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Defense Against the Dark Arts
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The reason why this post is stupid is because it misrepresents what science is. Science isn't hiding from something you think is false, it's analyzing it and finding out the truth if possible, then making connections to other knowledge if unable. You portray the man hiding under science, which is the exact OPPOSITE of what he should be doing. He should be facing it head on, with his head open and three other flows going into it.
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envinite (01/18/2013) [-]
OOOOOH SO THERE ARE 2 CHOICE, SCIENCE OR RELIGION AND YOU CAN ONLY CHOOSE ONE!!!!!!!! OMGGODNOTREALSTUPIDFAIRYTALE##ULTIMATE trollE 9000!!!!!
Dude, I'm an atheist and I find this shit annoying. You are making this site worse by posting things like these.
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englman (01/18/2013) [+]
(6 replies)
This is something I typed on here before so I'm going to be lazy this time and just paste it again because it's relevant.
"Science doesn't try to disprove God or Religion. People futilely attempt to do this and use Science as the tool. Then Science ends up getting blamed, when the true culprit is the person. The relationships between War and Religion tend to share a similar problem. "All Wars are started by some Religion! They should all be abolished!". This may appear correct at first glance, but it's deeper than that. Ignorance (intolerance, nonacceptance, and many other words fall under this type of "Ignorance") is what actually causes most, if not all, War. To put it simply, "You don't hold my opinion on _______, so I'm going to kill you."
Back to the main point though. Science and Religion are both tools with distinct 'properties' that can be used differently. Science is more concrete, while Religion is more interpretive. This allows for some flexibility, because you can use them together in many different ways. Without making this a 7 page paper, though, I'll just give one example that I believe clears up what I mean.
Love is essentially just a series of Biochemical interactions between two people, with a dash of Psychology/Sociology.
Does knowing that make love any less 'magical' or 'special' though?
One Scientist might say "Yes, this is how it works and it shows our interactions to be nothing more than complex Chemistry."
The second Scientist might say "No, understanding how it works doesn't make it any less valid. Our concept of love still exists, but now we know how it works."
Now, which one is correct?
Big finish.. It's ultimately just a matter of opinion."
"Science doesn't try to disprove God or Religion. People futilely attempt to do this and use Science as the tool. Then Science ends up getting blamed, when the true culprit is the person. The relationships between War and Religion tend to share a similar problem. "All Wars are started by some Religion! They should all be abolished!". This may appear correct at first glance, but it's deeper than that. Ignorance (intolerance, nonacceptance, and many other words fall under this type of "Ignorance") is what actually causes most, if not all, War. To put it simply, "You don't hold my opinion on _______, so I'm going to kill you."
Back to the main point though. Science and Religion are both tools with distinct 'properties' that can be used differently. Science is more concrete, while Religion is more interpretive. This allows for some flexibility, because you can use them together in many different ways. Without making this a 7 page paper, though, I'll just give one example that I believe clears up what I mean.
Love is essentially just a series of Biochemical interactions between two people, with a dash of Psychology/Sociology.
Does knowing that make love any less 'magical' or 'special' though?
One Scientist might say "Yes, this is how it works and it shows our interactions to be nothing more than complex Chemistry."
The second Scientist might say "No, understanding how it works doesn't make it any less valid. Our concept of love still exists, but now we know how it works."
Now, which one is correct?
Big finish.. It's ultimately just a matter of opinion."
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bloodseel (01/18/2013) [+]
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This has been posted too many times in the past few days. Is it that hard to shut up about someones religion/beliefs? Is it that hard to understand that everyone wants to better themselves but dickheads like you force people to get into meaningless arguments over the internet, and that betters no one
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IamSofaKingdom (01/18/2013) [+]
(3 replies)
Yay, more front page content because it is about atheist.
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longboarding (01/18/2013) [+]
(1 reply)
Religion, isn't a fucking tutorial on science. For instance, the creation story didn't actually happen like that. The bible isn't a science textbook, it's divine-inspired words to describe an actual happening. If you fucking think the earth was made in 7 days, you're a dipshit. If you think the Earth was made by God, and that the 7 days and list of everything is to show and emphasize his power, then congratulations, you understand how religion works!
there seems to be this concept going around that religion and science can't co-exist, and it's just not true. I grew up in a religious household, yet my mother is an environmental engineer, and my father is an advanced physics professor.
Yes you do have to take everything you hear from the bible with a pinch of salt, but the exact same can be said about anything you hear on any news network.
Yes you do have to take everything you hear from the bible with a pinch of salt, but the exact same can be said about anything you hear on any news network.
Do you know how to tell of some ones an atheist? Don't worry they'll tell you. Over and over again. Then shove your retardation down your own throat. Hell I'm even an agnostic but atheists can't fucking control their fucking mouths.