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#15 - hattaz (01/11/2013) [-]
Jeez i only sided with the imperials because before picked a side i went to each HQ. And i went to Windhelm and was all like "Da 						****					." Like seriously, I hate Dark Elves(Because of Oblivion) But 						****					, they live in filth and if they leave the grey quarter they get nasty remarks and dirty looks. That and I heard a Nord wanted to dig a pit and round the Dark Elves and the Argonians up and throw them in and let them kill each other... The Hell... Argonians are like super kick ass, all these Nords are 						*******					 racist as well, hell i was playing as a Breton and they treated me like crap.   
   
Than I go to Solitude, walked in on a guy getting beheaded for letting Ulfric leave Solitude. At this point i totally agree with it(even though the guy sounded nice.) The people were nice and all i hear is "Why don't those Stormcloaks get that the empire is keeping Skyrim safe from Elven rule." Which after visiting the Embassy made me get why that statement was true....   
   
So i had like 0% motivation to ever help Ulfric because he and his people are all bigots to the other races and only want a SUPREME NORD MASTER RACE to live in Skyrim. Hell when i killed Ulfric and the new Jarl was appointed, he was pretty sweet, only the nords were bitching.   
   
TL;DR: Stormcloaks are Racist assholes
Jeez i only sided with the imperials because before picked a side i went to each HQ. And i went to Windhelm and was all like "Da **** ." Like seriously, I hate Dark Elves(Because of Oblivion) But **** , they live in filth and if they leave the grey quarter they get nasty remarks and dirty looks. That and I heard a Nord wanted to dig a pit and round the Dark Elves and the Argonians up and throw them in and let them kill each other... The Hell... Argonians are like super kick ass, all these Nords are ******* racist as well, hell i was playing as a Breton and they treated me like crap.

Than I go to Solitude, walked in on a guy getting beheaded for letting Ulfric leave Solitude. At this point i totally agree with it(even though the guy sounded nice.) The people were nice and all i hear is "Why don't those Stormcloaks get that the empire is keeping Skyrim safe from Elven rule." Which after visiting the Embassy made me get why that statement was true....

So i had like 0% motivation to ever help Ulfric because he and his people are all bigots to the other races and only want a SUPREME NORD MASTER RACE to live in Skyrim. Hell when i killed Ulfric and the new Jarl was appointed, he was pretty sweet, only the nords were bitching.

TL;DR: Stormcloaks are Racist assholes
User avatar #117 to #15 - angelmatvey (01/12/2013) [-]
I only joined the Stormcloaks because Ulfric has a cool voice
User avatar #105 to #15 - shazmothree (01/12/2013) [-]
They should have made it so that you can go against the Thalmor after resolving the crisis through either side
User avatar #89 to #15 - hidin (01/12/2013) [-]
At least Ulfric gave them a place to stay. Especially since the Red Mt. erupted and ****** even more of Morrowind up. To be honest neither of the groups are racist (except for the obvious few) but the Thalmor are by far the most rascist. "The thought of a mere man ascending to a God-Like status is preposterous" and the whole "We of the Mer are, at birth, more powerful then mere men." When i heard this **** i didnt care about what General Tullias or Emperor Titus Mede II cared. I wanted them out. And when you think about it hard enough, its exactly like Muslims and Christians/Catholics in the Crusades (OMG OBVIOUS) or the war between the scottish vs the british. (nords being scottish in this case and thalmor/empire british. the whole "skyrim is part of the empire" thing pissed me off). Granted Ulfric only cares about his power on the inside hes doing a better job than the empire. **** , Avenicci even once said "Those barrels of gold didnt hurt though"
Way TL,DR? **** Thalmor and Empire.
Also 100yrs b4 this, Argonians invaded Morrowind for no reason and ransacked a few places
User avatar #110 to #89 - hattaz (01/12/2013) [-]
But the Empire is forced to do this... It was either that or the Dominion would start another war, a war the Empire was losing. So everlasting War... Being able to worship an old king publicly... But yes the true evil are those damn Thalmor, i occasionally go to their Embassy and murder everything for funsies
#80 to #15 - benttoyourwill (01/12/2013) [-]
The reason I sided with the Stormcloaks is because right from the start of the game the Imperials KNEW I had done no wrongs that they can think of but they still put my head on the chopping block which shows that they are an undisciplined military and all the Imperials I met only wish to line their pockets and give themselves more influence, they were even cowardly enough to stop a whole religion just because the Thalmor didn't like it. So what if the Thalmor were stronger you don't back down just because your opponents weapon is bigger. The Stormcloaks are a strong, hardy race that stands up in the face of adversity and doesn't back down just because somebody might no like their decisions, they protect their own and help their people when necessary and yes they do believe their race is the best but think about this, America looks down on Mexicans, know why? (Because plenty of them don't help for **** and feed off the government). The Stormcloaks just want to stay independent and if the Imperials would just have backed off and let Skyrim handle its own affairs the whole war could have been avoided.

