'Murica!. yeah!.. teach the bible at schools? kids go to school to learn and get smarter not the other way around america Time Magazine we suck
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#14 - xsap
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teach the bible at schools? kids go to school to learn and get smarter not the other way around
teach the bible at schools? kids go to school to learn and get smarter not the other way around
#20 to #14 - penguinthegreat
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did you ever actually read the bible?
the point of it is to send a message, not tell you what you should do or think
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User avatar #35 to #21 - graphenz
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red the above comment, I think I got your point out :)
#22 to #21 - penguinthegreat
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the only things that it really declares are the 10 commandments and thats all
#24 to #22 - sanepane
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Of which one of them states "worship me and only me (or burn in hell as a sinner)."
It also has a lot of other retarded ****, like "keep your hair short", "women, keep your ******* mouth shut and do what men tell you" and my personal favorite, "Stare at a womans tits (or some lewd equivalent) and you're committing adultery."

Even if these things haven't been declared by a god per-se, they're still from the holy book and some dumb **** can still fall back on stupid passages like these (or worse ones) for an excuse to express his ignorance and bigotry. Should we examine the bible as an interesting work of ancient/classical literature and an integral part of western history and culture? Sure, why not. But to actually take the book seriously and spread its teachings in school? No, that **** is brainwashing.
#26 to #24 - penguinthegreat
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of which one of them states that if you are christian you should only have one god, him, because when that was written there were still polytheistic religions. nothing about burning in hell.
keep your hair short (for hygiene in the desert, and the lack of clean water)
Jesus wanted both men and women to be equal but he couldnt do that.
also can u quote that please?
User avatar #29 to #26 - godofcorndog
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Can't quote it, because it doesn't say it.
It says to punish a cheating wife by stoning her to death. It says to pay a father a sum of silver for raping his virgin daughter. Where is the helpful insight on these?
#32 to #29 - SunilCCXXXVII **User deleted account**
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This is helpful, all I need to do is pay a small fine, nice.

Also that woman has to marry the rapist. This sick **** still happens and is followed, I remember reading a story of some poor girl that suicided because she had to marry her rapist.. ******* sickening.
#33 to #32 - godofcorndog
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Glad we see things in the same light.
#49 to #29 - penguinthegreat
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those are jewish laws, not christian
User avatar #52 to #49 - godofcorndog
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And yet still in the Bible. Can't pick and chose which to follow and which to not.
User avatar #119 to #52 - drewbridge
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That's ridiculous. God gave those laws to the Israelites because they were consistently being self destructive and ruining their own existence.
"Can't pick and choose which to follow" *********. It's very, very obvious he gave them specifically in the old testament, before Jesus even existed.
User avatar #127 to #119 - godofcorndog
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"Old Testament" is still the Bible.
User avatar #128 to #127 - drewbridge
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Why did you only read 8 words?
User avatar #130 to #128 - godofcorndog
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Tell me something, does it say anywhere on the Old Testament "FOR JEWS ONLY, CHRISTIANS DO NOT READ"?
User avatar #250 to #130 - drewbridge
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Leviticus 20 verse 1. Leviticus is very popular for being hateful.

"The Lord said to Moses, 2 “Say to the Israelites:"

And then goes on to name many laws for them to follow.

After that, there's this:
Keep all my decrees and laws and follow them, so that the land where I am bringing you to live may not vomit you out. 23 You must not live according to the customs of the nations I am going to drive out before you. Because they did all these things, I abhorred them. 24 But I said to you, “You will possess their land; I will give it to you as an inheritance, a land flowing with milk and honey.” I am the Lord your God, who has set you apart from the nations.

tl;dr "These are some laws for you dumbasses to follow because you're my chosen people, don't screw it up".

