My friend who goes to a christian private school refuses to believe in evolution at all. Just saiyan...

nothing in the bible disproves evolution

The reason I don't believe in evolution is because there is a lot of evidence against it.(youtube links below)
http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=KXU8E4C5SHQ
http://www. youtube. com/watch?v=l1msS71xL00

Earth is 6,000 years old
He opens with "Two timelines, one which the bible is saying and one which evolution is saying"
No. Geography. Also the bible has no more say on the age of the earth than any other book. Cold hard data is what you need.
He then goes on to explain those timelines. His analysis of the literal biblical timeline is fine, then he gets to the big bang theory and is much less so. He say's it was 20 billion years ago then drastically downplays everything from then til now, as well as completely misrepresenting abiogenesis and how life works. Life forms didn't just "appear", it's a complicated and multi stepped process. Life doesn't have an "interest" in reproducing itself, it was reproducing long before it could be called life. We're less than two minutes in and he's already either lying or demonstrating gross ignorance as to the topic he's arguing against.
Again, his biblical argument is fine. When he gets back to talking about geography though, he talks about the idea that older rocks are under younger rocks (Principal of something or other, I forget) as if it were a law. It's not. It's a principal. A guidline. It doesn't always hold true. Scientists are aware of this, it's not a problem for them.
Oh god no. Oh, GOD no. **** this. I'm 6 minutes and 20 seconds in and he's talking about taxonomy. Worms, fish, frogs, cats, chimpanzee, human is how he says it is. This is much closer, but not even halfway, to how it really is. You need to login to view this link

We have more more proof of evolution than we do of gravity. I'm sure all the evidence was manufactured just to fool us for some strange reason.

Just watched a lot of the first video, and it's so full of ******** it's funny.

If you're going to post evidence against evolution, can you please post it in a form other than long videos on youtube? I don't deal with long videos well, my attention span fades in and out. If you've got something textual, I'd be happy to respond to it. As for the videos, I'll do my best, so brb.

Catholics also believe in the holy trinity

They can't be taken seriously

What's wrong?

people who believe in the trinity (most christians) can't be taken seriously.

galileo believed in the holy trinity

Most Christians don't believe in the holy trinity in-fact, it's only the Catholics and their sub-branches

wait, really? well **** o a monkey and call it beavus. i need to brush up on my religions

how? like generally curious. because i thought they contridicted (what the **** how did i forget how to spell this word) each other

Well, I can speak for myself. I'm a Christan who believes in Evolution. It's been proven, and I do not see why some people choose to ignore it when the facts are there.

but arent essential parts of christianity things such as adam and eve and what not?

Well, I don't believe most of the things in the bible. I'm close to being a deist.

But a lot of christens just believe in the teachings. Be good to your neighbors, respect other beliefs. (even though a lot do You need to login to view this link church accepts gays coming in, and hearing the what the church has to offer.

I also personally do not believe that just because you are a different religion or, an atheist you are going to go to hell. If you are a good person you go to heaven. But I hate the thought of telling someone they are going to hell. I am no one to say that.

Well thats nice of you....but whats a deist haha.

The belief that a "god" set everything in place and left the universe to play itself off.
Like evolution, big bang theory.

its not actually not a contradiction. why do u think that

because adam and eve? idk i just thought thats what they believed

hears a more you know. God created the world and what not. He does this through nature (big bang). Since God is eternal he doesn't live inside of time but created time. so when the bible says the world is created in 7 days, it shouldn't be taken in a literal way since time doesn't apply to God. then God creates human (evolution) and also God didn't create only one man and woman to start. it just to represent man and woman in the fall of creation. not everything in the bible should be taken in a literal way.

idk....no offense but that just sounds pretty loose. i had a word in my head to perfectly describe this and i forgot what it was damn it! like...it sounds like someone backpedaling after...something.....come on i almost had a complete thought! like...hmmm. if you know what im trying to say help me out here because i have no idea hahah. ill comment again at some point when i realize what im trying to say

hahaha not offended and can't help u their but explain how u find it loose. also its not like I'm a pro on the subject but i did study catholic doctrine. and faith in God is needed. also it makes sense God does it this way because God created the world so he reveals himself in his creation kinda like signing a artwork. personally i find it hard to believe God didn't take part in creation and even if u look back u need something to start everything in motion.