TL;DR: Imperials think their **** don't stink.
User avatar #111 to #80 - hattaz (01/12/2013) [-]
Only reason they were going to behead you was because of Ulfric, if he wasn't there they most likely would've just thrown you in jail where you could get out eventually. And ya the Thalmor are assholes but hey if the Stormcloaks are so hardy and determined, why did the empire nearly lose the war that caused all of this bull crap. Just think if the empire left, what would stop the dominion from coming in and waging war on the weakened country and taking it for their own?
User avatar #47 to #15 - rokkarokkaali (01/12/2013) [-]
I just don't like that I can't get the horned crown thing. So I don't side with anyone and just stick icicles in them
User avatar #63 to #47 - AngryRedMidget (01/12/2013) [-]
If you pickpocket the crown onto your friend that escaped from Heigan, you can complete the mission without losing the crown. Then just pickpocket it off him when he returns to his home.
User avatar #64 to #63 - rokkarokkaali (01/12/2013) [-]
Thing is, level 100 pickpocketing? That's ******* difficult. Almost all thief perks are hard to level up. And the only time I was able to pass level 70 was smacking Ralof in the back a the start of the game
User avatar #65 to #64 - AngryRedMidget (01/12/2013) [-]
Just save before you do it, I did it with 22 pickpocketing.
User avatar #67 to #65 - rokkarokkaali (01/12/2013) [-]
So instead of giving it to Jarl douchebag, I give it to the guy, and the game still let's me continue the missions?
User avatar #68 to #67 - AngryRedMidget (01/12/2013) [-]
The quest data doesn't require you to posses the crown, only to have picked it up, and since Ralof hands you a quest item at one point, he's one of 4 dudes that can have them in their inventory. Pickpocket it onto him, and even if he sees you, it's irrelevant. Then next time you see him, it should still be in his inventory.
User avatar #138 to #68 - rokkarokkaali (01/12/2013) [-]
Mother of Talos. I have to do this.
#45 to #15 - EdwardNigma (01/11/2013) [-]
I can't choose a side. I hate the Stormcloaks for what you listed and the Empire for their failure to fight back the elves and banning the worship of Talos, ******* need to get it together, the whole empire fails but the ******* Redguards keep their **** together.

My point being, I'll start my own faction.
With blackjack. And hookers.
User avatar #42 to #15 - letmetellyouastory (01/11/2013) [-]
I only sided with the Stormcloaks, because I thought it was wrong for the imperials to come to Skyrim and take over. And to make it worse, they acted like they were doing Skyrim a favor.
#50 to #42 - magila (01/12/2013) [-]
they are,Talos is the one who formed the Empire he is the one who Conquered skyrim he is Tiber Septim,he was an Imperial

Skyrim isn't the land of the nords,the nords are themselves conquerors of that land too,Skyrim was inhibited by the snow elves before the nords came

plus most of skyrim's supplies and investments come from the Empire,if they leave skyrim will be destroyed

and last a united Empire will Crash the thalmor,they almost did it once but when they tried to gather their strenght and do it once and for all mother ******* ulfric stormcloack started his ****

+1
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#66 to #62 - magila (01/12/2013) [-]
if that's true I may not know good english or what I read not being true

I have read he was Imperial,and emperor
User avatar #74 to #66 - hattaz (01/12/2013) [-]
The Septim bloodline eventually became an Imperial family but it's roots are nordic
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#72 to #69 - magila (01/12/2013) [-]
WOW YOU PROPAGANDISTIC SON OF A BITCH

read that? right there on your source,You almost tricked me,I knew this couldnt be real

