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User avatar #29 - happygrowman (01/19/2013) [-]
american logic:

>guns dont kill people
>people kill people
>give people a killing tool
User avatar #821 to #29 - skullzero (01/20/2013) [-]
Real Logic:

>No guns
>No people getting shot
User avatar #627 to #29 - monkeyfuckingpro (01/20/2013) [-]
People can kill people just as easily with other **** , and this isn;t our logic, this is 1780's american logic.
#535 to #29 - anonymous (01/20/2013) [-]
Or, a tool for self defense. Seeing as criminals are going to get their hands on the guns whether they are legal or not. Takes a special kind of stupid to think that criminals are going to give their guns up along with all of the law abiding citizens.
User avatar #591 to #535 - happygrowman (01/20/2013) [-]
self defense alone does not justify owning a weapon which sole purpose is for murder.
#528 to #29 - tehbluefish (01/20/2013) [-]
Hey guys how about we make guns illegal, so bad guys don't have guns
Just like how bad guys don't have drugs because we made drugs illegal.
User avatar #587 to #528 - happygrowman (01/20/2013) [-]
thats like saying murder should be legal since people will do it anyway. in that case, why do we need a government and laws?

youre right, humans can live happily with chaotic anarchy. **** everything, do what you want, right?
#436 to #29 - anonymous (01/20/2013) [-]
IT'S LEVIOOOOSWAAAAAA.
#77 to #29 - uphill (01/19/2013) [-]
">give people a killing tool"

Do you really think we just let people walk into gun stores and buy guns without permits and background checks? We allow people to get guns because it's a Constitutional right in the US. I think the issue with some pro gun people with the topic is that once one type of gun is banned, it can be seen as a foothold for getting more guns banned until law abiding citizens are disarmed.
User avatar #83 to #77 - wishingwell ONLINE (01/19/2013) [-]
oh, so the guy who shot 3-4 people this week, who bought it hours before, was screened and checked? - i think not
#86 to #83 - uphill (01/19/2013) [-]
I'm not sure which incident you're stating. If he bought it from a source that didn't have any sort of screening or background check, why would that seller be affected by a ban on guns?
User avatar #89 to #86 - wishingwell ONLINE (01/19/2013) [-]
sorry, kinda drunk, forgot to mention that he was screened and checked, but not thouroughly enough (obviously)
#108 to #89 - uphill (01/20/2013) [-]
Oh, I see. I know our current laws and regulations aren't perfect, and I'm fine with strengthening and modifying background checks and screenings where necessary, but I personally think that once one type of gun is banned, it may be the beginning of a gradual process of other types being banned until guns are taken out of the hands of law abiding citizens.
User avatar #119 to #108 - wishingwell ONLINE (01/20/2013) [-]
yeah i agree that it's a possibility, but there's a slim chance that hunting rifles and pistols will be banned in the process, since the right to arms is protected by the constitution - but again this is just what I think.
User avatar #41 to #29 - ivoryhammer (01/19/2013) [-]
That's not American logic, that's dumbass logic, don't mix all us Americans into that group, we're not all idiots.
#143 to #41 - anonymous (01/20/2013) [-]
Yes. Yes you are. But every rule has its exeption.
User avatar #35 to #29 - mrwayne (01/19/2013) [-]
Because people will always have guns. I'm not going to stand by while someone breaks in my house and I hide in a corner.
I have my .357 locked up, but easy to get to. Why? After living in so many burned down places, where you can walk outside to have a cigarette and see your neighbor get robbed, you'll want to protect yourself too.

TL;DR? Lowlifes kill people for nothing. People protect themselves.
User avatar #148 to #35 - wishingwell ONLINE (01/20/2013) [-]
yeah, but isn't that great childhood stick enough? - you know, the one you found as a child with the perfect grib and balance? the one we hid under our beds, just in case something happened? the one our mom hated infourisly? (- mine did, so she bought a couple of mahogany fighting sticks for me instead.)
In a country, with almost no guns, like Denmark, you wouldn't need a gun for self defence, you'd just need goold old trusted clubby the club, for the job.

I still have my trusty old clubby under my bed, just in case something happens. And clubby the club has endning it's fair share of violence, so far, and I feel a lot more safe within it's proximity, than I do with guns of any kind.
User avatar #43 to #35 - thegorn (01/19/2013) [-]
Right, I'm from Norway, and I agree that it's fine to own a revolver if you keep it in your home. But why would anyone need an assault rifle to protect themselves from burglars? I mean, that's all Obama wants to ban, right?
User avatar #99 to #43 - MatthewsGauss (01/20/2013) [-]
people want assault rifles because they look awesome, why do people buy swords? There isnt going to be a feudal knight barging into your house looking for a duel, people just by them because they look kick anus
User avatar #45 to #43 - darknesincontrol (01/19/2013) [-]
Im from Denmark, and most of us dont own a gun. The worst thing that could happen to us is getting stabbed...
User avatar #69 to #45 - ningyoaijin (01/19/2013) [-]
But if you had a gun, you wouldn't be stabbed, and you'd be damned sure the burglar would put that **** back.
#257 to #69 - herashak (01/20/2013) [-]
but if you had a gun chances are he has a gun.
User avatar #303 to #257 - nogphille (01/20/2013) [-]
chances are he has a gun whether or not you have one.. people committing a crime may already have committed a crime.. like owning an illegal firearm..
#317 to #303 - herashak (01/20/2013) [-]
There are 12 guns per 100 people. I don't think the chances of the person robbing you having a gun is that high, and the chances of you dying is waaaaaay lower.
User avatar #323 to #317 - nogphille (01/20/2013) [-]
statistics? without reference? always nice.. does that include illegal firearms? does that include a list of how many of those 100 are felons and how many of those 12 represent felons?
i actually do think that the person committing burglary might be armed; he'd be stupid not to.. and i think felons aren't stupid, they were merely brought up with low chances to amount to anything differently and can see a quick buck when presented the opportunity.
#110 to #69 - anonymous (01/20/2013) [-]
if i had a gun the burglar would shoot first
+1
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