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#95 - anon
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(01/21/2013) [-]
Pro-gun people that rant about needing them incase the government needs taking down are as deluded as the generals in WW1 that refused to acknowledge that cavalry charges were no longer a viable tactic.

You rednecks with your piddly civvy guns will be like ants under a boot if the government ever becomes tyrannical.
#122 to #95 - IamWhoIam
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(01/21/2013) [-]
Trained National Guards Men, Marines, Army Troopers, Tanks, Helicopters, APC and the like would crush a bunch of civilians armed with Assault Rifles.
#206 to #122 - anon
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(01/21/2013) [-]
You see, what your problem is, is that you don't believe in anything bigger than you.

I Believe in Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. not just for some people but for all people. And that is worth putting my life on the line, or even giving my life for it, regardless of the odds.

So, bending over and allowing a tyrannical government to take away our lives, our liberties and our happiness to pursue, because the odds seem stacked, is out of the question.

Remember one thing. If there is a Will, there is a Way.
#152 to #122 - narutohaukea
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(01/21/2013) [-]
well a lot of guns provide a bit of equality to civilians i mean **** just cause they are in the military doesn't make them bullet proof so if you were to shoot first in the right spot i think you'd be just fine. and plus a lot of the "trained" men and women serving are just kids trying to make money for college and such. sure they're trained but it wouldn't do much for some of them in certain situations.
#128 to #122 - rangerofthesea
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(01/21/2013) [-]
we would be similar to russia in ww2...since we wouldnt have the skills...wewould just have to overwhelm through sheer numbers
#129 to #128 - IamWhoIam
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(01/21/2013) [-]
You think you can overwhelm mini guns and carpet bomb strikes from the modern military? Good luck.
#155 to #129 - narutohaukea
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(01/21/2013) [-]
you think they would want to drop bombs on their own soil?
#157 to #155 - IamWhoIam
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(01/21/2013) [-]
No, and that's exactly why it's never happen.
#160 to #157 - narutohaukea
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(01/21/2013) [-]
well if the government had to be over thrown people with just guns wouldn't worry about shooting what they had but the government would be trying to manage what they were aiming at people.
#134 to #129 - rangerofthesea
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(01/21/2013) [-]
also, a lot of US service members would disown a military that is trying to control the population in the form of being dictatorial...its the very thing they fight to stop from happening...why would they fight to make it happen? its not just a job to 90% of the military...its their form of duty to the people...
#136 to #134 - IamWhoIam
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(01/21/2013) [-]
That I know, I was just stating that a modern military could handle a bunch of upset rednecks with rifles. Trust me, I understand why people join to military.
#130 to #129 - rangerofthesea
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(01/21/2013) [-]
almost every american that i know would rather be dead than lose his/her right to be able to be free
#132 to #130 - IamWhoIam
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(01/21/2013) [-]
Ehh, you'd like to believe that wouldn't you. We're not free.
#135 to #132 - rangerofthesea
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(01/21/2013) [-]
plenty free...i can go out and do anything that i would like, as long as i have the means to do it
#138 to #135 - IamWhoIam
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(01/21/2013) [-]
If you're gay could you get married to the person you love?
#139 to #138 - rangerofthesea
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(01/21/2013) [-]
yeah 9 states have same sex marriage and more states are working towards the same end
#140 to #139 - IamWhoIam
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(01/21/2013) [-]
But the entire country isn't there yet, so no, not necessarily. I understand what you're saying though.
#146 to #140 - rangerofthesea
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(01/21/2013) [-]
it would be a lot of guerrilla warfare, and im sure we would eventually start taking tanks and weaponry from the military...since we wouldnt be as organized we could move fairly easily
#144 to #140 - rangerofthesea
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(01/21/2013) [-]
also, the revolutionary war was a great example where a bunch of rednecks with guns overthrew a "modern" military at the time
#147 to #144 - IamWhoIam
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(01/21/2013) [-]
Maybe if England wasn't bleeding from fighting France and all the way across the Atlantic Ocean. They didn't have weapons that could fire 3,000 RPMs, but yeah I know what you're saying.
#149 to #147 - rangerofthesea
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(01/21/2013) [-]
we would steal their weapons...we wouldnt always be shotguns and pistols
#150 to #149 - IamWhoIam
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(01/21/2013) [-]
Doesn't mean you'd know how to use it or maintain it.
#153 to #150 - rangerofthesea
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(01/21/2013) [-]
most firearms are cut and dry, most people could figure it out fairly quickly, and like i said the more people are able to use assault rifles the easier that is to do...hell if you can take care of a handgun or shotgun, an assault rifle isnt much different.
#156 to #153 - IamWhoIam
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(01/21/2013) [-]
Yeah but you're talking about Stinger Missiles, Abram's Tanks, Helicopters, Jets, aren't you? Thinks that would make the difference.
#161 to #156 - rangerofthesea
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(01/21/2013) [-]
stingers are viable, same with tanks, but aerial would be left to those that were trained...plus we would be more prone to destroy aircraft due to our lack of ability to maintain them properly...just to keep em from the enemy