There are conflicting accounts of Tiber Septim's birthplace, ancestry, and original name
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#75 to #73 - magila (01/12/2013) [-]
no I am sorry if I offended,I mean you cant see me you just saw the comment and it came out to be rude,don't take it seriously
#71 to #69 - magila (01/12/2013) [-]
well then lets just say he was born nord but was an Imperial at heart

but still last time a checked the wiki that information wasn't there,but it was a huge ass long time ago and more things all learned and added
User avatar #53 to #50 - letmetellyouastory (01/12/2013) [-]
Thanks for the information, but I don't feel like getting into an argument about fictional history in a game.
#56 to #53 - magila (01/12/2013) [-]
not arguing,I'm just a huge nerd over the elder scrolls
I was just informing
User avatar #57 to #56 - letmetellyouastory (01/12/2013) [-]
I didn't mean to imply you were arguing, but If i were to state my opinion It might turn into an argument. And I'd rather that not happening.
#58 to #57 - magila (01/12/2013) [-]
yea,I thought it would look as if I was raging,anyway np
User avatar #37 to #15 - condormcninja (01/11/2013) [-]
I think everyone's thought that since the game came out.
User avatar #39 to #37 - hattaz (01/11/2013) [-]
I'm literally only going to do the Stormcloak line just to see how it is
User avatar #36 to #15 - AngryPlatypus (01/11/2013) [-]
I never liked Ulfic. He just kinda gave me the impression that he was an asshole.
User avatar #27 to #15 - thejerseyjenn (01/11/2013) [-]
I immediately sided with the stormcloaks because someone went up to me and was all "don't worship talos" and I was all " **** you bitch I do what I want" So I went to windhelm and talked to Ulfric and his voice was like a thousand angels licking my ears.
But then... poor Balgruuf. He was one of the best characters in the game, and he was so disappointed at me. At that moment I started liking the stormcloaks less and less. I didn't mind the racism because I hate dark elves but Ulfric didn't really care about the nords. He cared only for himself. I now wish I joined the legion.
User avatar #41 to #27 - icametocomment (01/11/2013) [-]
Who voices Ulfric? I'll admit he's got a sexy voice but it's also infuriating, in a way. He sounds like a freaking snob.
User avatar #136 to #135 - icametocomment (01/12/2013) [-]
Dem blue eyes. He even looks like he could be Ulfric if he grew a beard.
User avatar #137 to #136 - thejerseyjenn (01/12/2013) [-]
wow.. actually you have a point..
#30 to #27 - anonymous (01/11/2013) [-]
Originally I sided with the stormcloaks because the empire was basically the thalmor's bitch now, and I ******* despise those arrogant bastards. Then came the moment when i had to attack whiterun... I immediately regretted the side I took. Balgruuf was a bro.
User avatar #134 to #30 - thejerseyjenn (01/12/2013) [-]
exactly how I felt.
User avatar #29 to #27 - hattaz (01/11/2013) [-]
If you can handle Tullius' ignorance you'll be fine. (like he isn't bad, he's just kinda slow on Skyrim traditions and culture and stuff)
#51 to #29 - magila (01/12/2013) [-]
he is a good leader and if you talk to him you can see that the Empire's plan is to go to war with the thalmor and win it
User avatar #25 to #15 - daniboyi (01/11/2013) [-]
same reasons here man.
I ain't no racist! and it broke my heart first time I joined stormcloaks and attacked whiterun and the jarl was all like "I expected better from you Dragonborn..." I felt like such a nasty piece of dirt from those words...
#28 to #25 - hattaz (01/11/2013) [-]
That's the second reason, Jarl Balgruff was my friend, he accepted me with no question. So i stood by his side and stomped out those damn rebels.
That's the second reason, Jarl Balgruff was my friend, he accepted me with no question. So i stood by his side and stomped out those damn rebels.
User avatar #17 to #15 - scottsselfdefense (01/11/2013) [-]
you think WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too hard about this game. lol
User avatar #26 to #17 - daniboyi (01/11/2013) [-]
It's the finer details of the game that makes it awesome. Listen to the story instead of ignoring it.
User avatar #60 to #26 - scottsselfdefense (01/12/2013) [-]
i do think about the story line but i dont go so far into it as to tie it in to real life. lol i just do it cuz it makes me happy. im sure theres some sort of underlying theme that ties into real life, but then again im also sure that i love them game for itself. if i wanted to interpret random **** id read a book
#23 to #17 - hattaz (01/11/2013) [-]
Isn't that the point of ART   
   
That and if you simply just play the game you get the gist of it
Isn't that the point of ART

That and if you simply just play the game you get the gist of it
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