strangely most murders occur in places with the most gun legislation

The idea that "stringent gun control laws" = "high homicide rates" is pure retarded nonsense. It is obviously false; there is absolutely NO relationship either way between gun ownership rates and gun control and homicide rates. Hawaii has few guns and a low homicide rate; Wyoming has a ridiculous number of guns and also a low homicide rate. Louisana has an average firearm ownership rate, and a homicide rate in excess of many third world countries. Most of Europe has much lower homicide rates than the US, and they have crazy restrictive gun laws. If it was really that bad, then those places would be warzones. It just isn't the case.

you must also look at the people in those places. america glamorizes being scum. theres no other way to look at it. its cool to be a gangster and everyone hates the police for no reason. your looking at all these places solely with the gun law. i wasnt saying the two are directly related ust saying gun control doesnt work. in europe the police are highly respected. at the same time gun ownership for protection isnt as necessary since they live much closer they have police nearby

its almost as if criminals who murder break other laws!! OH MY GOD!

that was in fact my point. in places like california and dc where gun laws are very heavy criminals can prey on law abiding citizens much easier since they have no way to protect themselves. in places like alaska with loose gun laws they dont hapen as often since you dont know who may have a gun

i know bud, i was agreeing with you :) i really hope they don't throw away the 2nd amendment. government blows

Doesnt get rid of the black market though.

most of the guns that have been used in mass shootings were used with registered guns

*stolen
and they weren't registered

I realize that. That isnt my point. My point is sales in illegal guns would just go up. Marijuana is legal, yet its so common and available it has the nickname grass. cause its fucking everywhere. If people want a gun bad enough, theyll find one.

go make a nuke in your garage cant do it? cause i can make a gun in my garage.

Im ok with this, being a cynic.