to do harm to other people (with any weapon, be it rifle, pistol, hammer, knife or a giant dildo) I would rather have the obvious advantage of a firearm rather than a knife, and therefore is a necessary evil as long as guns exist anywhere.

But rather than ban guns of any sort, a gradual licensing system seems to be the most logical option.
Here in Canada ( I don't know if you have it in the states) vehicle licensing is gradual.
You start with a G1 at 16, you can do basic daytime driving with someone that has been licensed for 4 years riding shotgun
After 12 months (8 months with driver's training) you get a G2 and can do everything but penalties are harsher
After another 12 months you get your G and you are fully licensed
And after that there are specialized licenses for various things such as big rigs, motorcycles, forklifts, etc.
It seems logical that there should be the same sort of thing in place for guns, you know, you get your beginners and you can get pistols and home defense weapons, a step up and you get rifle and shotguns, a step up from that and you get, say, access to large clips (or maybe you just need a permit for that, since there are hogs and such in some areas).
Or at least it makes sense to me.
User avatar #24 - icedmantwo (02/25/2013) [-]
guns dont kill people
people kill people
with guns
User avatar #82 to #24 - plainarcane **User deleted account** (02/25/2013) [-]
Or knives.

Or axes, or sticks, or cars, or rope, or crowbars....
User avatar #86 to #82 - icedmantwo (02/25/2013) [-]
a recent study has shown that knives, axes, sticks, rope, and crowbars have uses beyond killing things
User avatar #114 to #86 - plainarcane **User deleted account** (03/01/2013) [-]
The point is, people will always kill each other, regardless of whether or not they have guns. Which is a moot point anyway, because you can never stop criminals from having guns. The only people that are effected by gun laws are people who actually obey the law, who are the people we want carrying guns.
User avatar #115 to #114 - icedmantwo (03/01/2013) [-]
true, though places like canada (which has a ban on automatic weaponry and require a restricted license for handguns, and a basic license for rifles and shotguns of the pump, lever, break, bolt action and semi automatic varieties) and other places which either have an outright ban or require much stricter licences or training to acquire a gun have lower gun homicide rates
a complete ban on guns is both unfeasible and unobtainable in the united states but banning automatic weaponry (keeping in mind scary black furniture dont make a gun more dangerous) and requiring training and mental health checks greatly reduce dangerous people acquiring a gun legally and reduce the amount of guns out there
please keep in mind a person who gets a gun illegally may have just stole it from somebody who got it legally but didnt know how to store it properly
User avatar #116 to #115 - plainarcane **User deleted account** (03/01/2013) [-]
Actually I do think gun owners should be required by law to store their guns in an approved gun safe for that very reason. Except one that can be kept out for home defense.
User avatar #117 to #116 - icedmantwo (03/01/2013) [-]
perhaps if it was in a location not known to anyone but the owner of the gun and wasnt accessible to children like above the door on the inside of a closet or something but even then its a risky thing to do
User avatar #20 - drfrizz (02/25/2013) [-]
uk has stricter gun regulations, and has had only two killing sprees/mass murders in "modern times", one in 1987 and one in 1996. how many have there been in the US?
User avatar #52 to #20 - jdonaldson (02/25/2013) [-]
The UK has been disarmed for over 100+ years and only has 62 million people. The USA has a constitutionally protect right for private gun ownership and we have over 300 million people. More people equals more crazies which equal more violence. Also the UK is one of the most violent countries on earth as far as violent crime goes. That stats are online. People in the Uk just kill and hurt each other with other objects like knifes, bats, gasoline, pots, and more.
User avatar #105 to #52 - drfrizz (02/26/2013) [-]
do some research into the number of murders per capita in the uk and the us. those stats are online too.
#21 to #20 - John Cena (02/25/2013) [-]
merica will never be invaded
#41 to #21 - ninjamyles **User deleted account** (02/25/2013) [-]
*America
#62 to #41 - comradewinter (02/25/2013) [-]
I cringe every time I read that ******** quote.

en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Isoroku_Yamamoto
User avatar #68 to #62 - ninjamyles **User deleted account** (02/25/2013) [-]
i was unaware that this he had never actually said that, although you mus admit whether he said it or not the statement it's self remains true
User avatar #23 to #20 - godtherapist (02/25/2013) [-]
Almost every single citizen in Switzerland has a gun in their home. They have even fewer killing sprees.

