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#129 - guidoforlife
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"Wow, this song is really good! I must buy this track because the artist did such a fine job!"   
   
-Said Literally No One, Ever
"Wow, this song is really good! I must buy this track because the artist did such a fine job!"

-Said Literally No One, Ever
#134 to #129 - anon id: 1bbd5d60
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I do that...
I even have a list over albums I'm going to buy when I have the money
#148 to #129 - Konigsteiger
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That's not true. I respect the band Týr, and I like to support them. So I have bought all of their albums instead of hunting for a download. Hail to the gods and their glorious viking metal!
User avatar #158 to #129 - nalenthi
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If I really love a song and the artist isn't some big name with a lot of money, then I'll pay for a song. I know the life of a musician that doesn't make it big is hard.
User avatar #160 to #129 - subcelestial
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I've recently bought my first album in years. And it's not because the artist just happens to be one of my best friends. She's genuinely talented.
#171 to #129 - kampi
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I did.
I did.
User avatar #159 to #129 - guidoforlife
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omg guys, I'm joking. I support the artists I like too, i just thought it was funny that the comic said those words so deliberately haha damn
#131 to #129 - underlois
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Use this the next time

Still funny anyways
User avatar #138 to #131 - guidoforlife
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thanks
User avatar #139 to #129 - xldarkking
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I only buy music if i respect the artist for the work they put into it. If its some rich asshole then ill do it illegally. But there comes a time when you gotta buy it because they deserve they (little) money they get from it.
#150 to #139 - steininja
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If you buy the track/album directly from the bands homepage (assuming they have one) they will get a higher percentage than from amazon, itunes store og just your local cd-store.
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#1 - riddari
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Well, I think piracy is not immoral if the availability is the main issue about obtaining content. Also, it's fine if a part of the supplied content is not intended for your country.
For example, in Poland GTA 4 was sold for a full retail price on PC, despite Games For Windows Live not being introduced yet (in other words, if you didn't give fake info in registration, which is a violation of EULA, you couldn't save the game or play multiplayer).

TL:DR: **** GFWL.
User avatar #65 to #1 - keiishiyama
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I have a constantly expanding collection of CDs that currently hovers around 50 albums. Piracy is literally the ONLY way to get what CDs I can't in a way I trust.
#20 to #1 - frink
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I have to agree. There are a lot of movies I would like to see, but they aren't "popular" enough to be on Netflix or other streaming sites. With the demise of video rental stores, I loved Hollywood Video, it is near impossible to find old movies. Plus the only movies you can buy in stores are less than 5 years old. Even if I want to pirate an older movie it still is near impossible because no one is seeding it.
User avatar #62 to #20 - nogphille
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you can still find older movies that are worthwhile on streaming sites or downloadsites..
you'll just have to put a little bit more effort into finding them..
#181 to #62 - frink
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Yep I do that as well. I just like downloading, the quality is usually better and I don't have to wait for it to buffer on a crappy video player.
User avatar #19 - infinitereaper
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Honestly morality is overrated and I've never had a problem with piracy. Growing up never being able to have the things you want long enough and you stop caring. That being said, I do buy a few things and give some support. I promise myself when I'm no longer a poor **** I'll get everything properly. All that aside, it's kind of a pain in the ass to get what you want though. I mean why the hell should I jump through 7 hoops when I can just download it lightning fast?

If companies want piracy to lessen they need to both improve availability and stop with outrageous prices heavily driven by either greed or brand. Everything comes with cost but honestly, Iots of games these days aren't worth their budgets in the first place.
User avatar #44 to #19 - daentraya
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Indeed. Since i cant pay over the internet without borrowing my moms card, it really cant be arsed. And since i usually listen to whatever songs from across albums, buying the albums themselves is not my preferred way. If i could just say easily 'here band, have a handful of money. Ill just download the songs i need now. Keep up the good work'
User avatar #128 to #19 - ayenon
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>company makes new game
>sells for overhigh price of $120
>average person can't afford latest games
>smaller profit for company as less people are able to buy
>company blames piracy
#147 to #19 - fractalius
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Also, just a little known fact, that 90% of popular artists make no money from selling their music. They profit from concerts and publicity, their record label profits from the selling on iTunes.

