http://immigration/

The nose is now like a wart or something.

that face is awesome

My god.... i just now realized why there are so many crumpled up tissues under his bed...

There is a comic called "chix" and the one he is holding called "jiggy jiggy"
Childhood took -2104 damage

I think it is because people that are immigrated tend to hang outside Home Depot for work, and this one gentleman wanted him to get painted.

when i came around you had the correct answer and a red thumb.... info for vexaton and pyra too, that is indeed the joke.

Immigrants wait for work, he offered a "job", turned out to be modeling for a painting

Why, thank you young man.
I don't know why I got red thumbed, maybe because of poor language.
English is my 2nd language.
Thanks though!

Well then... Thanks for bringing me here. Kind of a lame joke, but oh well

Nicely put, Im glad you all said immigrants and not mexicans..

That is fucking awesome. Who is that?!

i have no idea :D

Tit's McGee.

Gym Leader Flannery from Ruby and Sapphire I think

Red thumbs

I don't see why you got the red thumbs. It's Flannery. And Flannery is hot.

I'm not sure why either but idc

I moved to China from the US...learning the local language is not as easy as you make it out to be.

Do you have any idea how much harder it is to learn a language without total immersion. Why would anyone even attempt to do that is beyond me it's just a waste of money. It's not like I can go to Best Buy pick up a Rosetta Stone and be fluent in a language in a few days. You make it out like it's the easiest thing in the world to just suddenly form thoughts in a foreign tongue and just spit it out like a local.

Wow I really don't think you understood what I said about total immersion so I'm just gonna go to bed now. Enjoy hating minorities and the down trodden.

Yeah, I think most immigrants have more important motivations than that. If they want to leave their country and move to a new one, the prospect of learning a new language is probably not going to stop them. They'd either just learn the language, or try to get by without it.

My grandfather is 81 years old. He immigrated (legally) along with the rest of my family when he was in his 60s. He spoke very little or no English before coming to the US and has poor hearing on top of that. Is it reasonable to expect him to learn a new language at that point?
I'm not saying you or anyone else is obligated to accommodate him.

Those are important considerations, and ones that immigrants should take into account. They are not something the state should be concerned with, because people should have the freedom to make these decisions for themselves. If they won't or can't learn English, they should be willing to accept the consequences of that and not expect to be accommodated. But to prevent their entry into the country is unjustified.

Are you suggesting we should have just left Grandpa behind, or not moved at all because one of us didn't know enough English? I didn't know English when I immigrated either, because I was very young. I didn't become adequately proficient in English until around second grade. And doesn't it make sense to learn the language in a country where it is spoken?

Also, the citizenship test determines who can become a citizen, not who can immigrate. There are plenty of legal residents who are not citizens.

Is this guy serious?

You can't be...?

You can't possibly. I did read it, and you are truly ridiculous.

Everything you said are just so ignorant. It's as if there's no thought behind it whatsoever.

last i heard, USA was built by immigrants.

The pacific railroad was built almost entirely by Chinese immigrants.

If you're American, your hate against inmigrants is fucking beyond retardation (unless you're an indian. In that case, it's completly justified).

Do you know some American history?

Actually you're talking about a FEW tribes if so. Many tribes such Sioux, Iroquois Confederation and many more had their own territories and they protected them fiercely. They didn't attack colonies unless they reached their territories. When they did, they defended themselves as good as they could.

Exactly, that's how the world works. Stop bitching about how inmigrants get your jobs. If you don't like it, study a degree or just work harder for less money. If inmigrants take your jobs it's obviously because you're either too lazy or too demanding for doing that.

Look above to see my response.

Hmm.. yes, only America has problems with illegal inmigration... I'm Spaniard and we used to get about 2 or 3 boats with 300 inmigrants a week before the crisis. Some of them work, some of them don't. The ones who work send money to their familes. The ones who don't just fuck around. So, don't worry, you're not alone. There are other countries with those problems. The difference is that your country was built up by inmigrants so it's highly hypocrite to complain about how inmigration is fucking up your country.

We couldn't turn those boats back because they were so crappy that if we turned them back, they'd sink. We tryed to send them back to their places but it's hard to find out what country are they from. Plus, some of them escape.
Your country was made up by people who came from other country. Your first American-born president was the third. This means that the first Americans were born in another country, ergo they emigrated to America. You descend from European inmigrants. You can call your country as "yours", of course, but that doesn't mean that there are few native Americans. It's true that your country didn't exist untill then but it's also true that it's not like your country was created by the grouping of people who initially were born there or nearby.

Really, now? So the immigrants that came here after 1776 haven't contributed anything?

First of all, then why so much emphasis on white people/English-speakers? Not all Americans are of English or European descent. The majority of us are not of English origin, though we speak English.

