Jack the Time Traveller. .. He managed to cock block himself out of existance Jack the Time Traveller He managed to cock block himself out of existance
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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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User avatar #6 - derangedberger
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That's a paradox though
#7 to #6 - nazguultje
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That's why he's fading out
User avatar #8 to #7 - derangedberger
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No, not that.
If he were to go back in time and stop himself from being born, he would never exist. If he never existed, he could never go back in time to stop himself from being born. Thus, he is born, and goes back in time and stops himself from being born and so on. It's called the Grandfather Paradox.
#30 to #8 - whoovesthedoctor
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unless, of course, time isn't a strict progression of cause to effect, but *actually* from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - is more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff.
unless, of course, time isn't a strict progression of cause to effect, but *actually* from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - is more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff.
User avatar #77 to #30 - psychodreadnought
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or Steins;Gate was right all along
#145 to #77 - kyleassante
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Steins Gate is best
#116 to #30 - lamarisagoodname
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the brony's logic is very sound and it's an argument I use all the time, nobody has successfully explained to me the concept of time being non-linear
#137 to #116 - winglit
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Well think of it like this the invention of a time machine would alter the very meaning of time, see we view it as traveling down a stream, but a time machine by its very nature is going from one point to another and avoiding the points in between, so if time is like a straight line
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theres no way to cut out any bits of time you cant move from 1 point to another without going through the river or next to it, you cant avoid time
but if time travel were made posible
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it bends the river and lets you cross at the bent points... I just ******** that entire thing btw so i could be entirely wrong but thats what id assume, i mean there is no expert on time travel, so any opinion is valid
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User avatar #163 to #137 - lamarisagoodname
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but you're travelling through time, not randomly teleporting. you can move backwards along a line, can't you?
#321 to #163 - winglit
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well yes i suppose but im thinking that the invention of a time machine would be a lot like putting a dam in the river to divert its flow along a path we want, were caught in the current naturally and going upstream is pretty tough, so i think the invention of a time machine changes the nature of time, and we wouldnt be going along the river because its current can carry us downstream anyway if we want to travel to the future without waiting wed need to bend that stream and cross at a bank
User avatar #322 to #116 - rieskimo
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I'm going to make this as simple as I can. Linear time is seeing time as a series of rivers, splitting at every choice et cetera. Non-linear time would be seeing time as a series of pools, close but never touching. You could jump from pool to pool without effecting your own pool, versus linear you would effect the future splits thus creating different time streams and changing the course of any time stream you are present in.
#101 to #30 - greenthegunstar
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See, this is why I didn't play Final Fantasy 13-2.
See, this is why I didn't play Final Fantasy 13-2.
User avatar #59 to #30 - aldheim
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Or he built a paradox machine.
#280 to #8 - rectophobia
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#103 to #8 - turbodoosh
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You were saying?
User avatar #149 to #8 - OminousDemon
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this can be explained through dbz logic
where if u go back in time it starts a new timeline so as to not disrupt the future that wouldve happened otherwise
#306 to #8 - drhoffable
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but in order for him to actually go back in time he must have been born atleast once for the idea of him traveling back in time to even occur
User avatar #289 to #8 - ohgodmysides
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Who says that's the sex in which the son is going to be made?
User avatar #246 to #8 - xdiabolicx
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OR parallel universes.
User avatar #240 to #8 - undeadwill
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Unless this is the reality that he exists and goes back thus the next reality he does not exist
User avatar #224 to #8 - asmodeu
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That paradox is solved by implying (>) the idea of creating an alternate universe the moment you travel back in time. Any changes you make there will not affect the universe in your actual time. Any little thing you change can completely mess up the future (even taking a dump).
User avatar #87 to #8 - shyyk
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But then there's also the possibility of multiple world lines occurring or him never being able to stop them from having sex. If time is linear with only a singular "line" then no matter what he did, he'd never be able to alter an event that caused him to go to the past. For example, if I went back and shot my grandfather, we'd have a paradox. However, since it affected me going back in time, it's possible the event could never happen. The gun may jam, bullet misses, etc.

But if there are multiple world lines, then two worlds will exist: one where they had a very fun night, and one where their kid screwed everything up just like he probably did for the next 18 years. In one he will exist, while in another, he will not exist. The question is, would he be able to traverse "lines" and live in a world where he never existed?

TL:DR: You go back in time, you get screwed up the ass one way or another.
#41 to #8 - anon id: a02d761e
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yeah, but the grandfather paradox is such a chliché
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#14 to #8 - newborn
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clearly the sexings still happened
User avatar #231 to #6 - gorginhanson
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time travel is always a paradox
User avatar #228 to #6 - lazerpickle
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the paradox argument is pointless anyway, seeing as backwards time travel isn't possible.
#250 to #6 - musclemarinade
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I like to think of the theory of branching timelines for questions like this. While he was born in one time line, going back and stopping himself from being born creates an alternate timeline where he was never born yet at the same time still exists. Pic somewhat related
User avatar #156 to #6 - Fgner
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However, that's making assumptions of the nature of time. If you were to look at time as a physical existance, rather than a metaphysical concept, the paradox is solved easily.

