Stephen Fry. . it' s now very common to hear people say, Tm rather offended by thats' As ifthat gives them certain rights. his actually nothing more. Ihan a whi Stephen Fry
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it' s now very common to hear
people say, Tm rather offended
by thats' As ifthat gives them
certain rights. his actually
nothing more. Ihan a whine. '1
Find that offensive.' it has no
meaning; it has no purpose; it
has no reason to be respected
as a phrase. , am offended by
that/ Well, so fucking what."
Stephen Fry
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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#21 - gordolicious
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td;dr    
   
   
hfw people bitching
td;dr


hfw people bitching
#33 to #21 - feelythefeel
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Too didn't, didn't read?
Too didn't, didn't read?
#60 to #33 - pjotor
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Too dumb, didn't read
Too dumb, didn't read
#34 to #33 - gordolicious
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im sorry, my mistake. meant tl;dr
im sorry, my mistake. meant tl;dr
#57 - slipknut
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#58 to #57 - slipknut
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#7 - HarvietheDinkle
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#9 to #7 - teranin [OP]
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No, he's saying that instead of saying "I am offended by that" you should stand up for yourself, counterpunch, have a damn discussion, and stop being a bitch by trying to cop out with "I'm offended"
No, he's saying that instead of saying "I am offended by that" you should stand up for yourself, counterpunch, have a damn discussion, and stop being a bitch by trying to cop out with "I'm offended"
#12 to #9 - fuckyosixtyminutes
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That's not what I got out of it, though the underlying concept is sort of similar. What I got out of it was that people think that because they're offended others have some obligation to remedy that, by ceasing saying whatever is causing offense and/or apologizing, when really "I'm offended" doesn't mean **** and doesn't give anyone the right to demand anything of someone else. I read it as more of a "who the **** cares if you're offended?" than a "you shouldn't use 'I'm offended' as an excuse to not confront a conversation head on".
#13 to #12 - teranin [OP]
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Yeah I can certainly see where you would take it that way, but try to look at it from the context of his frustration, it has to do with people trying to shut him up with "I'm offended" when really they should be trying to shut him up with reasoned discussion.  It's kind of like he doesn't like meaningless excuses.
Yeah I can certainly see where you would take it that way, but try to look at it from the context of his frustration, it has to do with people trying to shut him up with "I'm offended" when really they should be trying to shut him up with reasoned discussion. It's kind of like he doesn't like meaningless excuses.
User avatar #26 to #9 - HarvietheDinkle
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The insulter shouldn't be insulting in the first place. Regardless, I think we actually reached the same conclusion, so I don't know why I'm being thumbed down.

I did say that people, in certain cases, use it as a prissy excuse. However, Fry seems to be saying this as if it applies to everything.

Manning up and defending yourself is certainly practical, and will yield much better results, but there's nothing ethically wrong about saying "i'm offended" as long as you have a legit excuse to be offended.
User avatar #17 - waaw
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Well, there's this thing called empathy, and it involves caring about other people besides yourself being happy. It's kind of a big thing.
User avatar #77 to #17 - finni
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That doesn't mean that just because somebody is offended that you should implement a new political policy. "Oh I don't want game marriage because it offends me" "Oh, I don't want there to be drawings and people mocking my prophet" Well *********** huu. There's freedom of speech (where I live) and I have the right to say something that offends you.

That doesn't mean that I should go up to someone and offend him just because I can, but if I have an opinion on something and that offends somebody I give as much ***** as there have been humans walking on the sun.
#83 to #17 - jinkazama
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I find boybands offensive. Yet they're still on TV and the radio all the time. But i've learned to deal with it. By staying away from channels that have them.
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#23 to #20 - namdelliks
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That won't last long.
That won't last long.
User avatar #22 to #17 - blackleather
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Except when people pretend that some thing is offensive, it's because they THINK it's offensive to someone else, but it's not actually offensive to anyone at all. The only reason it even becomes offensive is because said person is too pig-headed and insecure and afraid to make jokes that they try to take away the fun from everyone else.

There's a difference between empathy, and obnoxiousness.
#43 - tomainstream
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That's exactly how I feel if anyone ever says "That's racist" to me. MFW they tell me that.
That's exactly how I feel if anyone ever says "That's racist" to me. MFW they tell me that.
#47 to #43 - tvfreakuk
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mfw someone told me that calling black people "black" was racist and that you're supposed to call them "colored people"
User avatar #95 to #47 - milthyfoustache
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in the UK you're not supposed to call black people coloured because it's offensive WE CAN'T ******* WIN
User avatar #84 to #47 - maskedhippo
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I thought "colored people" was the racist one.
#61 to #47 - anon id: 6441b232
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And yet they are allowed to get my attention by saying "hey white boy!" and that just a-okay.
#56 - anon id: 96f2dd6d
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And yet he's the kind of guy that gets offended when people call him fat.
User avatar #96 to #56 - happypancake
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Is he really, or are you just saying that because he's a little on the heavier side? I seriously doubt he'd take serious offence to a comment on his weight, especially as he's an established comedian and offending people is practically part of his living.
User avatar #59 to #56 - TheseChocodiles
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I don't think you are quite getting point here darling.
#76 - greenthegunstar
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I know. I'm kinda tired of black people where I live going "Oh, that's offensive" to every little thing.

Dude, I'm black too...and I found that funny. Sit your ass down and have a laugh for once.
User avatar #37 - TastyBurger
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Getting offended is completely down to someone's cognitive psychology. They might perceive it one way and get offended, but there are almost an infinite number of other ways you could perceive it. Just because you feel some way, doesn't mean that feeling is correct or justified. Its just your reaction to it.

Here's an example. You're black. Someone white calls someone black "******" on TV. You could get offended and angry. You could also just shrug it off. Its just ridiculous to think you're deserving of special treatment or sympathy just because you took something the wrong way.
#38 to #37 - teranin [OP]
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The point of this quote isn't that people can't or shouldn't be offended, it's that they shouldn't use that as a cop-out to end a conversation, rather they should make their own counterpoints and discuss like an adult exactly what their issues are.  Just blithely saying "I'm offended" and expecting others to give a crap is arrogant in the extreme.
The point of this quote isn't that people can't or shouldn't be offended, it's that they shouldn't use that as a cop-out to end a conversation, rather they should make their own counterpoints and discuss like an adult exactly what their issues are. Just blithely saying "I'm offended" and expecting others to give a crap is arrogant in the extreme.
User avatar #39 to #38 - TastyBurger
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I know what the quote is about, I was just making a point about offence in general. It bothers me how people think being offended means anything. Its really entirely up to you if you get offended. People knee jerk react to all of their emotions and expect something because of it.
#30 - mummyslittlebitch
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The cleverest moment ever on QI

Jimmy Carr is a ******* magician apparently
#42 to #30 - anon id: 5b58e3fa
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especially with his money
User avatar #44 to #30 - DasSpiel
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>Didn't include gay ELF ROMP
User avatar #67 to #44 - threeeighteen
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kebab out
#29 - murdocisgod
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MFW people play the "I'm offended" card.
MFW people play the "I'm offended" card.