-Obama. . You cm DENY I a THEIR Biult... l. RIGHTS AND PM ..uti 'a s' IF You DONE (lall.. . E , - OTHERS LIVE BY X YOUR own BELIEFS. BAYMAK. I doubt Obama said that -- not because of the content, but it just doesn't sound like his style of speech. But hey, if the words are next to his face on a pictu -Obama You cm DENY I a THEIR Biult l RIGHTS AND PM uti 'a s' IF DONE (lall E - OTHERS LIVE BY X YOUR own BELIEFS BAYMAK doubt Obama said that -- not because of the content but it just doesn't sound like his style speech But hey if words are next to face on pictu
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User avatar #15 - anniethreeone
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I doubt Obama said that -- not because of the content, but it just doesn't sound like his style of speech. But hey, if the words are next to his face on a picture on the internet, who am I to argue.
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User avatar #322 to #15 - drtrousersnake
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If it was by Obama it would be more like:

You can't deny, women, their basic rights--and--pretend, it is about, your religious freedom. What we need, is--a strong middle class. If--you don't like birth control, don't use it. This bipartisan idea, will create millions of jobs.

(the commas are short pauses and the "--" are longer pauses)
User avatar #889 to #322 - nebuchadnezzaurus
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– William Shatner
#899 to #889 - drtrousersnake
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I finally found the guys name to post a comment about how Obama's talks that way to appeal to the sci-fi community then you posted that
I finally found the guys name to post a comment about how Obama's talks that way to appeal to the sci-fi community then you posted that
#1247 to #899 - rennat
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#170 - ShockedNazi
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theres other ways of birth control









poop chute
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User avatar #341 to #291 - jewpiter
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Calling BS right now. If a bill is unconstitutional then the Supreme Court would shut that **** down.
User avatar #406 to #341 - badsamaritan
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executive order
#403 to #341 - lunarflare
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Except the Supreme Court Judges are appointed by the President, and he won't appoint someone that will block his agenda.
User avatar #484 to #403 - salmonofdoubt
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Obama has only nominated two Supreme Court Justices in his four years
#492 to #484 - lunarflare
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That's still two people who can try to persuade the others. Not saying they won't veto ****, just saying the more her appoints, the less likely it is that they will.

Also: NDAA.
User avatar #682 to #291 - dayasalion
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>implying he's the only president who has ever done that.
Because Bush totally got a declaration of war from congress, before invading iraq.
#1183 to #682 - kevlarx
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technically you dont have to, its just not classified as war. the invasion of nam was the same way
User avatar #1162 to #291 - sammyjankiis
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Those ARE BIG Generalizations with no facts to back it up. Where are all these bills? I haven't heard of any. Stop spewing Republican propaganda unless you have some facts.
User avatar #1014 to #291 - popkornking
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Congratulations, you have just described every president since Washington.
#409 to #291 - anon id: 9b3ae35a
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so what? half of that stupid thing isn't relevant any more anyway.
#527 to #291 - anon id: d59304bc
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this guy uses political words in a way that makes it believable let's all agree despite most of us knowing next to nothing on this topic
User avatar #1160 to #291 - armenhart
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dude pretty much every single president did things he wasn't supposed to do.
#892 to #291 - yomommabinshoppin
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This reply isn't entirely related to your comment, but I am commenting here to give my comment more of a chance for it to be seen so I can see what other people think

Last time I checked, the whole birth-control/religious debacle was because they tried forcing the Catholic church to supply birth control to their employees if they do so desire, and the church said "**** you, we believe that birth control is wrong and shouldn't have to supply something that can be cheaply acquired elsewhere and is against our beliefs"
#334 to #291 - swiftcashew
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Could you give me an example of either? Not that I'm trying to argue, I'm honestly just curious.
User avatar #1313 to #334 - giblets
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He extended the Patriot Act
#999 - proffessionaltroll
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I like Obama
User avatar #1050 to #999 - OMGROFLMAO
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Me too
#1 - beren
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(1) Where did he actually say this? (2) Birth control is not a basic human right. Controlling whether you have sex with other people is. (3) Religious freedom does mean that those intolerant of religion cannot force religious people to act in a certain way. I am ready for your hate.
#6 to #1 - shadowspeaker
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there's a limit to religious freedom. no one can force anything on anyone, so of course there are going to be limits on what a religious group can do.
#1170 to #1 - repugnantpug
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reproductive rights are a basic human right. and it's not always that a woman actually has a choice in it (yeah, i do mean rape). and he isn't saying that religious people have to act in certain ways, just that they can't do certain things that break down basic human rights.

