'Merica

A-ha, temperature jokes! Humor just reached a whole new degree.

Carlos, I know that's you.

no no it's not carlos it is me your friendly neighborhood uwue go away there is no carlos here. If you maskill him then it is not me

Did you hear about the guy who got frozen to absolute zero? From what i've heard he's 0K now.

you glorious motherfucker

I get it.

I'm waiting to be the 273rd thumb.

Thank god for chemistry class.

I read an article recently about someone discovering a gas below absolute zero. Crazy quantum happenings here.
www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-01/04/quantum-gas-below-absolute-zero

Bullshit.

Yeah, I'd say that too, but Quantum Physics is a really fucking strange world, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was legit. More likely, though, they probably ballsed up a calibration somewhere.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_temperature

it's not really.. "below absolute zero".. it's more like... well shit. it's hard to explain.

check out the article.

yea, and im Barack Obama smoking a joint with good ole Abe Lincoln

**biorh rolls 137** 273

Science disagrees.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=quantum-gas-goes-below-absolute -zero

Absolute zero = zero energy.
In the article particles move => not zero energy => above absolute zero.

Shit article made by shit journalists.

Ulrich Schneider is a dick.

1. Learn about a Scientific breakthrough
2. Insult the responsible Scientist
3. ???
4. Profit

Hey USAfag here. Very few people I know really agree with our measurement system. Most think it's ridiculously stupid. But it's everywhere. Kinda hard to just pick up a completely new system.

if its stupid and works, then its not stupid

talking about the americans or about their measurement system?

Yes.

If it's stupid and inconvenient and there is a much better and more logical measurement system, then it's stupid

"if it's stupid, then it's stupid."

that's some nice logic you have there.

"inconvenient" for whom? that's pretty subjective, don't you think?

"a much better and more logical measurement system"
that's your opinion. there's nothing illogical about the Fahrenheit scale (the long quote at the end of this explains the logic of the scale). one of the main reasons it's still in use in the US is because each degree represents a smaller change than in the centigrade scale, which is useful.

"According to a letter Fahrenheit wrote to his friend Herman Boerhaave,[10] his scale was built on the work of Ole Rømer, whom he had met earlier. In Rømer's scale, brine freezes at zero, water freezes and melts at 7.5 degrees, body temperature is 22.5, and water boils at 60 degrees. Fahrenheit multiplied each value by four in order to eliminate fractions and increase the granularity of the scale. He then re-calibrated his scale using the melting point of ice and normal human body temperature (which were at 30 and 90 degrees); he adjusted the scale so that the melting point of ice would be 32 degrees and body temperature 96 degrees, so that 64 intervals would separate the two, allowing him to mark degree lines on his instruments by simply bisecting the interval six times (since 64 is 2 to the sixth power).[9][11]"

Well, Fahrenheit is one thing, what about the rest of the system? The imperial system is not very logical and its harder to convert units in the imperial system than it is in the metric system. For example, its incredibly easy to calculate how much volume a 1 decimeter cube would have, not as easy to find out how many fluid ounces a 1 yard cube can have.

Also in terms of distance, the metric system is also a lot more logical, because its easy to convert. If you take for example 1.678 kilometers to meters, its so simply even a child can do it, however taking 1.678 miles into yards is not really that simple, even for grownups (speaking for myself and those i know).

Due to these reasons the imperial system is inconvinient and "stupid" because of the seemingly arbitrary units based on tangible real-life things, since its hard to convert units and understand just how much 2.34 fluid ounces are compared to 2.34 deciliters i would say that the metric system is a lot easier and better way of measuring.

Also concerning the fancy quote from Fahrenheit, just because he based the system upon someone elses scale and multiplied it by four, doesnt mean the system is better. The Fahrenheit to Celsius is the same as Imperial to Metric, because the celsius system has a logical 0 water freezes and 100 water boils instead of 32 water freezes and 212 water boils. The fahrenheit system will make it harder to, for example heat something up 2/3 water boiling temperature because the illogical numbers that are used.

End of lecture.

1.) I never said anything about the imperial system. I'm speaking entirely about the Fahrenheit scale (while yes, it's part of the imperial system, I'm not speaking about the imperial system as a whole).