Very obviously talking to the early Israelites to keep them in line.
User avatar #252 to #250 - godofcorndog
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Mmhmm...I see. I see. Well, I asked my father, who is a reverend about the topic. He said that most of the Old Testament WAS taken from the Torah, not word for word, but most of the concepts and all of the prophets were copied. However, the messages and passages were indented to be part of the whole Christian message. So, take that as you want to.
#58 to #52 - penguinthegreat
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why are u people trying to start a war, finding everything negative there is in the bible and rubbing it into my face?
holy book doesnt mean always and forever right book, it was written by people 3000 years ago
User avatar #62 to #58 - godofcorndog
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Just proving points here. The Bible is a book, plain and simple. It is the ones who forget that and try to take it a factual work of history and restrict others from living their lives because of their beliefs.
I've read the Bible. And I have many problems with it. I find positive messages in it, but there is so much to it that is wrong morally and just plain backwards. And it isn't its own fault really. It is the people who wrote it. But people who follow it don't see it that way. They rather it be a 'word of God' and take everything written in it literally.
#64 to #62 - penguinthegreat
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u generalise christians too much
thats like saying every single atheist says everything about the bible, god and christianity is moraly wrong, idiotic, twisted ect.
it is not black and white, and it never will be

i think my religion needs to be reformed. and i think it will. soon.
User avatar #66 to #64 - godofcorndog
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Ahhh I didn't say Christians at all in what I said, did I? I said 'people'. People are the problem in any religion.
#67 to #66 - penguinthegreat
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you were talking about religious fanatics, america is filled with them because they can turn their religion into whatever they want, and take anything literaly
the rest of the world is not like that
User avatar #72 to #67 - godofcorndog
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Oh but the rest of the world is just as guilty. Look at the Islamic extremists. They commit horrific acts in the name of their religion. And there have been Buddhist extremists before them, doing things quite similar.
#73 to #72 - penguinthegreat
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what about non american christianic extremists? any of those?
User avatar #77 to #73 - godofcorndog
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Oh, and I nearly forgot the Crusades in the Dark Ages, where millions of people were killed. Men, women and children alike. Now, keep in mind, I am not personally attacking you as a person. I am just answering your question.
User avatar #75 to #73 - godofcorndog
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Sure. That is how Christianity was founded. The Spanish destroyed dozens of cultures while looking for gold, and saved perhaps a handful of submissive villagers who would rather convert rather than die. The colonists (not the first few, but the later ones) from England killed thousands of Native Americans because of their 'savageness'.
#78 to #75 - penguinthegreat
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and both of those are considered mistakes by the christians.
people are idiots... always were, always will be

ill be going now so to conclude :
christianity as a religion is not all that bad, but just like every other group of people, we make mistakes because we are human
after changing its aproach and not killing everyone who is of a diffrent religion, christianity has been relatively fine... mostly...
#80 to #78 - godofcorndog
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I agree with you. And I was happy to see they were considered mistakes. Everything with a past has mistakes in it, and it is best to recognize them and improve from them.    
   
A cookie for you, for being a gentleman about the whole thing.   
Good day, ol' bean.
I agree with you. And I was happy to see they were considered mistakes. Everything with a past has mistakes in it, and it is best to recognize them and improve from them.

A cookie for you, for being a gentleman about the whole thing.
Good day, ol' bean.
User avatar #30 to #26 - godofcorndog
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Oh, and ******** on 'men and women' being equal. Women were little more than slaves. Good try though.
#27 to #26 - sanepane
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"I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men; she is to keep silent." Timothy 2:11
"But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." (Matthew 5:28)
Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him (Corinthians 11:14)

And it doesn't matter if they made sense then! A lot of them don't make sense now, and people who quote the book now and use it as proof or support for whatever claim they're championing are basing their arguments on data that's 2000+ years old and probably written by humans of that era (even should a christian God exist). And some kids are learning all this, the good and the bad, as fact. In schools.