Coincidence?

Yes, that's exactly what it is.
User avatar #36 to #23 - Riukanojutsu ONLINE (02/25/2013) [-]
isnt the swiss education system superior to the US one? Probably. Coincidense? probably not.
#37 to #36 - teranin ONLINE (02/25/2013) [-]
HA it's true and depressing at the same time.
HA it's true and depressing at the same time.
User avatar #39 to #23 - drfrizz (02/25/2013) [-]
and everyone of those people has been put through training to be a soldier, for which they have to pass a screening
#42 to #23 - adamks ONLINE (02/25/2013) [-]
Less poor people.
User avatar #48 to #20 - RageRambo ONLINE (02/25/2013) [-]
The UK's violent crime rate and rape rates are higher than the US's

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User avatar #61 to #48 - milthyfoustache (02/25/2013) [-]
no they aren't at all, and in the UK they are bought up a lot because some areas are very bad whereas most areas aren't bad in the slightest
User avatar #104 to #48 - drfrizz (02/26/2013) [-]
as hellfiazz pointed out, england's violent crime rate is lower than the majority of the US states. and besides, if you look at the uk's population (roughly 62 million) compared to the size of the population of say, north dakota's 700,000 (which according to your source has the highest murder rate) and then compare the number of murders happening in both countries/states, what can you extrapolate from that? why has north dakota got so many more murders per capita than the uk? im definately not saying that north dakotas pretty relaxed gun laws are the reason (no need to have a license, firearm registration etc), but dont those figures seem alarming at all?
#49 to #48 - hellfiazz (02/25/2013) [-]
That page shows that only 4 states have a lower murder rate.
#1 - John Cena (02/24/2013) [-]
only thing is that those things have other functions
#4 to #1 - John Cena (02/25/2013) [-]
Food, self defense, recreation, national defense, sport, law enforcement. Going on killing sprees is not the only use of a firearm and killing is not always a moral wrong. But i doubt you ******* bleeding hurts would understand

Captcha=308. How fitting
#56 - azinfoo (02/25/2013) [-]
Pencils allow people to write words at all, forks allow people to eat with utensils rather than their hands and cars efficiently transport people. They all serve an important purpose.

Guns (hand guns and military grade guns in particular) have no other purpose but to kill people.
User avatar #63 to #56 - stiffbeefyone (02/25/2013) [-]
Killing people is a purpose. Hitler died by a gun, Osama died by a gun. Seems like a good purpose to me. Or maybe I'm just a 'Murifag.
#87 to #63 - John Cena (02/25/2013) [-]
Martin luther king was killed by a gun, John f kennedy was killed by a gun, thousands of soldiers are killed by guns. what's your ******* point
User avatar #88 to #87 - stiffbeefyone (02/25/2013) [-]
There are still bad people that need to be killed by guns....... ******* dumbass....
#113 to #88 - azinfoo (02/26/2013) [-]
Realistically, yes there are people who are better off dead.

But it truly is unfortunate that it's necessary to kill anyone at all.
#55 - crampypmarc (02/25/2013) [-]
Please tell me another use for a gun. Without that it's to protect me ******** .
User avatar #65 to #55 - lorddarkskull (02/25/2013) [-]
i'm from michigan. hunting (especially deer) is practically mandatory
#67 to #55 - John Cena (02/25/2013) [-]
Recreation
User avatar #77 to #55 - pebar (02/25/2013) [-]
plinking
#57 to #55 - John Cena (02/25/2013) [-]
start a race....
#59 to #57 - crampypmarc (02/25/2013) [-]
You win, anon, you win...   
   
The day the anon wasn't a faggot.
You win, anon, you win...

The day the anon wasn't a faggot.
User avatar #58 to #57 - nalapsi (02/25/2013) [-]
damn forgot to sign in....
User avatar #81 to #55 - Crusader (02/25/2013) [-]
Tell me a use for a fork other than eating
A use for a a pencil than writing
A use for a car rather than driving
User avatar #95 to #81 - crampypmarc (02/25/2013) [-]
You... you're joking, right?
You're counterasking me on my question what is other use of gun other than killing with fork and eating?!