and also it's not always about who said it, but about what is being said. if an anon had said it, or ******* hitler (not that he would), it wouldn't diminish what is being said.
#8 to #1 - anon id: 44c89a69
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Ready for hate? Bitch you're not ready for anything. ******* little virgins running around the internet preaching about birth control. ************ birth control should be a basic human right cause unlike abstinence it actually ******* works. Did you plan to stop the spreading of AIDS in Africa by asking them nicely to have less sex? You think that would work? No? Well ain't that ******* dandy. Oh hey I got an idea: how about some ******* condoms *******? Yeah those might actually work.
User avatar #38 to #8 - grocer
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Faggot anon virgin.
#930 to #8 - anon id: 3ee4b602
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By your logic, not having sex does not work as well as birth control?
Don't get me wrong. I love being on the pill, but I'm pretty sure not having sex is 100% effective in not producing a child. Plus it's free.
Oh, and condoms are never 100%, *******.
#9 to #8 - anon id: 44c89a69
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Also you religious ******* aren't forced to ******* anything except respecting other peoples decisions that are none of your ************* business. Don't want an abortion? Don't ******* get one. Don't want to use birth control? Don't use it. But when other people decide otherwise you should know to shut the **** up even if it's against what you believe.
User avatar #13 to #9 - HarvietheDinkle
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Concerning the abortion part:

From a pro-life point of view, that's similar to saying "don't like people killing other people? Just don't kill people yourself and it should be fine."
User avatar #347 to #13 - slyve
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Well, in the beginning it's just a bunch of cells, it takes some time before it can actually be considered a human being. I don't know when that point is, that might be up for debate, but there are limits. At a certain point an abortion becomes illegal (I think it's 3 months where i live, not sure, though.)

I can understand the "Pro-life" point of view, but at the point of conception and some time after that, i just isn't a human being yet.

Also, a lot of "pro-life" people are hypocrites. The care so much about preserving life while it's in a random Womans womb, but once the baby is born, they stop giving a ****. What if she wanted an abortion because she is unable to care for her child? Mentally or financially? Of course she should have considered before she had sex, but that doesn't help the kid much after people forced her to have it, does it?
User avatar #362 to #347 - HarvietheDinkle
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Just clarifying: I'm not part of the extreme pro-life camp.

I'm part of the "past a certain point you shouldn't get an abortion" side.
User avatar #364 to #362 - slyve
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Oh, alright. My bad.
#162 to #13 - anon id: 90c63d93
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Except that in this case, the 'killed' part is a fetus, inside someone else's womb. That person can determine wether she wants that child or not, and yes, that means that she can get an abortion. If you are against this, just don't do it. Ok?
Now shut up.
#360 to #162 - HarvietheDinkle
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Wow aren't you the little butthurt douche of the day.   
   
A child doesn't "belong" to you, from the pro-life point of view, so much that you have say over its life. It has rights of its own to live. Just because it's in your womb doesn't mean that it isn't human yet.   
   
Notice, also, how I didn't identify myself with the pro-life view.
Wow aren't you the little butthurt douche of the day.

A child doesn't "belong" to you, from the pro-life point of view, so much that you have say over its life. It has rights of its own to live. Just because it's in your womb doesn't mean that it isn't human yet.

Notice, also, how I didn't identify myself with the pro-life view.
#160 to #9 - anon id: 90c63d93
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Althought I can agree with your point of view I think that you are overeacting, and therefore, being a little bitch.
So take a chill pill dude, or girl. Just think that they are trolls and all will be fine
User avatar #1344 to #1 - cadencee
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" Religious freedom does mean that those intolerant of religion cannot force religious people to act in a certain way"

Wut. No one forces anyone to use birth control.
User avatar #60 to #1 - Mortuus
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In theory, abstinence, pills, patches, etc. are all forms of birth control.
User avatar #335 to #1 - slyve
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1. No idea. Given it's a quote on the Internet, I'd not take it at face value until someone provides a trustworthy source.
2. Birth control isn't a basic human right, but the choice whether or not to use it is. Self determination.
3. True, but no one said they can. And I have yet to hear of a case where that actually happened.