That's retarded.
#28 to #27 - penguinthegreat
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were you taught that as fact in school?
i wasnt
it is wrong to have such an opinion and christianity is a religion that needs to be reformed but my religion teacher in school never taught me things like "women are inferior" or "god says you should cut your hair" because the current society is not like that
#38 to #28 - sanepane
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Yeah, but it's in the bible, that's taught in schools as the word of God. These kids don't know any better, and at least my teacher never really told me to be critical towards the bible. No critical thinking imparted, whatsoever, so there's a risk for a child to get bad influences from a book that's supposedly very reputable. You know, kind of like the "gay" thing. Or Earth having only existed for only some thousands of years. And there are definitely religious nuts to be found teaching in school. I was lucky enough not to have one, and you were too. That doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

I don't think religion in schools should be abolished, though, just put off until the kids are old enough to shape their own opinions on matters, and then given a choice of whether or not they care enough to learn about it. I was smart enough as a teen to realize which passages were not to be taken seriously. Not so much at age 7.
#53 to #38 - penguinthegreat
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the ********* above went wild...
its like im a represenative of everything that is wrong with chrisitanity
and i agree with you, children shouldnt be taught from the bible before they can understand it.
#69 to #53 - sanepane
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I have nothing against you, and you're not what's wrong with christianity. I am sorry you're getting a wave of red thumbs, but It's just really easy to get riled up on this.
#74 to #69 - penguinthegreat
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its like talking to a wall here...
kinda sad if u think about it
atheists are supposed to think things through
but they dont, they just look at everyone religious as an idiot and treat him as such
#91 to #74 - sanepane
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I'd rather you wouldn't put all us atheists in one box, especially when earlier on you said (rightfully) that christians shouldn't be generalized. In fact, I think the arguments here have been quite civil and respectul (bar the patronizing god-and-stove analogy). You want to see a real *********? Look up some of the FJ posts/comments made by "zlamous" or whatever he calls himself now, and the arguments resulting from that. Now that's a *********.
#93 to #91 - penguinthegreat
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but im not trying to fight
i did exactly the same thing u did so u know how it feels
i wont be a faggot if everyone else is civil
#99 to #93 - sanepane
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I did not generalize christians, re-read my posts if you must. Some people use the bible to justify their narrow opinions or extreme actions. There are bound to be religious nuts teaching in schools. And the bible does have some things that, at present, are considered sexist and draconic among other things.
#107 to #99 - penguinthegreat
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very sorry about that, i have no idea what i said to who anymore, its all on this page
somewhere around here, to someone, i said that i think that our religion should be reformed, as it was in the past
and children should not be taught by the bible untill they are able to understand it.

the idiotic parts of the bible should be cut out, but it would be an outrage because some people are idiots and i dont think that will happen any time soon
#101 to #99 - sanepane
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These are not generalizations, but facts.
User avatar #25 to #24 - coolalliki
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The Old Testament was written 30 centuries ago. Get the **** over it, hypocrite.
#31 to #25 - sanepane
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Why am I a hypocrite? That's exactly my point. It's really really old and a lot of it's passages are outdated in our society. And it happens to fill, like, half of the bible. Giving children the impression that the bible should be regarded as a book of facts when it's filled with outdated laws and information doesn't really sound like a brilliant idea to me. In fact to my ears it sounds retarded.

Also, jokes on you. All the three passages I quoted are from the new testament.
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Once there was a man, a very wealthy man, he partook in a great feast in the Northern lands of Scandinavia, once known as viking territory. Quzamir as he should from that day be known, partook in the great feast but as he took a bite of his roasted chicken a voice louder than the entire room but silent to his peers exploded from the chickens skin flaps. "I'm God I yelleth at you for thouhest haseth notheth thine stove turn offeth, do thiseth and I shalleth grant you eternal blisseth", Remember Kid's don't do drugs! or leave the stove on!, Quzamir rushed to his home in Greece we're as God had proclaimed his stove was indeed on, though in the time it took him to travel back to Greece his house had burned down, all that was left was the corpse of the retarded kid next door, on him was a box of matches. As Quzamir turned around looking into the sky, thinking of the flappy chicken skin talking only to him about such a crisis, all he could think was... Why the hell didn't God turn that damn stove off himself, that selfish son of a bitch, I'll try another religion and get into a new heaven, cya christianity. And he was cast to hell.

Now instead of writing that story I could just have said: Don't ******* leave your stove on, the retard neighbor will get in again, and you know how he loves matches. It's easier and simpler but requires a little common sense.