2.) claiming that simply because it's easier to convert makes the metric system more logical is a silly argument. also, no one really uses such specific measurements like "1.678 miles." the only people who would be making such measurements would be engineers or scientists, and they would already be using the SI system. your average layman would just say "about a mile and a half" and (if you understand the imperial system) you already know the relationship between 1.5 miles and other conversions.

kind of like claiming calculus is bad because it's hard. calculus isn't hard if you actually know what you're doing. likewise, converting measurements using the imperial system isn't hard if you know what you're doing.

3.) "seemingly arbitrary units based on tangible real-life things" so, for example:
the fact that one of the measurements for distance is called a "foot" is confusing? that makes it inconvenient and stupid? I don't understand what you're trying to say here.

4.) I never said Fahrenheit was "better." you are making that up. I said that it wasn't illogical. my statement still stands. there is nothing illogical about the Fahrenheit scale

5.) the Fahrenheit scale isn't based on the boiling and freezing points of water, therefore your argument that the centigrade scale is "better" because it is, is exactly the same as an "apples vs oranges" argument. that's like saying birds are better than gazelles because birds can fly. that's non sequitor.

end of rebuttal.

just accept it. it is way easier to use the metric system. calculations can be done faster in your mind. there is no need to use the imperial system. what is the logic in 3 ft being one yard and idk how many yards in a mile?

using a foot is inconvenient when you try to figure out how many inches there are in 37 feet or how many feet in 234 yards.

what is logical about 32 being water's freezing point? celsius is easy 0 is freezing point of water and 100 is boiling. i don't think the smaller measurable change in the fahrenheit really matters.

the thing is, you don't ever need to know the exact number of inches in 37 feet, or the exact number of feet in 234 yards. you just know what those distances are, because you're familiar with the system.

personally, I do like the system of meters, kilometers, etc, because I'm an astrophysics major, but feet, inches, and miles are more familiar to me. for ME, the imperial system is easier, because I understand it.

"what is logical about 32 being water's freezing point?" like I said before, the Fahrenheit system isn't based on the freezing point and boiling points of water.

also, the small changes are actually incredibly useful in the Fahrenheit scale. it makes weather temperature measurements easier.

0 C is cold, but not too cold. 100 C and you're dead.
0 F is cold, but you'd still alive. 100 F is hot, but you'd still be fine (where I'm from, 100 F is pretty common). Fahrenheit gives you a 100 point scale here, whereas Celsius would only give you about a 56 point range.

but celsius is based on freezing and boiling point of water, kelvin is based on absolute zero. what is farenheit based on?

the scientist Daniel Fahrenheit based the 0-point of his temperature scale on the freezing point of a salt-water mixture, which was the coldest temperature he could produce in his laboratory.

brilliant

the 0-point of the Kelvin scale is based on what? the theoretical lower limit.

Daniel Fahrenheit based his 0-point on the lowest limit he could create.

your sarcasm is unnecessary and incredibly asshole-ish

but its not like that 0 point he could create is pretty standard or something very common that surround us all achieves normally, like water.

maybe not, but the Fahrenheit scale has advantages that the Celsius scale does not, and vice versa.

No, we know.

We realize it sucks.

I live in America and I can honestly tell you tha we hate it as much as you.

I may be biased from knowing the imperial system all my life, but it's easier to judge distance and weight without tools using the imperial system. When I look at someone I couldn't say "oh they seem like they're 1.7 meters tall" I would think they're 5' 8".
Again I'm probably biased, but that seems the only legitimate reason to keep the imperial system.

I'm going to have to agree with rockamekishiko. The only reason you experience that is because you're used to it. If we switched, it would be confusing as hell, but we would get used to it eventually.

Yes, but at least you were polite about it.

it's the same shit dumbass. you can't calculate well in metric because you don't use it often. i can calculate and judge weight and distances in metric units precisely enough.

Road to eldarado.

El Dorado*

A month is bigger than a day. 12 months are bigger than 31 days. No matter how you twist it, months are bigger, even if they are in lesser number.

day<month<year

day/month/year.

why? fuck you that's why

Because there are days within months within years. A day ends before a month does and a month ends before a year does. It makes less logical sense to write months before days. That and it has been an established order for hundreds if not thousands of years and for some odd reason America seems to feel the need to break from nearly every single tradition/rule that the world uses.

That does make a bit of sense.
Well I have an American education meaning it is shitty, but I think we mixed it up because the whole point of America was to make a brand new nation so if they took things from the old country and put them as our national thing it would defeat the purpose.