Indirectly, pirating = less major record label countries = less ****** artists.

(I know that logic is flawed. But it's amusing nonetheless)
#86 - grimmwaters
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Boy, do I love shopping
Boy, do I love shopping
#35 - Chitzu
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I remember one time I really wanted to see "Butterfly effect". It was my favorite movie at the time and I had seen it once before. I had the DVD on the other side of my room, but I was too lazy to get it. So I pirated it. That's like extreme laziness right there.
User avatar #66 to #35 - nogphille
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same, i have an immense amount of movies.. when i see a movie i've watched and think: "that was a pretty good one, i'll probably want to watch it again someday", i buy it.

my collection's gotten so big that i can't be arsed to look through it to find the movie i want to watch, so i just pirate them..
#7 - sorenlolz
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#33 to #7 - corruptdog
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#9 to #7 - trimageryan
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I don't know what's going on but I thought you might like this.

Also, you look lovely today, don't change a thing. You are fantastic.
#10 to #9 - sorenlolz
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1. he said territory so I thought of this 2. MFW I see you looking in my window.
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#36 - felixjarl
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Piracy is not a question of morals. It is a question of what that is the easiest and the cheapest.
#74 to #36 - mmajunkie
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With that same logic, it is okay to steal from people and businesses.  If you steal from a local business, or a person, is it not immoral?    
   
******* logic, son
With that same logic, it is okay to steal from people and businesses. If you steal from a local business, or a person, is it not immoral?

******* logic, son
User avatar #102 to #74 - mcatheistnuggets
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It's also a question of whether or not you are really stealing something. Piracy is just making a copy of the original. I also do not believe in the ownership of ideas, plenty of people can have the same idea, without having to get it from someone else, ergo no one owns their own thoughts. So in extension, you cannot own any one idea, or concept.
#105 to #102 - mmajunkie
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The Patent division would disagree with your thoughts on owning a 'concept'. Pirating is stealing because you are acquiring freely what cost money to produce. If the movie is released free of charge (like at a film festival) than there would be no rights to the movie to defend; but since piracy usually involved blockbuster movies-that makes no sense.

e.g. Your logic would deduce that taking currency notes from an individual isn't stealing because that money is just an idea/concept that someone invented; which according to you cannot be owned.

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User avatar #106 to #105 - mmajunkie
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then*
User avatar #109 to #105 - mcatheistnuggets
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No, stealing currency is different, as you are stealing a physical object that represents the concept of value. Key word being physical object, I can't just say I gave you $5, I actually have to give you the note. If you can make an exact copy of something without affecting the value of the original, then morality makes no difference. I will agree that it does cost money to produce it, but after that, it takes no effort, nor money to make copies. My main point, is that if they charged less, they would sell more, but until they charge less, I will not pay for it. That's as far as music goes.

As far as patents on inventions go, they are totally retarded, they limit innovation by restricting the tools that another company can work with without paying royalties. Everyone (Apple and Samsung) get pissed off when you use an idea of theirs without paying for it. It's just ******* ridiculous. That's like if me and Karl Marx had the same idea about the same time, and I put a patent on socialism, Karl Marx would have to pay me to talk about it and write about it. It's the same ******* concept, applied to physical objects.
User avatar #115 to #109 - mmajunkie
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I honestly cannot understand how you are justifying pirating because it is 'free to make a copy'... That is the silliest argument I've ever heard. It's free to strangle someone to death, so is it therefore morally okay? No... What in the almighty **** are you actually talking about, son?
User avatar #118 to #115 - mcatheistnuggets
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Is it hurting anyone that I make a ******* copy of a song? No, it doesn't, these guys are already rich, do I buy music, yes I do, but only from artists I really like, and want to support. I am not going to pay to support Lil Wayne's Drug habits by buying his music, he should be thankful I am doing him a favor.
User avatar #120 to #118 - mmajunkie
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So now you say you have the ultimate right and consideration of what justifies theft/piracy? ***** you just went full retard. So killing a homeless man that no one even knows or cares about is okay because it doesn't hurt anyone? Hell you're even SAVING him from his drug and alcohol addiction! GO YOU! >_>
#113 to #109 - lmh
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fraud then?
User avatar #114 to #113 - mcatheistnuggets
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Fraud is passing something off as true when it isn't to either cover your tracks for theft, or to benefit in another way. Forging documents and counterfeiting are forms of fraud. Fraud and theft are not the same, but they usually go hand in hand.
User avatar #117 to #114 - mmajunkie
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>cover your tracks for theft
>not the same
>cover your tracks
>theft
>not the same