ok when i say loose i think i understand what i mean now. it kinda seems like people CHOOSE not to take it literally because they dont approve of what its actually saying. but idk who knows how it is actually supposed to be taken. and oh yeah i also have questions about science related to God. like why are the things people are discovering about science and what not so complicated? like he if wanted to....idk like make everything. why not just....make everything. why would there need to be a reason behind everything? idk do you see what i mean? just something i was wondering

yeah i think that sometimes when i look at it too but theres a lot of times you see different interpretations in the bible. like Catholics believe God fully revealed himself after Jesus but man has not fully understand God. i mean i can't say God's plan on how he revealed himself to man. like people spend their whole life studying God so when i study it its not the easiest thing to understand. Though actually doctrine can be almost like philosophies. it can be interesting. i just hate seeing people who haven't read the bible or study doctrine talk about how God can't be real. and like Paschal Wager i think its a losing situation to be a Atheist as my personal opinion

There is only one country in the world where larger groups of people doesn't believe in evolution.

when you say larger groups of people...are you referring to religions being the groups? or...what do you mean. also what country are you referring to

Christians in other countries than the US almost always believe evolution is either guided by God, or just happened after God created life.

but what about adam and eve? do they just disregard it? no offense by that im just curious

I come from a Christian family, live in a Christian community and work in a Catholic University. Most of us consider the story as a metaphor.

for what?

God created man (through evolution); he gave us free will; we should be contented and not be greedy. **** like that. It depends upon your own outlook actually. Christianity is not that strict.

This varies a lot. Most Christians I know believes in God and follows the teachings of Jesus, but doesn't really care about stuff like Adam and Eve, or if God is real or not. Of course they think that God is real, but it can't be proven either way, and shouldn't be put in focus. It's not like the Bible hasn't been edited a billion times, so the only thing that's important in Christianity is Jesus' teachings.

Ok that makes sense. what im kindve confused about is how they decide what is essential to the faith and what they can just disregard

Christianity is essentially the teaching of Christ. You shouldn't just disregard everything else, of course, but this is what's important. Even here there is some **** . For example, in the Bible it says that you go to hell if you don't believe in Jesus. No one I know believes that, and is one of the things that's put in there to get people to convert.

but...its in the bible. i dont see how that could be a metaphor or anything. idk just trying to get people to convert? idk...it just all seems like people are forming their own separate religions off christianity that are kindve like it but picking and choosing things that they feel are right and wrong. this is a very ignorant and narrow opinion fyi haha im not really basing this off much but this is just at face value

That's what I like about Christianity. No one really forces you to believe or do anything you don't want. There is no brainwashing. I'm Christian and I don't even believe in heaven and hell. I just follow Christ's teachings. Love thy neighbor. Follow the ten commandments.

The Bible was edited several times (mostly cause of the Catholic church) long after Jesus was dead.

"Love thy neighbor. Don't care about his skin or orientation. Be accepting of people who are different than you. Also, if you don't believe in me, you go to hell no matter what."
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not always, no. i mean sometimes they contradict each other but since neither can be truly "proven" then its just accepted that way

but...adam and eve. i just thought thats what they believed

right, so since no one can definitely prove either theory, people actively practice doublethink including myself

doublethink? as in from 1984? or was it thought of before that. and thats when a person believes in 2 contradicting things at the same time right?

yep 1984. you got it. anyway yeah thats pretty much it

Okay, christfag here. I'm been a christfag all my life, and whenever anybody asks me about evolution, I disregard the theory (much to our school's antichrist's chagrin). Not because of superiority of the Bible, but because there is limited knowledge about the Earth's origins. Also, it is just a theory, I don't see how ignorant people can accept a (still unproven) theory as fact. And sleep confuses me about evolution...
TL;DR: I don't believe in evolution because it doesn't have overwhelming evidence, it's still an unproven theory and sleep.
>Gif related, it''s FJ's reaction.

can people stop telling me what a theory is and explain to me how knocking myself unconscious for a a minimum of 8 hours per day (no matter how many predators are around) is beneficial to survival?

What anon said. Do you seriously not know the difference between a scientific theory and a theory in the way the general public uses? Theorys are close enough to facts that they are very unlikely to change. If you say it cant be tested/observed in a laboratory it very much can.

i have a ********* you're trolling..
this has been covered in previous comments..

