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soggytomatoe (01/02/2013) [-] 
I'm putting this out there whether you want it or not.
College is a fucking scam. They make you pay the equivalent of a Ferrari at some universities, where you retain 5% of what you actually pay for. College is like saying "Oh, you wan't to be a firefighter? Better learn fucking calculus then". Sure meeting new people and getting drunk off your ass is awesome, but it doesn't make up for the $25,000 that your parents have to fork over to the money-hungry fuckers at the university. In case anyone was wondering: Yes, I am butthurt.
College is a fucking scam. They make you pay the equivalent of a Ferrari at some universities, where you retain 5% of what you actually pay for. College is like saying "Oh, you wan't to be a firefighter? Better learn fucking calculus then". Sure meeting new people and getting drunk off your ass is awesome, but it doesn't make up for the $25,000 that your parents have to fork over to the money-hungry fuckers at the university. In case anyone was wondering: Yes, I am butthurt.
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saxophan (01/02/2013) [-] It is extremely expensive at face value. However, if you apply to a lot of colleges and also apply extensively for financial aid, you might be able to find a college that's more affordable after all is said and done. My mom makes about $40k a year, and my dad is dead, and I'm currently paying about $4,000/yr for a $50k+/yr school. Comparable prices were proposed to me at at least three other schools I applied for. I'm not by any means 100% certain that this is the case, but I think if you try hard enough, you should be able to find a school that does a fair job of accommodating your financial situation.
Also, in the spirit of thinking outside the box, I'd like to mention that college is more than the empirical four years of education that naysayers like to suggest it is. If you're doing it right, college should be some of the best years of your life. You steadily gain a sense of independence, make new friends, go new places, maybe have your first serious relationship, and ultimately learn a lot more about yourself. You can't really put a price on that.
Also, in the spirit of thinking outside the box, I'd like to mention that college is more than the empirical four years of education that naysayers like to suggest it is. If you're doing it right, college should be some of the best years of your life. You steadily gain a sense of independence, make new friends, go new places, maybe have your first serious relationship, and ultimately learn a lot more about yourself. You can't really put a price on that.
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N. Korean citizen (01/02/2013) [-]
It's very true. It's incredibly expensive. Pre-pharm was a good $12,000 and I'm looking at probably another $60,000 to get through actual pharmacy school. If I wanted to, at starting salary, I can have that debt paid off in 2 years (one if those silly things like food and shelter weren't required). Might take longer than that since there's no interest and I don't need to.... but that's beside the point.
Basically, 6 years of school will cost me 2 years of work. Not a bad trade considering the income afterward will be very nice. Not crazy rich of course, but relatively high and STABLE. Can you think of many towns that don't have a pharmacy? On the other end of the spectrum, my brother dropped out of college. He's currently working as a hospital software trainer and making $60,000+ a year. Plenty for comfortable living.
So why does a degree matter? He worked his ass off in that company, climbing the ladder, to make it to that pay. I'll just have to turn in a job application. We both have to put in crap time. Only instead of school, he worked in a shitty call center until he showed that he knew the software better than some of the people coding it.
And if that company ever fails or restructures or something? He's a nobody again. Oh? You were a software trainer? So what? What does that matter? You can say you were the best person at that company, but everybody else does too. Me? I'd just have to find a pharmacy with an opening and flash my little piece of paper called a degree. Yay! I'm employed again!
I like having money and I like having peace of mind. You generally won't get that without some sort of degree.
Basically, 6 years of school will cost me 2 years of work. Not a bad trade considering the income afterward will be very nice. Not crazy rich of course, but relatively high and STABLE. Can you think of many towns that don't have a pharmacy? On the other end of the spectrum, my brother dropped out of college. He's currently working as a hospital software trainer and making $60,000+ a year. Plenty for comfortable living.
So why does a degree matter? He worked his ass off in that company, climbing the ladder, to make it to that pay. I'll just have to turn in a job application. We both have to put in crap time. Only instead of school, he worked in a shitty call center until he showed that he knew the software better than some of the people coding it.
And if that company ever fails or restructures or something? He's a nobody again. Oh? You were a software trainer? So what? What does that matter? You can say you were the best person at that company, but everybody else does too. Me? I'd just have to find a pharmacy with an opening and flash my little piece of paper called a degree. Yay! I'm employed again!
I like having money and I like having peace of mind. You generally won't get that without some sort of degree.
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soggytomatoe (01/02/2013) [-] MFW you have to pay off student loans that cost more than your entire life.
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pebar (01/02/2013) [-] Let's say $60k for a 4 year degree (including boarding), less $25k from your parents, less scholorships (maybe $5k), means $30k for you to pay from a GOOD college, and that's if you aren't working part time. Student loans are low interest; if you don't live like you don't have any debt after college, you can pay it off in a few years. Quit bitching...
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soggytomatoe (01/02/2013) [-] Yes, because everyone in America can afford the $30k a year for college. I'm currently living in a lower middle class family. My sister was lucky enough to get a full ride scholarship to play softball at Loyola-Chicago University. But guess what? If she didn't get a full ride scholarship, no college for her. My family would be in so much debt that my parents would probably kill themselves. The way your thinking is "Why can't people just go to college?" It's not that simple. So shut the fuck up and quit thinking that everyone can afford college.
I'll let you in on a secret, college is EXPENSIVE. I know that's a big word for somebody like yourself that probably comes from a upper class family.
I'll let you in on a secret, college is EXPENSIVE. I know that's a big word for somebody like yourself that probably comes from a upper class family.
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charolastra (01/02/2013) [-] If you're poor (and I mean actually poor, as in living in a family where you live with your single mother who makes $23,000 a year), then federal aid and scholarships (if you're a good student) can take care of most of the cost.
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pebar (01/02/2013) [-] My parents make a combined total of about 40k a year and I live just a few blocks from "the hood." If you want to go to college, then you're going to have to work. Public schools are state-funded and doing well in that can earn you a lot of scholarships. My sister just finished her doctor of chiropractics degree 2nd in her class by WORKING HARD. Being poor just means you have to work harder; it doesn't make it impossible.
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whycanticaps (01/02/2013) [-] mfw my course will cost me just over 5k for two years and I'm paying it myself
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pebar (01/02/2013) [-] Most real jobs require you to have a degree; it doesn't even matter what you major in. Getting a degree proves that you have the ability to work hard. And statistically, those same jobs pay significantly more than jobs that don't require it. That increased pay will more than cover the cost of college. Also, the very prestigious colleges, they look really good for you when applying for high paying jobs.
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techketzer (01/02/2013) [-] No. Only financed by the government, which in turn is finances itself through your taxes.
You college isn't free, you've even got an additional middleman.
Imagine university professors working for free. No such thing.
You college isn't free, you've even got an additional middleman.
Imagine university professors working for free. No such thing.