lolwut
User avatar #116 to #114 - mmajunkie
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fraud is a form of theft.
User avatar #119 to #116 - mcatheistnuggets
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In criminal law, a fraud is an intentional deception made for personal gain or to damage another individual; the related adjective is fraudulent. The specific legal definition varies by legal jurisdiction. Fraud is a crime, and also a civil law violation. Defrauding people or entities of money or valuables is a common purpose of fraud.

Fraud =/= theft.
User avatar #121 to #119 - mmajunkie
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In common usage, theft is the taking of another person's property without that person's permission or consent with the intent to deprive the rightful owner of it.[1][2] The word is also used as an informal shorthand term for some crimes against property, such as burglary, embezzlement, larceny, looting, robbery, shoplifting and fraud.

Theft isn't always covered under fraud, but fraud is always covered under theft

#122 to #121 - mcatheistnuggets
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*Theft isn't always covered under fraud, and fraud isn't always covered under theft.   
   
I could make a fraudulent claim about you with the shear purpose to discredit you and make myself look better in comparison. I gained no money, and I stole nothing, ergo no theft was committed.
*Theft isn't always covered under fraud, and fraud isn't always covered under theft.

I could make a fraudulent claim about you with the shear purpose to discredit you and make myself look better in comparison. I gained no money, and I stole nothing, ergo no theft was committed.
User avatar #166 to #122 - mmajunkie
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That isn't considered fraud... that is slander. You don't know anything of what you speak. I'd stop pretending to know so much, while knowing so little.
#170 to #166 - mcatheistnuggets
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Can't you accept the fact that there are multiple terms for everything, and some words can have different meanings based on context?    
   
Fraudulent - Adjective   
1. Obtained, done by, or involving deception, esp. criminal deception: "the fraudulent copying of American software".   
2. Unjustifiably claiming or being credited with particular accomplishments or qualities.   
   
Damn *****, #learn2english.
Can't you accept the fact that there are multiple terms for everything, and some words can have different meanings based on context?

Fraudulent - Adjective
1. Obtained, done by, or involving deception, esp. criminal deception: "the fraudulent copying of American software".
2. Unjustifiably claiming or being credited with particular accomplishments or qualities.

Damn *****, #learn2english.
User avatar #174 to #170 - mmajunkie
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side note: You don't even know the lrn2_____ properly... **** man, you don't know ****.
User avatar #173 to #170 - mmajunkie
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This entire time you're arguing what you consider to be a crime... You don't get to make that determination. Lrn2logic. It's time to stop posting now
#100 to #36 - tecnoturc
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laws are based on morals. took a class on it.
User avatar #137 to #36 - thedarkhavok
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How did such a ******* moronic comment get any thumbs at all? The ease is at the detriment of morality.
#123 - devildogchild
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User avatar #15 - ferruccio
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1. Search the song on YouTube
2. Copy the link
3. Go to flvto.com
4. Paste the link
5. Download mp3 converted file
6. ???????
7. Profit
User avatar #16 to #15 - hydraetis
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unless it's a popular song generally if you get it off of youtube it'll be **** quality
User avatar #17 to #16 - ferruccio
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No one should complain about free stuff.
User avatar #18 to #15 - infinitereaper
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Ew.