#48 to #34 - penguinthegreat
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i didnt write it
im just saying that it isnt wrong
User avatar #36 to #14 - bokkos
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The Bible is an important resource to understand much of European history and classic writers such as Shakespeare. While I agree the religious teachings of it all can be left out, you need at least a cursory understanding to fully appreciate English literature.
#104 to #36 - wowewowe
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I mostly agree with you, hopefully the majority of FJ users' eyes are too worn-out from looking at cat pictures that they won't see the fine print
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#162 to #160 - anon id: baa32838
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"teach the bible AT schools... are you retarded?
#121 to #14 - anon id: baa32838
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oh-ha-haa i would love to see how they're gonna manage to teach religion without confusing the kids...

Period 1 - religion
topic: how god created adam and eve the first humans 6000 years ago
Period 2 - science
topic: evolution
#134 to #121 - anon id: ba0df69a
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Catholics teach theistic evolution in their schools. Look it up.
User avatar #60 to #14 - allamericandude
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The low resolution of this picture doesn't let you see the subtitle, which says "{But very, very carefully}".

You can find the article online. I haven't read into it too deeply, but I think the author is making the case for teaching the Bible from a secular/historical point of view, simply because of the colossal influence the book still has in our culture.
#111 to #60 - wowewowe
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Why is EVERY comment that argues for the right to teach religious books in NONRELIGIOUS ways for NONRELIGIOUS reasons getting thumbed down?

It's like you guys are the exact opposite of Jehova's Witnesses, and you all are equally annoying. It's not like a teacher can FORCE a student to read those; due to separation of C&S he can, legally, refuse to read it and still not lose any points.

It is a very influential book, and that is why it should be read (but not shoved down students' throats), just like how many schools are able to do class-assignments on other religious books like the Quran
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A lot of people here just don't like Christianity/Christians, almost regardless of how you bring it up.
#171 to #153 - wowewowe
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I think it's funny how most people of FJ think of Christians as close-minded *********, while they themselves treat the religion in the same manner
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It's just another day for humanity, sadly. These kettles just won't leave the pots alone about being black, and vice versa.
User avatar #144 to #14 - mattmanhemi
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i live in new york, we dont learn the bible, we actually learn about other cultures and religions more then our own
User avatar #165 to #14 - KOMAFIFTYSIX
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Dude, think about all the Bible references used in classic literature. My friends didn't even know Judas hung himself. The Bible (though you may disagree on its divinity) is actually a fantastic piece of writing that has influenced thousands upon thousands of works of literature throughout time.
#166 to #165 - xsap
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yea and lets not forget all the thousands upon thousands of people who died in holy wars.
User avatar #168 to #166 - KOMAFIFTYSIX
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I'm not saying teach religion, I'm saying that people should know what's in the Bible. Imagine reading Brave New World without knowing Jesus's life. Its message and meaning are completely downplayed because one didn't get the allegory.

I never said indoctrinate people with Christianity, but you should know what each holy book contains.
User avatar #173 to #168 - xsap
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shut up... the bible is a load of bull crap along side all the other holy books that are keeping the world from evolving ... "talking snake convinced a girl to eat an apple" legit as ****.. if you ask me we should just ban all religion so people will spend more time studying science and doing something useful and not praying to an imaginary wizard...
User avatar #179 to #173 - KOMAFIFTYSIX
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I'm going to college to study bioengineering, by the way. Religion only gets in the way of science if you're an idiot.
User avatar #174 to #173 - KOMAFIFTYSIX
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Bro you sound entirely immature. People are allowed to believe what they want to believe. I believe in evolution and I'd still consider myself a Christian. I'm entirely for progressing as a race- I don't entirely agree with banning tattoos and killing those who partake in premarital sex, because that's stupid- but you have to understand the impact the Bible and other such books have had.

I don't think an anthropomorphic snake told the woman made out of the rib of a man to eat an apple. I personally believe it's a metaphor for the consequences of experience and knowledge on the typically blissfully ignorant young mind. However, it can be interpreted differently.