Sorry, no hatred today.
User avatar #818 to #1 - alltimetens
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Point is, some people don't share your beliefs, thereby not having to follow your religious laws. The only laws that apply to all citizens are the laws that are passed by the federal government.
User avatar #4 to #1 - superpats
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all in all, you didn't say anything disagreeable.
#11 to #1 - teranin
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#3 to #1 - whalepenis
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Religious freedom goes both ways, much like op.   
Religious people can't be like, "Hey YO. My book says that ****** immoral, so **** you and everyone near you."   
And no hate, I love you.
Religious freedom goes both ways, much like op.
Religious people can't be like, "Hey YO. My book says that ****** immoral, so **** you and everyone near you."
And no hate, I love you.
User avatar #36 to #3 - grocer
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Thumb for sneaking in "OP is a faggot", very effectively.
#869 - TheCynic
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Opinions Ahead:

I can't take it anymore. I have to express my controversial opinion- I can't keep it in anymore.

If we're talking about abortion (which we are, it's always associated for Women's Rights) we're dealing with something a lot more complicated than religious issues.

The abortion debate withers down to this- is a fetus a living thing? You can argue this back and forth because as of currently, there is no correct answer for this and the biggest issue with pro-life and pro-choice debates are that neither side will bother listening to anything that the other has to say.

Before the third trimester, you can argue that since a fetus has no brain activity and doesn't feel anything it isn't alive and therefore has no rights. On the otherhand, is brain activity really all that there is to life? Does it matter? Should have this fetus have rights?

Simply put, though, the answers to these questions are almost purely philosophical- based on personal belief and opinion. And because personal belief and opinion are basic freedoms, abortion cannot be made illegal based on personal perception. Whose perception are we going for for matters like the law?

But also- because it's based on perception, we cannot force other people to pay for or have one. So while I think that basic birth control is something that I think is a good idea to be covered with health care, I don't think we should make people pay for something that has provides some very ethical dilemmas and is such a hot button issue for so many people.

Please don't eat me alive. It's just an opinion. I could be wrong.
#884 to #869 - anon id: 3ee4b602
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I wish I could thumb you up.
User avatar #916 to #869 - churrundo
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I think it's important to call it not a living thing but a living human, since people do not hesitate to kill chickens, for example, also living things...
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User avatar #1318 to #869 - giblets
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What I find funny is that the people who argue against abortion tend to be right wing, more specifically Republican, to generalise, but these are the same people who are in favour of the death penalty
User avatar #1327 to #1318 - supermegasherman
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abortion is not the same as the death penalty
User avatar #1329 to #1327 - giblets
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I know it's not.
But when they use the logic that it's wrong to kill a living human, then it become hypocritical.
User avatar #1333 to #1329 - supermegasherman
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an unborn fetus is defenseless and innocent, while bubba the murderous buttblaster committed a hefty crime. its more about taking responsibility for one's actions rather than respect for human life. because lets face it, which bothers you more, a human dying in a movie or a dog? most people will answer dog.
User avatar #1335 to #1333 - giblets
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I get that, but some say it's wrong to take a life all together. Which is why it's hypocritical.

I don't agree with the death penalty full stop, but I understand the idea behind it.
User avatar #1339 to #1335 - supermegasherman
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oh absolutely, if you are truly against taking life altogether then you should be against the death penalty too. hypocrites are my worst pet peeve
User avatar #1343 to #1339 - giblets
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I'm against the death penalty but pro-choice.
I'm against the death penalty because there is too much room for error with sentencing, and it's a fully grown adult human.

I don't believe a fetus under a certain amount of weeks to be a living thing, as it is still part of the mother.
User avatar #1346 to #1343 - supermegasherman
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why not give it a chance you know? maybe that child might win the next nobel prize or go off to harvard; maybe that child is the next president. besides think of what that mother has to deal with, she'll have that unborn child looming over her head the rest of her life. its pretty depressing.
User avatar #1351 to #1346 - giblets
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I'm not forcing women to have an abortion! I'm just saying that the choice should be there.