Secondly, yes, I'm fairly certain they have made contributions. I'm not saying their contributions justify illegal immigration, but immigration status does not dictate productivity. The labor that they do is a contribution, and not all illegal immigrants are or were manual laborers either.

So yes, that's how the world works.

According to you, the way the world works, is that when one group can outcompete another, they take over the area.

What if the carpenter or the groundskeeper happens to be Mexican?

Most illegal immigrants do pay taxes, though. If they buy anything they pay sales taxes. If they have a job they pay payroll taxes, and often even income taxes (they might use fraudulent Social Security numbers). If they own property they pay property taxes, and if they rent they indirectly pay the taxes that are factored into their rent.
However, they do not receive the same benefits that legal taxpayers receive, such as Social Security.

Oh, boy, here we go.

First of all, I'm not a liberal. I was simply informing you that you're wrong, and that illegal immigrants do usually pay taxes.

No, they shouldn't be in the country illegally, nor should they be receiving benefits or voting or using fake SS numbers, etc. But that doesn't mean you have to pretend they're worthless or lazy or evil, or that they contribute nothing or that they're foreign invaders or that they're trying to undermine America or some similar bullshit.

"Keep America American" is a meaningless and vaguely racist slogan that appeals to people who think American is something other than a nationality, the sort of people who believe in "purity" and thing there's such thing as a "true American". What the fuck does that even mean?

Look, I agree with you that people should come to this country legally and stay here legally, if they're going to stay. And the shouldn't forge their documents. No shit.
But the illegality of their presence here does not necessarily make them less productive. It also doesn't make them evil. They didn't come here because they are malicious, they came here looking for jobs and opportunities that they couldn't get in their home country, in order to support themselves and their families.

Your bit about gangs is a different matter entirely, as most gangs are not made up of illegal immigrants (although I guess it depends on where you live). The reasons for the racial disparities in crime and poverty is a complex discussion that has little or nothing to do with inherent racial characteristics and more with the cycle of poverty, the aftermath of segregation, the development of racial subcultures, drugs and the drug war, welfare, etc.

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"In the situation you named I expect the kid to see all this around him and say "damn... I want to get the hell out of here ASAP!" and focus more on school so he can get out... if he knows that this cycle of poverty exists it's all the more reason to break it."
First of all, even if he does manage to graduate, the school did not equip him with sufficient skills to be a valuable worker or even to attend a decent college. He might come out without adequate math skills or even full literacy, and it's very difficult for someone like that to find a well-paying job. In many cities, minimum wage doesn't even cover half the rent of a small apartment.
What often happens in the worst ghettos is people simply do not plan for the future, because they do not expect to live long enough for it to matter. For that reason many of them start using drugs as an escape, which obviously makes things worse.
And then all this delinquency and despair and violence and drug use integrates itself into the culture of the neighborhood, and as it becomes increasingly normal it also becomes harder to resist.
And then when you have kids, your kids will likely go through the same things and have the same problems, and in the long run it gets worse and worse.

I go to college in Baltimore, and this exact thing actually happens in West Baltimore and other neighborhoods in the city. The reason for the racial correlation here is largely because the city used to be heavily segregated, and the de jure and de facto disadvantaged black neighborhoods became the ghettos that exist today, post-segregation. And it got even worse as the middle-class black people did just what you said and moved out of the city, taking their skills with them.

There's also something called social identity theory, which is why races tend to form cohesive groups based simply on shared ancestry and appearance.

"There are people here who want to support their families as well but can't because of illegal immigrants"
Really? Do you have evidence that this happens?
By hiring cheap labor, private businesses are able to lower costs and therefore increase profit. With higher profits, they can afford to lower prices and also to expand and therefore create even more jobs while increasing production. Since illegal immigrants are usually low-skilled and have limited English proficiency, they aren't suitable for every position and are usually used for manual-labor type jobs, while low-skilled Americans are pushed toward jobs like cashiers or waiters which require more communication. It's not strictly a "stealing our jobs" scenario.
I'll also point out that the jobs were not yours to begin with. You're not entitled to be hired, and private businesses don't owe you anything.

"Yes it doesn't show causation 100% of the time, but the majority of the time it does. Almost every time practically. So much so in fact that the chance that it doesn't is basically dismissible entirely."
Not only is this logically fallacious, it is also incorrect.
Suppose you read this stat:
"In homes with guns, the homicide of a household member is almost 3 times more likely to occur than in homes without guns."
That implies that having a gun makes you more likely to be murdered. But maybe those gun owners have guns because they live somewhere where they're more likely to be murdered. How can you tell from the statistic alone?