Christians =/= Bible thumpers.
#180 to #174 - xsap
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i didn't mean anything against you... i'm just saying the bible looks like its written by a 7 year old on acid... i real it almost twice and some of the **** i it talks about just makes you wanna go "what the ****" and people say "god is about fate" well fate in definition is believing in something without evidence... and i don't do that because i'm not an idiot.
i didn't mean anything against you... i'm just saying the bible looks like its written by a 7 year old on acid... i real it almost twice and some of the **** i it talks about just makes you wanna go "what the ****" and people say "god is about fate" well fate in definition is believing in something without evidence... and i don't do that because i'm not an idiot.
User avatar #191 to #180 - KOMAFIFTYSIX
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I agree with your devotion to evidence and science, but there are things yet explained. That's where faith really comes in. Life after death? Nobody can prove that, but going to a nice place is a nice thing to think about to calm one's self. The concept of nothingness is, honestly, scarier.
And maybe the Bible looks like it's written like that on the surface, but it obviously has to be a good enough book that writers throughout history put allegories in their writings that relate to it.
#18 to #14 - BlahDude
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Kids go to smarter to learn and get school?
User avatar #1 - herpaderpasaur
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what's to say that any of these are the same edition of the magazine...couldn't you have just taken a serious issue cover and put three of them next to a stupid issue cover?
User avatar #2 to #1 - peizur [OP]
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Good point.
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and I'm not just a burhurt american, I can take a joke...I usually love jokes about different countries including my own but this just feels too easy to fake
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Yeah, i know what you mean. I hadn't thought of it that way.
#5 to #4 - herpaderpasaur
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thanks for being friendly and not beating me with red thumbs...have some thumbs and these tiny frogs
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MOTHER ******* D'AAW!
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A civil discussion on the internet that involved someone seeing something from another's point of view... This is new to me.
User avatar #16 to #15 - peizur [OP]
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Meh, I'm generally not an asshole, and try to be polite.
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wow...good job..I'm impressed haha I hereby digress my former statement
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Get your head out of your ass OP. I have seen most of these issues on shelves in plenty of US stores.
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actually my house is subscribed to time... I've seen all the ones on the right, and none of the ones on the left.

yeah no.
User avatar #8 to #7 - peizur [OP]
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Sorry. I guess I should have fact checked this pic instead of just posting it blindly.
User avatar #9 to #8 - Trollathon
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eh it's fine.

you can't be upset while listening to futret :3
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preparing for red thumbs on this, but every single one of those issues have been published in the u.s.
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I am proud to be be an american and I like where I live. I live a very good life, I live in a democracy, It is not impossible to get a good job, schooling is good and affordable, we have some of the worlds best athletes, the product we do make are some of the best and the world. And I'm proud of our history. And as for the middle east, the first war was definitely justified, we were invaded by a group of terrrorist, and unlike the rest of the middle east afgan was unwilling to give them up. And as for Iraq, I am not happy we were there, but I dont think we were there because of greed, i truly do think the goverment thought there was a threat and i can understand why. The man agreed not to make nuclear weopons to the UN, kicked out the people he agreed to allow in to make sure they weren't making nukes, then said they were making nukes. Just turns out they were lying. And after we found out, we still overthrew the dictatorship, gave billions to rebuild, help set up free elections, fought against hate groups that tried to stop the elections, and now that we've done our best to help rebuild are leaving the middle east. But the thing that gets me when reading the comments is all the hate we take from europeans who have never been here, no nothing about us, our goverment, our culture, or what life here is like, had no formal education about us or goverment, yet claim the know everything us and how to run our country
#229 to #208 - anon id: d40aaf03
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but still against gay marriage... can't handle that all your "problems" was made by bush and some are still dumb enough to blame obama for the economy going in the drain! why elect on republic and democrats!!! get some new oil in those sandy wheels mr America
#248 to #229 - bigrog
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And as predicted, a european you thinks he knows everything about our goverment and how to fix it. First off the economy is not bush's fault, it was more than likely the banks, they gave out huge loans to people who they knew could not repay it, and when the market crashed becuase of the loans they then blackmailed the goverment by pretty much saying pay us money to get out of debt even though we have enough money to do it ourselves or we will file bankruptcy and cost millions there jobs and cost people a ******** of money. And even if that didnt happen we would still probably we in a recession because the economy goes in cycles, this is not our first reccession and it will not be our last, in a decade or so we will be back with a booming economy and it will stay that way for a decade or two before going back into another reccession. Thats how it works, the economy grows until it can't hanlde it and then goes into a reccession. And you do know not all of America is against gay marriage right? And people arent pissed at obama because they think he caused the problems, it's because he promised to fix all the problems, which he knew was pretty much impossible, and now, no suprise, still cant do it. How bout you educate yourself before you come spouting off a bunch or retarded crap
#241 to #229 - anon id: cc372bd5
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Quit being a ******* retard, then voice your opinion.
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User avatar #201 to #195 - marijanelover
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I live in Canada, we get both covers. This is accurate.
User avatar #97 - anonythegame
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ya.....about this,i am subscribed to time and live in america;i've never seen the "american" issues of time only the "foreign" ones,so i get the impression this is just to hate on americans and make them seem less intelligent than we actually are
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It's not saying Americans are made to seem less intelligent. Don't take it personally. It's a joke about how serious time portrays their covers of their magazines whilst in America, it's more about less serious issues.
User avatar #116 to #112 - anonythegame
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ya ok,it just gets old every fifth post seeing "MURICANS R SO RETRDED NO SMART PEOPLE COME FROM MURICA" when in fact we aren't as bad as everyone makes us out to be
User avatar #190 to #116 - imofcnotharveydent
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yes america have one of the greatest people on earth I don't doubt it, but there are also a damn big bulk of ***** only trying to fend for themselves, making it worse for just about everyone else in the process
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america has more Nobel prize winners than the UK, Germany, France, and china combined
User avatar #192 to #146 - imofcnotharveydent
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I don't think you really can count china, as they aren't really in the whole let's make progress and share it to everyone thing
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Wondering, if they can't teach the Bible in school systems, then why does the US system endorse books like:

