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#151
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mattdoggy (01/12/2013) [-]
Martin Luther King fathered many mistresses and illegitimate children all over the south
Hitler banned smoking because it was bad for health, mass produced and helped invent the Volkswagon so everyone could get a cheep affordable vehicle, fixed the economy of a starving nation, invented the highway system, gave us the Olympic torch event, and was an environmentalist who protected animals from abuse or reckless hunting.
Malcom X was an extreme racist that openly accepted violence and race warfare. He also suffered from mental illness and initially became famous because he tried to interfere with officers subduing and arresting a man who had assaulted an officer.
Osama gave millions of dollars to build school, wells, hospitals, and help farmers. He also had a loan system where any one could ask for money with no interest charged, no time limit to pay it back, and no punishment if you couldn't pay it back.
Bill Gates did a lot of back and forth stealing with apple and made shady business deals, involving him buying operating systems for next to nothing and selling them for millions
Stalin helped industrialize one of the poorest nations in the world and was able to use this industry to turn the tide of the war and save his people. He also gave women equal rights and created an entirely literate society.
Nothings black and white but society likes to whittle people down to a gem
Hitler banned smoking because it was bad for health, mass produced and helped invent the Volkswagon so everyone could get a cheep affordable vehicle, fixed the economy of a starving nation, invented the highway system, gave us the Olympic torch event, and was an environmentalist who protected animals from abuse or reckless hunting.
Malcom X was an extreme racist that openly accepted violence and race warfare. He also suffered from mental illness and initially became famous because he tried to interfere with officers subduing and arresting a man who had assaulted an officer.
Osama gave millions of dollars to build school, wells, hospitals, and help farmers. He also had a loan system where any one could ask for money with no interest charged, no time limit to pay it back, and no punishment if you couldn't pay it back.
Bill Gates did a lot of back and forth stealing with apple and made shady business deals, involving him buying operating systems for next to nothing and selling them for millions
Stalin helped industrialize one of the poorest nations in the world and was able to use this industry to turn the tide of the war and save his people. He also gave women equal rights and created an entirely literate society.
Nothings black and white but society likes to whittle people down to a gem
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xeltar (01/12/2013) [-]
Stalin's industrialization was done at the expense of the environment and only possible because he allowed 5 million of his people to starve as he shifted the economy from food production to capital. He actually repealed many of women equality laws that were established under Lenin (ex. sexual liberty) and the ones he put in place were to allow them to work in factories and increase production, socially women were worse off.
#215 to #167
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miaandvinny (01/12/2013) [-]
Regardless of weather someone knew this or not, Hitler and Stalin still kill millions of innocent people. If you get into an arguement over if Hitler was bad or not, (not sure why you would be debating this, but it's the internet, so whater,) the fact that he helped kill 6 million people beats out him building a car company.
The only idiocy is not finding the truth weird, aside from that, there's plenty more biographical information on Gandhi and others that is far stranger to say the least. I'm not hating, but some of this stuff is interesting to say the least. It's not my fault if you're morons.
Are you saying that you don't do something that might be strange to some other culture. Ghandi affected so many people he might has been a leader of a country. I'll bet thousands of his followers did the same, hell his cousins agreed to lie next to him didn't they? Just think about these things a little more, I might have been too harsh in calling you an idiot, but sometimes strange things are the most accepted
I'm not saying he wasn't a great man, but there are no such things as saints. I'm sure there is plenty of human things we were unaware of. We tend to glorify people that way. To not acknowledge that is a bit naive or wishful. Besides, the version of history we know is distorted is it not? There is an entire hidden history though since I don't really like history that much I haven't really looked that much into the subject.
I do not deny any of what you said just then. but some people like Ghandi, or Buddha become more then people. Like ow Hitler can be so evil as too just kill people, that's inhuman. We see these people like that because that's who they were. Ghandi was unorthodox, Hitler was evil, and how people see Jesus was good. History was written the way it was written, we have to accept that and hope the history we leave behind is better documented. Whether what we know now is wishful or not, we imrpove by making sure people know who we are, and who knows, maybe somethings we better left unsaid.