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Not really, their plans and what they have done are totally different. Bush crashed the economy with two wars and too many tax cuts with too much spending; Obama is raising taxes on the rich and trying to cut spending to get the economy back up, which is improving slightly. It pisses me off that Obama drone strikes the fuck out of everyone, but he didn't start two illegal wars. He's better than Bush, but he isn't a great president by any means. I'd say he's okay.
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moshpittmatt **User deleted account** (02/16/2013) [-]
And all that money spent on failing banks only to have them fail IMMEDIATELY afterwards is definitely the same as cutting spending. He still can't get a budget through. Is that entirely his fault? No. He has to compromise with those on Capitol Hill in order for it to go through. Will he do that? No. He keeps trying to push the same fucking budget even though he knows it won't go through. Do you know what that does? Because he doesn't have a final budget cut out, he can keep spending like he has been because there's nothing to tell him not to. And raising taxes after having let the value of the dollar fall even further doesn't really fix anything. It will minimize the damage done, but it won't really fix anything. What needs to happen is all this bullshit welfare for people who are too fucking lazy to get off their asses (not the elderly, disabled, or those who are looking for a better life which is who it was actually meant for) needs to stop. Clinton put a policy through that required people to either have a job or be actively searching for one, and they had to prove they were actually trying, in order to receive welfare. Guess who repealed that though?! Let's just give all the money to lazy assholes in the ghetto. And with the whole healthcare thing, people will be leeching off the government more than ever. The younger generation, along with the middle to lower class, generally favors the Democratic Party of the Republican Party. Why is this? Because they think it favors them more than the rich people. While this could be argued, many people don't realize how easy it would be to get out of whatever financial predicament they are in because they don't have the fucking self control and willpower to budget themselves and not spend money on frivolous things.
/endrant
/endrant
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N. Korean citizen (02/16/2013) [-]
You obviously don't know what you are talking about. Economically, Obama has been just about the worst decision we could have made. Sure he won't waste our dollars funding a war, but he will waste it in other ways. For example, did you know that medicaid and medicare costs were expected to more than double in the next 10 years? Obamacare will actually make that figure even worse, and cause many other programs to provide fewer benefits, just so we can attempt to pay for it. His tax the rich plan will never work. People vastly overestimate how much the rich can contribute to taxes, and many people completely ignore the fact that we are on a marginal tax system. He definitely isn't trying to cut spending. In fact, his spending has been worse than Bushes, just on different items. He has taken credit for so many things that he did not do or that would have been done by any President--he was just lucky enough to be the on in office at the time. I will agree that he isn't the worst president, he isn't the best, but he isn't that much better than Bush, if he is at all.
tl;dr Obama is a terrible President. Maybe not the worst, but not much better than Bush if he is at all.
tl;dr Obama is a terrible President. Maybe not the worst, but not much better than Bush if he is at all.
Obamacare has it's pros and cons. I'll be able to stay on my parent's insurance till I'm 26, that's very helpful. Obamacare doesn't even completely socialize healthcare, it really just puts more restrictions and regulations on insurance companies. I don't mind paying for other people's care either, I'm happy that they're getting help from me. Sharing is caring. Of course, like I said earlier, there are plenty of downsides as well.
A doctor's opinion on health care is actually rather important, being that they are likely the most informed when it comes to health care in general. And for the most part the "rich" being affected by Obama's taxes are wealthy businessmen, not small-time doctors
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N. Korean citizen (02/15/2013) [-]
Bush wasn't the only president who took part in crashing the economy. In fact, it wasn't even just America. It's the entire world economy that shriveled up and died over a course of 30 years.
Not saying Bush was a good president, he wasn't at all, but he wasn't the worst. We only notice how bad presidents are doing when the economy is bad - the president could be the biggest fuck up of the century but be hailed as amazing because the economy is on a good track when he comes into power.
Not saying Bush was a good president, he wasn't at all, but he wasn't the worst. We only notice how bad presidents are doing when the economy is bad - the president could be the biggest fuck up of the century but be hailed as amazing because the economy is on a good track when he comes into power.
This is a big problem with people. Half of the people think he's doing a great job (Which is not true) and the other half think he's satan/hitler/TheGuyThatCancelledFirefly all rolled into one (Which is equally untrue)
He's doing what needs to be done and doing it in a efficient way. Some good has happened in his presidency (Osama being killed, gay marriage has taken a good step, etc) but they weren't directly caused by him. He's a pretty good president, but not great.
He's doing what needs to be done and doing it in a efficient way. Some good has happened in his presidency (Osama being killed, gay marriage has taken a good step, etc) but they weren't directly caused by him. He's a pretty good president, but not great.