Terrifying quality. Not worth it at all. Stick with mp3 raid or skull mp3 or something.
User avatar #29 to #18 - ishalltroll
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**** MP3. 912 Bit/s .flac ftw.
User avatar #22 to #18 - fudginghell
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offliberty.com Best website I have used so far.
#24 to #15 - anon id: 5300555a
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Or just simply get freecorder and convert the downloaded file into an mp3 with no quality loss.
User avatar #28 to #15 - jibb
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You need to login to view this link
Awesome MP3 site, change language to english first
User avatar #26 to #15 - joshofsouls
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Disgusting quality.
I use Youtube2Mp3, it's got pretty high quality, and if I'm not satisfied with it I just download the video and convert it myself using Camtasia studio .
User avatar #124 to #26 - pokemonstheshiz
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video2mp3.net has pretty good quality most of the time
#104 to #26 - anon id: 32dfdbd7
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User avatar #76 to #26 - tmgrskat
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Camtasia -.-
User avatar #82 to #76 - joshofsouls
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Am I sensing some hostility towards Camtasia?
User avatar #83 to #82 - tmgrskat
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Maaaybe. :D
User avatar #84 to #83 - joshofsouls
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I love Camtasia Studio, it's quite nice. It records, it edits, and I can convert things to gif and several different Audio formats.
#85 to #84 - tmgrskat
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Well... I don't like it.
User avatar #87 to #85 - joshofsouls
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What don't you like about it?
User avatar #180 to #87 - tmgrskat
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It's amateurish, in my opinion.
#51 to #26 - anon id: bada47a4
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Honestly, you can't get good quality off of Youtube.
User avatar #59 to #51 - joshofsouls
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That't not really true, a lot of songs from official channels are really good quality.
#126 - kez
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For the average band, buying records doesnt support a band. It supports the record company.

There is something like a "mechanical royalty" where the band makes $0.93 per album sold and if you think each album is sold for $10, you can see they make jack **** from record sales.

If a band thats been going for 10 years sells 500,000 copies of their album, that is good going. But the band would make $450,000 from those sales which is 45,000 a year divided by lets say 4 people in the band thats less than $12,000 a year per band member.

Where did the remaining over 4 million $ go? The record label.

If you want to support a band. Visit them on tours, thats why they tour, to earn a living. And buy their merch AT THE TOUR/GIG as that will go directly to them not websites and big companies selling it.

TL;DR - 90% money from selling albums goes to record label, they make no real money from it unless they sell in the millions or 10s of millions which is insane since piracy is the norm. To support a band go to their shows and by their merch.
#133 to #126 - anon id: 8b793281
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so, only the stuff I like paying for anyways?
#140 to #126 - anon id: f01d98cc
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Stupid ****. you know "the record label" is not a single person but thousands of people working there, from accounting to logistics to graphic designers, technicians, IT people, advertisers, distribution, licenses for the audio codecs and so on... by buying music you support every single person that made it possible for you to hear that song. It takes more than just "making music" to finally have a CD distributed.

By pirating you support the same people that make the internet a worse place (malware, spamming, scams...).
I'm working in the entertainment industry too, and it sickens me how criminals make money off my work. and the average population wont say **** against it because most of the people are cheapskates (which is also why I will get red thumbs).
#178 to #140 - kez
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As you said, the company is massive, the record label wants to make as much money as possible.

This means a single band is nothing to them. They know a good chunk will fail, and a good chunk will be successfull and a few will make LOADS of money.

So they employ loads of people so they can record and sell hundred of bands so the record company makes loads more money. But this means the bands get an insanely small amount of money as their share in the record label is tiny as the label sells loads of other bands.

By buying CDs of your favourite musicians you are paying for all the hundreds of **** bands that fail and making the record label make money. The band gets jack ****.
#177 to #140 - kez
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While what you said is true, you arent considering the numbers.

You are assuming each person from the record company gets a fair share. This isnt even nearly true. And the band members themselves, I know producers are a big part of the music sounding how it does, I have friends who are music producers, but the majority of bands, unless they get absolutely massive, are permanantly broke until their record deal ends.

Of the 4 million $ in my example. Most of that will go to the people at the top of the company.

Record labels dont make any sense. Imagine going to a car dealer ship and you are told the names of the cars. You then pick a car by its name and buy it before you know if you like it or not. That is exactly what record companies offer.

You have to buy an album before you know if you like it or not. The reason it became mainstream is because there was no alternative before the internet.

Nowadays you can either take a risk and spend your money on something you have no idea if you like or not. Or pirate it and download for free and see if you like it, which probably more than half the time you won't. If you do like it you go to the bands tours etc and buy their merch.