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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
User avatar #4 - azroth
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In the nice words of Neil Degrasse; The great thing about science is that it is true whether you believe in it or not
User avatar #45 to #4 - itrooztrooperdown
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See, I don't understand why such a smart man as Dr. Tyson would say something like this. Science, unlike religion, is not dogmatic. Its goal is to find the ultimate truth, but science in itself is not a truth. At least not at the moment. An example: nobody has seen atoms, but there is evidence of their existence. Is it true that atmos exit because science says so? No! If somebody proves that atoms do not exist, and the answer to everything was something else, true scientist will agree with that. And even better scientist will work on finding counter-arguments to that new theory. Science is a path, not a truth.
User avatar #7 to #4 - allamericandude
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Hate to disagree with Mr. Tyson, but that quote isn't really that great.

If science was always true, then the Earth would still be flat and everything in the universe would be rotating around it. Those were perfectly valid scientific (not religious) theories at one point.

If scientists were correct about everything, there'd be no need for science. Science is a journey, not a destination. It's not a set of correct answers, it's the process of finding those answers. That's what makes it great.
#14 to #7 - adamks
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So what you are trying to say, is that back the day, scientists prooved that the earth was flat? It was not just an assumption?
User avatar #105 to #14 - allamericandude
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It was the best theory they could make with the evidence they had. They hadn't yet done the experiments and measurements to prove otherwise.

Granted, the flat earth theory was debunked thousands of years ago by ancient Greek sailors, and by the middle ages we had a pretty good estimate of the Earth's size (although the differences in those estimations helped lead to the whole Christopher Columbus debacle.)
User avatar #9 to #7 - saddestofbreads
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Theories. Science has always and will always be true, Theories such as the flat earth one was never proven and so it was always just a theory while the truth is that it is a sphere, which we know by scientific theories backed up by evidence.
User avatar #106 to #9 - allamericandude
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What I'm trying to say is that science is not a set of correct answers. Science is the process of finding those answers. The thing is, we're never going to know if the answers we have are absolutely correct. That's why we need science to either prove our answers correct or find new ones.
#78 to #9 - anon id: 68bc917d
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If there weren't correct observations and proofs, it was never a theory. The saying "just a theory" is ridiculously ignorant. The reason they're called theories and not truths is because nothing is absolute. NOTHING! If something is a theory (not some ******** one with incorrect or no evidence) you can treat it like a fact. The flat earth claim didn't have other proof than their own intuition. Nowadays theories are never based on intuition.


User avatar #10 to #9 - MrMustacho
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science is a process, so science itself isn't right or wrong, the answers it gets us are and when we have limited information science often gives us the wrong answer (though probably a better one than blind speculation)
User avatar #11 to #10 - thatguywhohasbacon
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With enough testing you can get a correct answer though to any problem using science, such as the earth being round(ish), that is scientific fact established using testing and observation(Satellites).
User avatar #8 to #7 - desuforeverlulz
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Depends on the way you're defining science.

"Science" is always true.

Science is always true, but somehow not all the answers are there yet.
User avatar #6 to #4 - manter
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except when we find something that disproves science with other science. Like how we recently found out that atoms can go below absolute zero degrees.
User avatar #18 to #6 - darkjacky
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prove or it didn't happen.. thats science so show your prove! since absolute 0 is the point where atoms don't move relative to each other(close to it).