The earth is already over populated, and resources are stretched thin.
User avatar #1432 to #1351 - supermegasherman
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even if its not forced its still not a good idea. besides, they made the choice already. unprotected sex comes at a cost. people need to realize that they can't be a kid forever, the consequences of one's actions need to be acknowledged and respected. not taken away. responsibility is an important stepping stone in life, all the more reason to preserve it.
User avatar #1436 to #1432 - giblets
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Would you allow it in cases of rape then?
User avatar #1446 to #1436 - supermegasherman
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yes. but that is the only exception
#1326 to #869 - supermegasherman
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i like your objectivity even though i do not fully agree
i like your objectivity even though i do not fully agree
#900 to #869 - IAMDIZZYONFANTA
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Actually, you have what is known as a Right Opinion.
User avatar #913 to #869 - majortomcomics
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I completely agree, and, added to that, it should be basic knowledge that the risk of fermentation is there. You shouldn't expect the middle class to pay for your mistakes.
User avatar #1330 to #913 - supermegasherman
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life is about taking responsibility not thrusting on someone else


yay
User avatar #917 to #869 - churrundo
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I still completely agree on your view
#587 - horsechest
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#613 to #587 - DrPeppir
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Actually, one hand is in the woman's womb.
Actually, one hand is in the woman's womb.
User avatar #817 to #587 - buttinspecter
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That's the answer I've been looking for this whole time.
#919 - miscarriage
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I'm getting mentioned a lot on this content.

mfw i think someone actually cares about me
User avatar #922 to #919 - flixoe
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**flixoe rolled user bitchitroll ** I care about you very much miscarriage but I care about this person more. Sorry...
User avatar #929 to #922 - miscarriage
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<3
#971 to #919 - anon id: 919498bb
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Where were you when my ex wanted to keep the rape-baby? ,_,
User avatar #976 to #971 - miscarriage
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I...

I don't know..
#979 to #976 - anon id: 919498bb
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Well, i seriously needed out of that relationship, and that happened to be the final push, so i forgive you :3
User avatar #983 to #979 - miscarriage
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Thank you for your forgiveness.
User avatar #948 to #919 - windmagevaati
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I care about you...
User avatar #957 to #948 - miscarriage
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I love you.
User avatar #960 to #957 - windmagevaati
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YAY, GRANDMASTER LOVES ME!!! Wait, are you still emu's master?
User avatar #966 to #960 - miscarriage
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ohhh

Uhm that ended today.
User avatar #1008 to #966 - windmagevaati
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Oh, if you didn't already know, I'm cannibalsalad. I mean it when I say I'm sorry for spamming the pony thread and getting myself banned. I know some people probably hate me now... and I understand if you do too. I don't know exactly why I carried out that stupid spam... I guess I was just bored.
User avatar #1012 to #1008 - miscarriage
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It's okay <3
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^_^
User avatar #970 to #966 - windmagevaati
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Aw...
Okay! ^_^
#921 to #919 - skinless
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...i like you
#928 to #921 - miscarriage
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yay

mfw someone really does care about me
#935 to #928 - dishie
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I'll love you more then you'll ever know..
#940 to #935 - miscarriage
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so sex now?
#943 to #940 - dishie
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Yes.
Yes.
#944 to #943 - miscarriage
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sweet
User avatar #485 - nugafluga
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**** obama
User avatar #1149 to #485 - whalefister
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you spelled "suck" wrong
User avatar #254 - Onemanretardpack
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Context is important. In this speech, he was bashing religious charities for not providing birth control to women. Like it's against their religion, and he's trying to make them do it anyways.
User avatar #273 to #254 - ishalltroll
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He simply implied that the church has to get with the times and return to the real world where we're starting to have trouble feeding the world...
User avatar #1030 to #273 - Onemanretardpack
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Freedom of religion and separation of church and state work both ways. We can't tell them what to do, as much as they can't push for their beliefs to become law.
User avatar #1415 to #1030 - ishalltroll
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Oh really? The church fired a priest in germany because he came out of the closet as being gay. And that's precisely the reason they mentioned to fire him.
This breaks german federal law as well as the fundamental human rights as prescribed in the german constitution.
They practically go over federal law simply because they're the church. It's illegal as can be.
User avatar #1439 to #1415 - Onemanretardpack
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Yeah well that's Germany. I can't speak for their laws and customs, but I can speak for my country's. Here, you're not allowed to tell the church what to do with it's organization, and they can't influence the government
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User avatar #1099 to #254 - mrbuu
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Well then he is wrong. its not a basic right for birth control it was something created by people to fight bull **** other people deal with. I don't think people should pay for diet pills or a stomach staple because I choose to eat alot and be a fat ass. and women (on the 90%) chose to have sex and be pregnant. Just a opinion.