A scientific theory is a body of knowledge based on facts that describes their interaction in the simplest possible way. It is subject to change as the body of known fact changes, but always describes the body of fact as accurately as possible. There may be gaps in a theory, but the body of facts must support any tentative conclusions that are drawn.

A supposition intended to explain something. Not the be all and end all on the subject...

Why would you say it is still "unproven" though? We know for a fact that it is, well, a fact. We can observe it happening in both the laboratory and through geological records.

Yet you believe in a god that cannot be studied like evolution can?

Evolutions is a theory on adaptations to live. We adapt to survive. Animals adapt to survive. Even single celled organisms that cannot think, adapt to survive.

So tell me how you can believe in a god that has no physical proof of existence yet do not believe in a theory that has very strong evidence to support it.

Look, I'm not gonna start a bible fight on the internet. There is no point to it. I've stated my beliefs, that's all I wanted to do.

Well your beliefs are ignorant and biased for no reason.

If you state your beliefs you should be ready to back them up and fight for them. You have that right. Here is a tip. No one will take you seriously if you tuck tail and run away when someone provides a good argument to what you believe.

For me, I will fight for my beliefs, until I am proven to be right/wrong or we come to a common agreement of sorts. I will always have a decent argument to refute someone else that does not agree. Do I always win? No, but I never just state my case and walk away when someone else disagrees.

Well that's interesting. I am taking my Confirmation classes and the first day the teacher made a joke about evolution. She said it's dumb because she can't still breathe underwater. Almost everyone laughed. I died a little.

How

i wish the people at my school would at least read or study a little bit about evolution before dismissing it, but instead they listen to a teacher, who claims a lot of ******** like, "i prayed to a person with Spina bifida, and amazingly before my eyes it bent and healed to normal."

That is not true.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_evolution

I meant most of Christianity doesn't believe in evolution.

....yeah they do....

As a Christian, I think here's evolution is a solid theory, supported by much evidence, and anyone who doesn't believe in it is a dumbass conservative redneck.

Most American Christians doesn't believe in evolution.
America is not the only country in the world with Christian residents, nor is it the one with most, but its population certainly is the most vocal about it.

Actually I am an American Christian and solidly believe in evolution :D

Sorry about that, I was signed out. Same question as below though.

Ah ok

Oh here's the way it works, I believe in God, but I believe he made the main roots of all animals. I don't exactly believe in the whole "Adam and Eve" part of the bible, for the bible has been changed a good amount for how long it has been passed on. So basically my theory is that god created Earth but it wasn't just like "BOOM! ANIMALS OUT OF ****** NO WHERE!" It was much more of a soft change

I guess, but the Bible says that it is completely true, and if one part is false, then the whole thing must be false. What does the creation story mean, if it is not the creation story?

There are many parts of the bible that very well could be false. The amount of times it has been passed down has caused it to change a good few times

It's pretty ridiculous to think that the original story of the creation of the world was messed up. Even if it was slightly messed up, there isn't much room for evolution. Also, if one part of the bible is messed up, then how do we know if the core beliefs aren't also messed up?

Well thats the thing, we don't. Its scary I know but you have no way of telling whats right and wrong. Hell for all we know we could turn into flying fish people when we die and our god could be a half monkey half hippo monster who eats babies, but we don't know for sure. We can never know until we die.

Right. I figure that Christianity has more evidence for it than other religions, because it wasn't created within one time period. The Bible was created over a very long time, and the fact that it's even coherent is impressive. But evolution has a lot of evidence too, so I don't know.

Exactly why I have them coexist.

But they don't coexist. At least not very well. It's all very confusing. Though I suppose believing that Jesus died for me is the only really important thing to believe in, so I don't have to worry too much.

Two major things you need to believe in is God and that Jesus died for your sins. That's all Christianity is. That and avoiding sinning like crazy

Well the God thing is kind of obvious. Yeah, I'm not so great at the avoiding sins bit...

Same...

Porn kinda sucks huh? That's what I have problems with. Other sins are easier to avoid, like being mean to people, or swearing. Well maybe not swearing.

Those are my only problems too. But the only ones you aren't suppose to say is God Damn and Oh my God, or just use God's name in vain in general

The bible also says not to be vulgar, but maybe that's like a proverbs things, where it just suggests it. Proverbs is a pretty good book, lots of advice in it.

Ok, so I have a problem with swearing too

*ok

Chinese Christians and central and south Americans as well.