I'll elaborate: If you go back in time, your existence is now manifested in the previous timeframe. When you do something like prevent your own birth, it has no influence on you, because you're existence is no longer in the future timeframe. The physical matter in that timeframe is moved, and therefore incapable of being influenced by past events. So while you are never born to go back in time, you are already back in time and therefore don't need to be born to go back in time. I'll make a pretty picture later.

Essentially, it's extremely hard to explain and I'm probably not getting it along correctly - Doctor Who's explanation of wibble wobbley timey wimey stuff is pretty much spot on.
#206 to #156 - blindkungfumasta
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I followed it, but when and if he goes back to the future, would that mean he has no identity? Or would he go to a different future in a parallel dimension where he was born?
#239 to #206 - Fgner
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That's the brilliance of it. If he goes forward in time, the future will be the modified future of what happened because of his presence in the previous timeframe. If that means he wasn't born, then exactly, he'd have no identity - But he'd still exist exactly the same. Memories in tact and everything.
User avatar #329 to #206 - Fgner
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Oh, but if he goes forward in time and he WAS still born but never went back in time - His new self will exist as a separate entity...
That could cause some problems.
#253 to #156 - cauhgon
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Essentially you create an alternate universe, right?
User avatar #283 to #253 - giblets
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The way I understand it you're just changing this universe, rather than creating a new one
User avatar #25 to #6 - hammerfell
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What paradox? He activated a cloaking device so they think he's gone and he can watch, obviously.
User avatar #22 - kiricy
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He managed to cock block himself out of existance
User avatar #58 to #22 - aldheim
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He would make Harry Potter proud.
#4 - Formus
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cool story Brian
#229 to #4 - anonyrnoose
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This had nothing to do with luck, though...
#73 - probablynaked
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#1 - kcormahs
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My mind just went to a really, really weird place
User avatar #207 to #1 - mailstrom
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proudest moment of my existence. someone using my material

www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/4071417/STAHP/

inb4 cool story bro
#230 to #207 - anonyrnoose
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Good job. You've used a cancerous meme of which should have died long ago.
#70 - workitout
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Time travel will never happen.    
   
If they invented it in the future, somebody would have already came back to tell us.
Time travel will never happen.

If they invented it in the future, somebody would have already came back to tell us.
User avatar #79 to #70 - departed
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Or they don't want to send anyone back that we can see as that would cause a paradox.
User avatar #86 to #70 - gameshredder
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What if it's only observable time travel. Where they can't effect anything they touch, and can only observer things from the past. And we here in the past can't see them.
User avatar #166 to #86 - Dwarf
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Then they're about to see me bust a load in the **** section.
#181 to #166 - workitout
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By far the funniest comment I've read in weeks.
By far the funniest comment I've read in weeks.
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User avatar #330 to #70 - Keidis
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Didn't read all of the comments yet, but I've heard from several time theories about how time is like a river that would be split into smaller streams once time travel is unlocked.

Thus; If you travel back to stop Hitler, you create a completely different time line where Hitler never exists, and the one where the damage is already done, stays as is.
You'd never be able to actually permanently change your own past.

Also, if time travel WERE possible, I'm quite sure that EVERY country that has it would be VERY conservative with it and NOT use it often. Could cause colossal damage such as butterfly effects.

Say if they DID go into the past to change something, like killing an infamous bad guy, it may cause a butterfly effect that would cause someone even WORSE to follow in the same timeline as him/her; making it nearly impossible to stop a horrible snowballing effect. History MUST happen how it has to happen, if not, we'd never learn from the problems of the past and build our future.

TL;DR **** yourself, you're reading. :)
#334 to #70 - anon id: 8fececf4
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No they wouldn't, because the butterfly effect could cause that much of a dramatic change on the events that follow in the present to cause all sorts of terrible things.

