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I-V-Vi-IV (as C-G-a-F) and VI-IV-I-V (as a-F-C-G)
(and it's actually the same thing, you take first two chords of the first one one put put them at the end and thus you get the second one)
Same progression everywhere...
I once had an idea, I wanted to find when was this progression first used, but never had the chance to investrigate...
(and it's actually the same thing, you take first two chords of the first one one put put them at the end and thus you get the second one)
Same progression everywhere...
I once had an idea, I wanted to find when was this progression first used, but never had the chance to investrigate...
#69 to #41
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lieutenantshitface (01/25/2013) [-]
I think Pachelbel started it with "Canon in D" somewhere around 1680.
Although it's an eight bar chord progression and only the first three are I-V-Vi, the entire composition is the same chord progression.
Similar to how pop music from the last few decades tend to exist out of the same repeated chord progression.
I can't stand I-V-Vi-IV or VI-IV-I-V. I hear it fucking EVERYWHERE and everyone keeps using it.
I swear the majority of the pop songs use this chord progression.
Although it's an eight bar chord progression and only the first three are I-V-Vi, the entire composition is the same chord progression.
Similar to how pop music from the last few decades tend to exist out of the same repeated chord progression.
I can't stand I-V-Vi-IV or VI-IV-I-V. I hear it fucking EVERYWHERE and everyone keeps using it.
I swear the majority of the pop songs use this chord progression.
Well, it is partially correct.
The thing is, that type of composition was popular then, something like passacaglia or similar with an ostinato (in this case cello playing D-A-B-#F-G-D-G-A).
I don't like comparing it to modern pop cause you can listen to the whole song without getting bored, unlike todays stuff
The thing is, that type of composition was popular then, something like passacaglia or similar with an ostinato (in this case cello playing D-A-B-#F-G-D-G-A).
I don't like comparing it to modern pop cause you can listen to the whole song without getting bored, unlike todays stuff
The reason it's used everywhere is because it serves its purpose perfectly, it has a strong cadence and so it feels complete, and often it fits the melody well, so I don't think it's right to hate it, I've used the progression in my music, and it's generally lifted the song and made it sound that much more epic when it's used in the right place.
#97 to #96
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lieutenantshitface (01/25/2013) [-]
Apparently opposed to other people, I'm not interested to hear essentially the exact same thing over and over again.
It doesn't sound that bad but I rather listen to something that hasn't been done a million times before.
It doesn't sound that bad but I rather listen to something that hasn't been done a million times before.
I'm sorry, but I can't appreciate that... It's like a painter that makes the same picture but with different colors over and over again...
Now I understand that you can't really use advanced harmony but than again you don't have to use the same thing... There are a lot of simple progressions and you can modify them to make them truly "yours", to make them special.
Now I understand that you can't really use advanced harmony but than again you don't have to use the same thing... There are a lot of simple progressions and you can modify them to make them truly "yours", to make them special.
Of course, and I often do that, I'm merely saying that refusing to use common chord progressions makes you restricted. Often that modification is needless, sometimes it's not. It's not painting the same picture, it's being willing to use colours you've used before.
We can agree to disagree...
My idea is that musicians, or to be precise composers of modern popular genre songs should explore and go beyond and not stick with "what is good" and "what people like".
I'm not saying that the progression above is bad, I'ts wonderful, but I'ts everywhere...
For instance I adore VI-III in majors or IV-bIV-II7-I also in majors, there are also old modes like dorian and so on... There are possibilities, explore them!
My idea is that musicians, or to be precise composers of modern popular genre songs should explore and go beyond and not stick with "what is good" and "what people like".
I'm not saying that the progression above is bad, I'ts wonderful, but I'ts everywhere...
For instance I adore VI-III in majors or IV-bIV-II7-I also in majors, there are also old modes like dorian and so on... There are possibilities, explore them!
Of course, and explore them I do, however, as mentioned, sometimes things need to be brought back to basics. The only problem with experimenting is often people don't like it, and your ultimate goal as a professional musician is to sell and make money.
Yes well, although the money making process is sad but true, you can experiment for your own and when you like it publish it. The progression we are talking about isn't basic like you've mentioned, it's just a pain in the ass... (and people unfortunatly like it...)