Crusader, honestly, you are a stupid human being. Just to clarify. Stupid. You're stupid in any sense and meaning of the word "stupid. You're stupid, dumb, idiotic, moronic, retarded... Any way you want it, you're that.

Once again,
Crusader, I just want to tell you, you're stupid.
User avatar #96 to #95 - Crusader (02/25/2013) [-]
No actually, my response is perfectly reasonable.
All these things have a positive purpose, the negative purposes come when stupid people do stupid things with them.
Calling me stupid is not an argument, in fact it detracts from your argument because it is an ad hominem attack.
Sorry that you appear to be ignorant.
User avatar #98 to #96 - crampypmarc (02/26/2013) [-]
Oh, man, I'm so sorry...

I truly never call someone stupid without an argument. I didn't realize you need an explanation on this one as it's so obvious.

Look, you countered my question without responding to it with another question. Forks, pencils, cars and all that stuff have a positive purpose as you said. Guns don't. They only exist and are designed to kill another being easily. That's terrible. It's terrible such a device exists. Why would you kill someone else?! Human or animal. Not only it's wrong, it's a sign of a coward and small penis owner (that's a true fact, yes it is)
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User avatar #102 to #99 - crampypmarc (02/26/2013) [-]
Hahaha :D
It's not a necessary evil. You'll get that one day ;). I would say you're about 15, maybe 16.
Another point, if you go to the woods with a gun to hunt, you might as well take a camptruck and your iPod. It's not really being self-reliant having a gun on hunting unless you made that gun yourself.
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User avatar #106 to #103 - crampypmarc (02/26/2013) [-]
No one will shoot you with a gun when you're walking down the street. If you live in such a bad neighbourhood there is an actual chance of that happening, move away (no excuses about having no resources to do that).

In case of a war, you can be recruited. Army gives you a gun, you can go to war. No other country will invade your home .

You're not in an Arnold Schwarzenegger movie, situation of you standing in a room with an armed criminal is unlikely.

If you want to be self-reliant, buy yourself a ranch or a farm.
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User avatar #108 to #107 - crampypmarc (02/26/2013) [-]
Ok, let's say you find yourself in a conv store and there is a guy with a gun trying to rob it. Why would he shoot you? Would you try to risk your life so Walmart doesn't lose a few bucks? If yes, you're a nutjob. If no, nothing will happen to you. He's more likely to shoot you if he sees you have a gun. You shoot him, you get to **** around the courts and trials for a year before they let you go on self-defence.
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User avatar #110 to #109 - crampypmarc (02/26/2013) [-]
You....didn't really say anything to counter me.
But ok.
1. Yes, if someone is robbing a store, he's there for the money and most likely won't shoot anyone (most robbers go with empty or a toy gun). If no, then they can shoot you on the street and I guarantee you, no gun will save you from a lunatic.
2. Not if you killed somebody. You killed another human being. DA will report you and you will have to lose some of your time and nerves on dealing with that.
3. How often does that happen? Have you actually witnessed such an event and wished you had a gun to save someone in that situation?
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User avatar #111 to #110 - crampypmarc (02/26/2013) [-]
Deleting your comments?! Really?!
User avatar #53 - jdonaldson (02/25/2013) [-]
Ohhh. I left my gun safe unlocked. I better go make sure none of my guns wondered off by them selves and started shooting people. You got to watch those silly guns. They have a mind of their own.
#12 - John Cena (02/25/2013) [-]
Guns don't kill people on their own but that is their primary purpose, it has been proven that gun control massively limits the damage that gangsters and psychopaths can cause.
#11 - John Cena (02/25/2013) [-]
Again? Look I realise guns don't do this on their own but why make it ******* easy for people to kill each other? Maybe we should let everyone have nuclear weapons too because hey they don't kill people, the person who fires them does.
User avatar #10 - walalalabangbang (02/25/2013) [-]
10 babies die almost everyone month from being locked in the car for too long in hot weather. So I guess we should take away cars because cars kills babies.
User avatar #38 to #10 - Riukanojutsu ONLINE (02/25/2013) [-]
whats the main purpose of a car? To move with ease
Whats the main purpose of a gun? Kill.