P.S, anon because it won't let me log in whilst I'm at work.
User avatar #121 to #70 - yentabear
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What if nobody came back to this specific time, but came back in a further date from now because we weren't ready at this time?
#130 to #70 - winglit
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What if they did come back and tell us but because we hadnt invented it yet we didnt realize he was telling the truth and took what he was saying as SCI FI and thats how we developed the idea for time travel in the first place
User avatar #319 to #70 - torkildsen
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If someone traveled to our time or before that they would likely just blend in like a ************ to avoid anything to change. Time travel will probably only be used for gathering of lost information or gain of new technology. It's not possible, though so I don't know why I'm discussing it...
#189 to #70 - pencildick
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or or or maybe they traveled later for us to tell us at a later date
#135 to #70 - Alchemyst
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Quite frankly,  I subscribe to the Split-Timeline version, where each BACKWARDS time travel creates a branching timeline at the point of reentry into the timestream. It's one of the only time travel theories that prevents the creation of a paradox, but it does mean that truly altering the past is impossible, for your own timeline at least. All you'll do is create a new timeline where a foreign factor (You) was introduced, changing the outcome of any future events.   
   
So in answer to your question, if someone invented time travel in OUR future, in the Alpha timeline, they would be going back and telling people in the Beta timeline that they invented it, which may well prevent the invention of time travel in the Beta future since they already have it.   
   
Pic related, my favorite time-traveler.
Quite frankly, I subscribe to the Split-Timeline version, where each BACKWARDS time travel creates a branching timeline at the point of reentry into the timestream. It's one of the only time travel theories that prevents the creation of a paradox, but it does mean that truly altering the past is impossible, for your own timeline at least. All you'll do is create a new timeline where a foreign factor (You) was introduced, changing the outcome of any future events.

So in answer to your question, if someone invented time travel in OUR future, in the Alpha timeline, they would be going back and telling people in the Beta timeline that they invented it, which may well prevent the invention of time travel in the Beta future since they already have it.

Pic related, my favorite time-traveler.
User avatar #164 to #70 - psykojet
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So what if that guy at the local 7/11 last week wasn't lying?
User avatar #92 to #70 - garymotherfinoak
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travelling to the past isn't possible. but to the future it is.
User avatar #118 to #92 - lamarisagoodname
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you're on to something here, please expand
User avatar #142 to #118 - garymotherfinoak
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42. that's all you need to know.
#192 to #118 - anon id: 83fa6d7a
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So anyway, what my nemesis failed to explain is that we are already constantly moving forward in time however, depending on your position in space, time progresses at a different speed. Some things that affect this speed are gravity and velocity. For example, gravity exerted on satellites is less than whats exerted on objects on earths surface, so satellites that use timers (such as gps satellites) have to compensate by keeping time at a different pace than clocks that what is kept on the surface of the earth. Also the reason it's impossible to move backwards in time is because it's believed that the energy required to do so would be greater than all the energy in the known universe.
#132 - kubrick
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Is... is uh... that considered suicide?
Is... is uh... that considered suicide?
User avatar #148 to #132 - tankerdude
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PARADOX
#225 - hamishthehamster
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**falconxmard rolls 36**
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**Walkingdragon rolls 44** DOOO EETTTT
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**hamishthehamster rolls 38**
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#139 - chaotixx
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People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but *actually* from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint - it's more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly... time-y wimey... stuff.
User avatar #5 - areo0420
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Grandfather Paradox...
he just broke the universe, unless the multi universe does exist, in which case this is not how it would happen, he'd simply enter a time flow or what have you...
User avatar #9 to #5 - odonnell
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if the multi-verse theory was legit, then there would be a universe of which the multi-verse theory didn't exist.
#12 to #9 - areo0420
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that argument is fallacious.
you are applying a principle of the whole to a part, similar to the following statement:

American Buffalo are practically extinct.
<--- this is an american buffalo, so that means it's practically extinct.

or this one, if the previous one didn't make sense to you:
America is a wealthy nation. Mitchel is an American, so he must be wealthy.
User avatar #13 to #12 - areo0420
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unless of course you are referring to the fact that the theory does not exist.
If it's real, than that makes it a law. the lack of the theory only means nobody thought of it yet, not that it's not true.
if that's what you were saying than you're right.
User avatar #23 to #9 - taintedangel
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it would mean that in one universe, no one ever came up with the theory, therefore most if not all the branching universes won't have that theory.
User avatar #11 to #9 - misterymisterman
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Not exactly - the multiverse theory allows for a universe for every possible world. If there was a multiverse, then there could not be a universe in which the multiverse theory was false, so that isn't a problem. Fundamentals don't change. In the same way, you couldn't have a universe where nothing was made up of atoms.

There could be one where the theory didn't exist, because nobody had proposed it, but that's not the same thing at all and would be inconsequential.
#10 to #9 - faoneone
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that universe would be destroyed instantly due to the energetic imbalance and time flow repetition causing unending ripples int he continuum of that universe, if that universe were to exist, the multi-verse wouldn't exist as an >option< to "vent" the time frame and energetic loops, which would be the only possible way it exists, or in shorter words, multi-verse is the theory of every >possible< outcome of the universe, that universe you mentioned is >impossible< there fore it cannot exist even in the multi-verse theory....just saying