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User avatar #11 - cullenatorguy (02/15/2013) [-]
Not really, their plans and what they have done are totally different. Bush crashed the economy with two wars and too many tax cuts with too much spending; Obama is raising taxes on the rich and trying to cut spending to get the economy back up, which is improving slightly. It pisses me off that Obama drone strikes the fuck out of everyone, but he didn't start two illegal wars. He's better than Bush, but he isn't a great president by any means. I'd say he's okay.
User avatar #49 to #11 - whyisthissohard **User deleted account** (02/16/2013) [-]
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#44 to #11 - N. Korean citizen (02/16/2013) [-]
It sounds like you're getting fed a daily dose of bullshit.
User avatar #40 to #11 - ninjalazor ONLINE (02/16/2013) [-]
why do people get mad about drone strikes? would you rather have soldiers go back into war and risk being killed?
User avatar #74 to #40 - thenukecity (02/16/2013) [-]
Well you know, rather people that enlisted to serve than civilians that have been living in war zones before they became war zones.
User avatar #47 to #40 - cullenatorguy (02/16/2013) [-]
It's our war, not theirs. We should be the ones taking causalities, not them.
#39 to #11 - N. Korean citizen (02/16/2013) [-]
cullenatorguy : "hurr durr I don't understand basic economics nor American government"
#38 to #11 - moshpittmatt **User deleted account** (02/16/2013) [-]
And all that money spent on failing banks only to have them fail IMMEDIATELY afterwards is definitely the same as cutting spending. He still can't get a budget through. Is that entirely his fault? No. He has to compromise with those on Capitol Hill in order for it to go through. Will he do that? No. He keeps trying to push the same fucking budget even though he knows it won't go through. Do you know what that does? Because he doesn't have a final budget cut out, he can keep spending like he has been because there's nothing to tell him not to. And raising taxes after having let the value of the dollar fall even further doesn't really fix anything. It will minimize the damage done, but it won't really fix anything. What needs to happen is all this bullshit welfare for people who are too fucking lazy to get off their asses (not the elderly, disabled, or those who are looking for a better life which is who it was actually meant for) needs to stop. Clinton put a policy through that required people to either have a job or be actively searching for one, and they had to prove they were actually trying, in order to receive welfare. Guess who repealed that though?! Let's just give all the money to lazy assholes in the ghetto. And with the whole healthcare thing, people will be leeching off the government more than ever. The younger generation, along with the middle to lower class, generally favors the Democratic Party of the Republican Party. Why is this? Because they think it favors them more than the rich people. While this could be argued, many people don't realize how easy it would be to get out of whatever financial predicament they are in because they don't have the fucking self control and willpower to budget themselves and not spend money on frivolous things.
/endrant
#36 to #11 - N. Korean citizen (02/16/2013) [-]
You obviously don't know what you are talking about. Economically, Obama has been just about the worst decision we could have made. Sure he won't waste our dollars funding a war, but he will waste it in other ways. For example, did you know that medicaid and medicare costs were expected to more than double in the next 10 years? Obamacare will actually make that figure even worse, and cause many other programs to provide fewer benefits, just so we can attempt to pay for it. His tax the rich plan will never work. People vastly overestimate how much the rich can contribute to taxes, and many people completely ignore the fact that we are on a marginal tax system. He definitely isn't trying to cut spending. In fact, his spending has been worse than Bushes, just on different items. He has taken credit for so many things that he did not do or that would have been done by any President--he was just lucky enough to be the on in office at the time. I will agree that he isn't the worst president, he isn't the best, but he isn't that much better than Bush, if he is at all.

tl;dr Obama is a terrible President. Maybe not the worst, but not much better than Bush if he is at all.
User avatar #55 to #36 - cullenatorguy (02/16/2013) [-]
The economy is improving, I'm not sure how you can say he's a total fuck up.
#31 to #11 - N. Korean citizen (02/16/2013) [-]
bullshit, his recent obamacare fucked with our already weak economy hard
User avatar #32 to #31 - cullenatorguy (02/16/2013) [-]
Obamacare has it's pros and cons. I'll be able to stay on my parent's insurance till I'm 26, that's very helpful. Obamacare doesn't even completely socialize healthcare, it really just puts more restrictions and regulations on insurance companies. I don't mind paying for other people's care either, I'm happy that they're getting help from me. Sharing is caring. Of course, like I said earlier, there are plenty of downsides as well.
User avatar #52 to #32 - snizard (02/16/2013) [-]
Ask any doctor what they think of Obamacare, or any business owner who has to deal with it. It hurts a lot more than it fixes. There's a reason they wouldn't even let anyone read what was in the damn thing until it was passed.
User avatar #81 to #52 - toosexyforyou (02/16/2013) [-]
Dude the rich are already having to pay more taxes because of Obama, you really want to ask them about their opinion of anything related to Obama? And what does a doctor's opinion of Obamacare even mean?
User avatar #127 to #81 - snizard (02/16/2013) [-]
A doctor's opinion on health care is actually rather important, being that they are likely the most informed when it comes to health care in general. And for the most part the "rich" being affected by Obama's taxes are wealthy businessmen, not small-time doctors
User avatar #54 to #52 - cullenatorguy (02/16/2013) [-]
Like I said, pros and cons. It helps a ton too.
#14 to #11 - N. Korean citizen (02/15/2013) [-]
Bush wasn't the only president who took part in crashing the economy. In fact, it wasn't even just America. It's the entire world economy that shriveled up and died over a course of 30 years.

Not saying Bush was a good president, he wasn't at all, but he wasn't the worst. We only notice how bad presidents are doing when the economy is bad - the president could be the biggest fuck up of the century but be hailed as amazing because the economy is on a good track when he comes into power.
User avatar #18 to #14 - cullenatorguy (02/15/2013) [-]
I don't think anyone could top Andrew Jackson.
User avatar #13 to #11 - trimageryan (02/15/2013) [-]
This is a big problem with people. Half of the people think he's doing a great job (Which is not true) and the other half think he's satan/hitler/TheGuyThatCancelledFirefly all rolled into one (Which is equally untrue)

He's doing what needs to be done and doing it in a efficient way. Some good has happened in his presidency (Osama being killed, gay marriage has taken a good step, etc) but they weren't directly caused by him. He's a pretty good president, but not great.
User avatar #23 to #13 - gggman ONLINE (02/16/2013) [-]
This is probably the only good comment about obama i've ever seen on here.

At least someone gets it.
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