gee i wonder why people dont like guns.
User avatar #22 - highfocus (02/25/2013) [-]
try to draw without a pencil

you wouldn´t ****** stonehenge that ****
#66 - stiffbeefyone (02/25/2013) [-]
People want facts. But can't handle these facts. You don't like, go back to Europe.
#69 to #66 - xheavymetalx (02/25/2013) [-]
You must be really ******* stupid to compare Obama to Hitler, Castro, Stalin, etc...
User avatar #73 to #69 - stiffbeefyone (02/25/2013) [-]
If you don't like America, pack your **** and go to Canada. Nobody is stopping you. People whine and complain behind a ******* keyboard all day, but don't do **** about it. If you want to really say " **** THIS AMERICAN ******** ", then leave. No one is saying you can't live in Canada or you can't live in Europe. Riddle me that fag.
#74 to #73 - xheavymetalx (02/25/2013) [-]
... are you high? Where in my comment did I say anything un-American?
User avatar #75 to #74 - stiffbeefyone (02/25/2013) [-]
I am talking about people "Hate" living in America. "Too many guns" "Ban guns". Just move. Nobody is stopping you. People don't leave because they are getting their wel-fare checks, SSI checks because their daddy was killed in a gang related shooting. It gets old fast. And I wasn't comparing Obama in general, just gun control laws. I honestly like Obama more than any republican candidate.
#76 to #75 - xheavymetalx (02/25/2013) [-]
So, if we have a different opinion, we should leave the country? That goes against the entire ******* basis of democracy.
User avatar #78 to #76 - stiffbeefyone (02/25/2013) [-]
SO. You are willing to lose your constitutional rights? That's basically what you are saying. What a true American.....
#80 to #78 - xheavymetalx (02/25/2013) [-]
No one ever said to disarm the entire population. THAT is losing your constitutional rights. Restricting gun distribution and usage is just being responsible. Even the constitution says "WELL REGULATED".
User avatar #85 to #80 - stiffbeefyone (02/25/2013) [-]
But let me tell you something else if you didn't already know. It only takes a small .22 to cause a "mass shooting". How do you prevent that?
User avatar #83 to #80 - stiffbeefyone (02/25/2013) [-]
Then tell me what you would do? They have already taken our right to open carry in California (which we were constantly harassed by police officers for doing absolutely nothing. They had no probable cause.) The fact that people come up with the "disarm the population" as a solution is NOT the solution. In America, your rights are being taken away by the thousands, if not, millions daily. Have you ever been to a court hearing and plead "no contest"? The completely strip you of your rights and blatantly tell you that you have no rights before your sentence. It's getting to the point that Americans are their own demise. Think of a proper solution and I will back it 100%. If they want to do psychological exams before you can purchase a firearm, I would back that 100%. If you can only own a certain type of firearm only once per person, I would back that 100% (long rifle, shotgun, handgun).
User avatar #93 - tictacpattywhack (02/25/2013) [-]
"Oh hey I'm bored, let me just post a picture that pisses everyone off, causing massive **** storm to end my boredom." Can you guys please stop arguing over stupid **** , thinking your words are going to change **** .
#92 - stiffbeefyone (02/25/2013) [-]
People still use guns to hunt, eat and survive. Not everyone is like you fat ***** that go to McDonalds everyday.

Pic is of America failing their "gun control"
#94 to #92 - cupotruth ONLINE (02/25/2013) [-]
Dude like three comments ago you clearly state that you are an American.

This level of stupidity baffles me.

Well you're probably a troll anyway but you're not even good at it.

0/10 my friend, bad show.
User avatar #97 to #94 - stiffbeefyone (02/26/2013) [-]
WTF are you talking about. I am American. I don't see how your comment applies to what I originally commented. ******** .
User avatar #100 to #97 - cupotruth ONLINE (02/26/2013) [-]
I skimmed your comment.

Thought "America" on the last line was "Americans" so I thought you were speaking from an outside perspective.

You're still an ass but as it stands I lost the energy to care.

So you win, or whatever. Congratulations.
User avatar #70 - sarphog (02/25/2013) [-]
Alcohol makes people drive drunk*
#60 - John Cena (02/25/2013) [-]
And stupidity makes people stupid
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