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User avatar #30 - captainfuckitall (02/05/2013) [-]
'Oh my god, this is so stupid, why would they do that?' Why the **** are we blaming the muslims here? Ya, muslims suck, but it's the COMPANY OWNERS that give out under pressure. Holy **** , if I was owner of that company, the second someone says "I'm offended by that, take it down!" I would simply reply with "Tough **** , we're selling it anyways". Problem ******* solved. They don't like it? Good, **** 'em, I don't want anybody who's pussy gets hurt by such a pathetic thing eating my delicious frozen treats anyways.
#61 to #30 - mr skeltal (02/05/2013) [-]
In my opinion it's probably better they caved in then tried to make a profit. As much as I wouldn't like to cave I'd think it better I do before some extremist beheads someone who is somehow associated with my product.
User avatar #69 to #61 - captainfuckitall (02/05/2013) [-]
And if they did that it would only rally up more hatred toward their religion. You see, your attitude right there, you would cave because you don't want someone getting killed. KILLED! Over ICECREAM! That is UNACCEPTABLE, honestly, if I were a dictator, the first death that resulted from muslim extremism, I would put a crack-down on every single mosque. People shouldn't HAVE to ban things on fear that they will be KILLED! And yet we let this happen for what? To be tolerant? The same way muslims are so tolerant to the people they kill?

Unacceptable is the ONLY word for it
User avatar #177 to #69 - InglushMayjur (02/05/2013) [-]
Thank God you aren't a dictator then, because that would mean the end of freedom of religion as we know it.

I'm sorry, but you can't just discriminate against an entire group based on the actions of a minority. Look at the Westboro Baptists. Are they total twats? Yes. Are they Christian? Yes. Does that mean all Christians are total twats? Probably not, no. The same applies to Muslims. Yes, there are radical Muslims, and yes, many of them can be total dickheads. But by no means does that apply to all Muslims, yet we're so willing as a society to just lump the normal people in with the radicals, so long as they follow a religion we aren't familiar with.

Admittedly, the headline of the article contributes to this misunderstanding. If it had been, say, a small group of minority Christians or Jews protesting over the ice cream, the headline would have read, "Christian Organization" instead of Christians. We're too willing as a society to assume that all Muslims are all the same, simply because they believe something different, and because we don't demand any sort of responsibility from the media, the media continues to spout this viewpoint, further convincing more people that all Muslims are just radical extremists.
User avatar #186 to #177 - captainfuckitall (02/05/2013) [-]
No, you buffoon. Religious freedom is welcome, hell, I'M religious; but nobody should have to FEAR being killed because they drew a derogatory picture over the internet, or even just the FACE of your saviour in a comic.

I'm not discriminating, in modern days, islam has caused more violence and bloodshed than any other religion (note: I never said IN HISTORY, that award goes to christianity, but right NOW, in the past few years, it's been the most violent and bloody), and simply as said, if someone got killed my a muslim over drawing muhamed in a comic, I would put all muslim extremists in the area under lockdown. I will NOT let "tolerance" interfere with justice or the safety of my society and people (other muslims included). Indeed, but as far as I know, the Westboro Baptists have never murdered anybody (although I would not let them picket funerals, I would deny any protection they ask for. If they choose to be dicks, they do so at their own risks. If they get their asses kicked, not my problem). You seem to misunderstand, sir; my first comment simply stated that if they had a problem with their symbol on ice-cream (which I highly doubt was put their on purpose) then tough **** , they don't have to eat it, they shouldn't ruin it for anybody else; the gentleman above you then replied that someone could be killed over that, and yes someone could, and in the RESULT of a death, I would arrest and detain all radical muslims. It's not me discriminating, it's simply me saying I will not put up with their ******** because THEY believe it's for their god, same way I wouldn't expect someone to put up with MY ******** because I think it's best for MY god, you see?

Indeed you are correct good sir, and it's unjust how we bunch all muslims together (as I have met my fair share of nice and friendly ones), I get the feeling you are muslim, or at least have muslim friends or family, and if that is the case I apologize if I offended you. I just get a tad...passionate
User avatar #256 to #186 - InglushMayjur (02/05/2013) [-]
I'm not Muslim, nor do I have Muslim family. I'm actually a deist. I know several Muslims though, and, while I'm no expert in the Muslim faith or Muslim history, I've studied it more than most of my countrymen.
And I understand and agree with your argument about how if a few people don't like something, they shouldn't bitch about it and ruin it for everyone. Now, bear with me for a while, because I'm about to rant, but mean no offense.

The argument I take issue with is your statement regarding cracking down on every Mosque. As I said previously, that'd be similar to shutting down every church or synagogue based on the actions of a few, random people. You amend this argument by claiming that you would instead crack down only on extremists, but how do you do that? How do you determine what constitutes extremism? It's the same issue we Americans face on a day to day basis, and we choose to take the easy option; all brown people are terrorists.

I have no counterargument to your claims that Islam, as a religion, has caused more deaths in the modern period than most major religions. I do suggest, however, that you don't look at these deaths as purely a matter of religion. So many Americans simply see a terrorist attack, and, if asked, "Why do they hate us?" simply respond, "Because they're Muslim, and they hate freedom." Yes, this is an oversimplification, but many of my countrymen are unwilling to admit that to Muslims, terrorism is 1) An entirely reasonable backlash against American Imperialism (and that's what it is. Our history of ******* up the Middle East is, quite frankly, a shameful one), and 2) the only effective way to strike back against something as massive and powerful as the American military.

Now, in no way do I endorse terrorism. I think it's horrible. But I think that too often, we're just willing to lump all Muslims together, call them all terrorists or extremists, and wash our hands of the matter. And that just makes things worse.
User avatar #56 to #30 - philliyoMLB (02/05/2013) [-]
Aaaaaaand that's why you'll never be able to run a business, I don't giva **** about a stance, I would just want to make money.
User avatar #70 to #56 - captainfuckitall (02/05/2013) [-]
Aaaaaaand that's why you'll never change anything, because you care more about material gain than the principle of the thing
User avatar #71 to #70 - philliyoMLB (02/05/2013) [-]
Aaaand we just learned about American society and economics.
User avatar #72 to #71 - captainfuckitall (02/05/2013) [-]
Let the record stand I'm Canadian, I just hate radical muslims. ANY religious radicals to be exact, even from my own religion. It would be different if we could prove a specific god from X religion existed, but until we do no mercy should be shown to those who kill because of something that may not even exist
User avatar #73 to #72 - philliyoMLB (02/05/2013) [-]
Well, you aren't huge stance on that one buddy, but yeah it's ******** , but it's natural humans.
#42 to #30 - mr skeltal (02/05/2013) [-]
And then you start losing customers, profits go down, and you can no longer buy your spoiled teenage daughter that Ferrari she wanted for Christmas.
User avatar #45 to #42 - captainfuckitall (02/05/2013) [-]
Because radical muslims really make up that much of the population (and if my daughter wants a Ferrari she can get off her fat ass and work for it herself)
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