"I will not research those factors at all, i'm going to focus on the undeniable math and statistics and facts"
Then frankly you are an idiot and your research is worthless. You're not trying to observe reality or discover anything, you're trying to validate your own opinion. The fact that black Americans commit a disproportionate number of crimes does not tell you why that is the case, and that is insufficient data to form a conclusion.

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Reached the reply limit here as well.

"Fixing their own country" is much easier said than done, and it's not something that the average family feels itself capable of doing. They don't set out to fix their country or ruin ours, they just want to support their families like the rest of us. Breaking the law shouldn't be the way to do it, but the motive warrants some sympathy.

What's the thesis of your paper? That certain races are inherently more prone to crime?
Correlation doesn't imply causation. Perhaps you should investigate some of those factors I mentioned earlier, instead of dismissing them as excuses.
It's all well and good to preach personal responsibility, but people aren't islands and our will isn't purely free. We are susceptible to outside influences and act accordingly.
If you live in a poor inner-city neighborhood, attend a low-performing and underfunded school, and are constantly surrounded by gangs and drug users - all through no fault of your own - do you think you're likely to go on and become a successful entrepreneur or something?

Being more powerful than others does not give you a right to their stuff.

That's how animals do stuff, but I'd think you'd hold humans to a different standard.
"What the fuck are they going to do about it" is not intelligent reasoning, and that's not how rights work.

That might be how anarchy works, but if you support that then there's no such thing as an illegal immigrant.

War? We're not in a perpetual state of war, and you can't just start wars whenever you want something. Just because something is historically true does not mean it is just or acceptable.

"We" had no right to do it. Just because the outcome was good, doesn't mean the ends justified the means.

I know it's not new or anomalous, but that doesn't mean it's ethical or should be considered acceptable behavior. History and tradition do not determine right and wrong.

Yes, I'm well aware that historically there have been both slaves and slaveholders of all races, and that atrocities like genocide are relatively commonplace among all races. Again, that doesn't make these things okay. That sort of attitude will only ensure that such things continue to happen.
You can love your country and take pride in its accomplishments without rationalizing or ignoring all the horrible shit that your countrymen or predecessors have done. America isn't and has never been perfect, and it's okay to admit that.

I don't know which people you're talking about, but that's certainly not the only atrocity anyone ever talks about. Perhaps in the US, but that makes sense because it's part of this country's history.
Also when you're the world's leading economic and military superpower, you should expect the extra attention. That's China is now being scrutinized as well. People don't talk as much about the human rights violations committed in Uganda or Laos or Guatemala because those countries have relatively little impact on the world as a whole, and also because those countries don't claim to be the greatest in the world.

Out of curiosity, why do you think America is the greatest country ever? How do you measure that? What makes it so radically different from other industrialized Western democracies?

I can't reply to your comment for some reason, but here we go.
Most of your stuff is really generic and unsubstantiated.

1. Yes, we have accomplished a lot. But it's not like we started from scratch. We, like everyone else, built upon the achievements of our predecessors. And we've also done a lot of bad things as well, which could possibly threaten our claim to superiority.
2. Yes, but why does that makes us greater than other nations, which have also invented stuff?
3. This is true.
4. Also true, but I don't know how relevant that is to modern times.
5. True. But you don't seem to be a huge proponent of diversity.
6. What about it? The system of checks and balances? The Constitution? Brilliant inventions, yes, but it's not like they were purely original, home-grown ideas. I will grant you that, though - having the oldest still-in-use Constitution is a big plus on our side.
7. Also, what about it? I don't think our government is all that great.
8. It's not like we're the only country that has a republican system of government, and not all our laws are fair and just. Are our laws MORE fair and just than the laws of all other countries?
9. We're not the only country that does that, and many criminal cases these days are decided by plea bargain anyway.
10. That's just a slogan. Yes, there's more opportunity for success here than in many other countries (after all, most countries are underdeveloped, but our social mobility isn't that great, and people who are poor tend to stay poor despite their talents or effort.

I'm not necessarily saying the US isn't the greatest country in the world, but I don't think your reasoning is sufficient to justify that claim. I would advise against blind patriotism, as it tends to obscure our many real problems.

Are you a fucking moron!? Most tribes claimed their territory (true, ownership and territory are close) but they still we FORCED to move from the place they had been living for centuries... even their sacred grounds were dug up/trampled/moved.... You make me ashamed to be American, you self centered, moronic, self-righteous prick.

LEARN YOUR PLACE!

LOL, yeah, bad english!

It's Luigi
Can't u see the green hat????

Fuck, I guess he lost some weight by then.

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Looks more like Lopez to me

I think it might be similar to what happens near my area. Basically immigrants gather around a certain area (in my case them being Indian) and just wait for people go give them jobs, mostly construction based. So the guy being a model is unnatural to what they are used to. Hope i helped.

Indeed you did, thanks :)

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