The Illyiad
The Odyssey
Journey to the West
Epic of Gilgamesh
Beowulf
#92 to #37 - wowewowe
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What have I done to deserve these red thumbs? This was a legitimate question
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I'm not from the states, but my guess is that they don't "teach" those books in the same way people want the bible to be taught. I would imagine the people who want the bible to be taught in school would want to go through every word, lesson and phrase and be really thorough, while the other works you mentioned are only getting some short glances.
User avatar #41 to #37 - bronynexgen
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We allow these books to be taught to gain a sense of what other religions were like, other than Christianity/Judaism. Also because they all are pretty good books.
#42 to #37 - montybalboa
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Because they are all fantastically written books. Compared to a contradictory, nonsensical tome which has been poorly translated multiple times.
#44 to #42 - wowewowe
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I don't know, I thought the Odyssey was pretty dumb after reading it a second time

and Romeo and Juliet too

I've only read some parts of the other bookos
#45 to #44 - montybalboa
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I suppose the difference is that the Bible is meant to be fact, not fiction (for the most part)
#50 to #45 - wowewowe
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I suppose it would be of great help to teach the Bible in schools from an analytical viewpoint using a better translation. The ones that currently exist are easy but painful to read (I think because they were translated with the intent of being understood with even the poorest understanding of language {ex. little kids}).

If they teach the others due to the fact that they are influential, then I say teach the Bible as well for the same reason; it's one of the most damn influential books in history. Plus, it's at least as historically accurate as the other books. It would also greatly benefit non-Christians, atheists included, in refuting the Christian religion and stopping unrelenting Christians from forcing this faith unto you. There is no danger in a little extra knowledge.
#65 to #50 - montybalboa
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But schools, in my opinion, should be secular. If you insist on the Bible being studied then I have the right to insist on the Torah, the Quran, the Guru Granth Sahib etc
#90 to #65 - wowewowe
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You already do. Schools don't care if you read those books as sources for a project or something else, but one bible verse, and...
You already do. Schools don't care if you read those books as sources for a project or something else, but one bible verse, and...
User avatar #54 to #37 - blacksmithgu
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The bible is not taught in schools because it is the doctrine of a particular religion in the (mostly) religiously-free US. All the books you mentioned are ancient literary works (and are all excellent to read) with educational value. While they might have religious themes, most are about old religions or not the centerpiece of the literary work.

Those books are read in the US for their literary value, not their religious value...
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