I suppose that's probably correct. It just seems a bit petty to have this brand new nation and some of the first things you do are to take a note of all the things the way they used to be and then slightly alter them. Admittedly America probably invented several of these things so again I guess it's just prerogative to use them.

I've heard before that the reasoning is because it shortens saying the date. Although originally when the U.S. was formed the convention was day, month year (i.e. End of the 7th Article of the Constitution - "done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independance of the United States of America"), as the stating of dates was shortened, the convention on how to say it changed.

January 7th, 2013
7th of January, 2013

But that could be complete and utter bull crap. I wouldn't trust an answer like that if it counted for anything.

its a time scale, a month is longer than a day and a year is longer than a month

day(shortest)/month(middle)/year(longest)

F stands for Freedom, I presume.

And you get really offended because seriously, you are NOT one-legged.

I understand that you appreciate the metric system, but, I don't get why you would use it with your friends, given that they don't know how it works.
I think your friends' reaction is normal if they're used to Fahrenheit...

because every American knows that one degree Fahrenheit is 5/9s of a degree Celcius, and that they would then have to add 32 afterwards.

Someone in my class from school knifed a dog in the arse so he could fit his dick into it. The dog was put down and he was institutionalized.

That's horrible! First they add insult to injury and then they institutionalize the poor dog?!?! We should never resort to giving animals put downs, and I think after some therapy and hot cocoa the dog would have been much better off.

Did you just made all the midget thing on your own?

If so, you're awesome!

wat

That's typically only used for oven temperatures, though.

thought i'd just add this

Fahrenheit system
General range of naturally occurring temperatures - 0-100 degrees fahrenheit
Seems kind of useful for weather and temperature.
Obviously it isn't useful otherwise.

I have used both. For daily use, there isn't any difference, at all. For science and shit, Celsius is so much better.

Has it ever occurred to you that freezing and boiling water don't have to be milestones on a thermometer?

Yeah, but this is one of the most common uses

This is like the only argument Americans have, and it's not even viable.

Not only that, but it reeks of insecurity..

If your country is actually that amazing, you wouldn't plaster a comment section with insecure imagery..

if your country was'nt so insecure it wouldn't have to canstantly bash on america.

Which part of this is bashing America? It's only you who is thinking that...

Tell me, I would like to know.

Would you look at that. This isn't one of your country's soldiers.

Or the flag pole coud of been in a L shape to support it in that position... (ms paint skill +10 and screw the fifty states and 13 colonies I ran out of room)

not this shit again the flag is on the fucking moon mythbusters did a thing on it everything even the flag waving was a proven fact it happens because science and your puny brain wouldn't understand

The Mythbusters did an episode on whether the moon landing was fake or not. They said that what looked like wind was actually the flag still wobbling or something from them planting it down.

>Inertia

( As a result of inserting the flag into the moon surface. No atmosphere, thus no resistance to hinder its motion except from the flag itself. )

Seems legit

Yeah no. Canada is America's hat, because the world revolves around FREEDOM! 'MURICA FUCK YEAH!

I thought Florida was

that's funny because Canada is part of America

I'm an American and I learned about the metric system in 9th grade.

Actually I think the reasoning behind our weird ass system is that a system based on 12 is more divisible as opposed to the metric system's pretty numbers that are based on 10.

well think about it, 10 is divisible by 1,2,5, and itself.

where 12 is divisible by 1,2,3,4,6, and itself.

They teach us both in my school district, pretty much one right after the other, a week on US and then a week on Metric, I think, they may have changed it. Either way, not sure why it wasn't taught to you.

What kind of school did you go to? I've been forced to use the metric system since the 4th grade and I hate it.

If if I did learn it, the U.S. Measurement System will always come to mind first when thinking about thinking about measurements or temperature and I would always compare measurements in the metric system to those in the U.S. System

"1k? oh a little under a mile"

*Even If if

inb4 moon landing was a hoax

I'm not sure you understand what I'm trying to say with my comment. What I mean is: There will be some monkey, probably anon, to jump at this and claim just what I called out. That is what inb4 means (in before, usually called in before deletion of a thread as if to say "Oi, I was here!"), also you typed it wrong.

There we go.

to be fair, they did use the metric system.

Yea I know, crazy right? How dare those Americans use the metric system.

oh wait.

Dude...bong?