I was spanked when I was a kid, and for that I'm thankful.



Your argument is invalid.

So a slap or a spank is physical abuse?
Might as well rape the children, then...

A child IS a barbaric entity. Go to a kindergarten and tell me : do you see reasoning acceptance and order there?
Scientific psychology is a theory, less than 100 years old and yet it claims to give all the answers, seriously?
What material proof do you have that it is even working? Because YOU are a good person? Well, let me tell you that I am a good person too along with my brothers, sisters, cousins and all of us received a slap on the face when we talked back or refused to obey. It has been like this for decades, centuries and millenias. Even during the "enlighted periods" of humanity.
This is how the society works, this is how the life goes.
Now, well, go and be a reasonable scientist and go talk the inmates and mafia bosses out of their bad bad habits...

Lie as much as you want.
You at least received one slap in the face.
Stop acting like you remember everything since you were born.

Your argument is that "since it worked with you, it will work with everybody"
You call this an argument?
And yes, you are fucking lying.
If it's not your parents, then it's a teacher, an uncle, an aunt or whoever.

Ah, point taken.

What would be best probably was like here in former Yugoslavia, at the age of 18 every man was conscripted into the JNA (Yugoslav People's Army) for a year and the officers knew how to deal with them.
Someone does shit, the officer for example tells him to move a pile of firewood from one place to another. When he's done the officer relises it was better on the first place it was. When he moves it again officer says they need it on the other place again. Later he sees that it will get wet there so it has to be moved again and so on....
Or he'd get to dig out a hole. When he's finished he has the honor of burying it again. Then he'd dig it out again....
You get my point. Those officers knew how to deal with thrash.

Aggressive people have aggressive children, and passive people have passive children?
What a breakthrough!

Basically half of Europe has laws prohibiting hitting children.

Please...
Respect and self behavior don't come by itself. They are concepts way too hard to understand for a 5 years old.
A kid must learn that there are limits.
I don't mean that every little mistake deserves a beating with a wooden plank, but a little spanking from times to times will make the kid understand that he should abide to the rules in the house he lives in and/or the social codes when he's outside or with strangers.

Right...
And when the kid answers "A ggaga gaa", you understand that he got the message.

A slap on the hand makes it understand it should not touch this or that.
Might save it from a burned hand later.
And your example was shit.
Concepts such as "disappoint" "proud" or "duty" are just as vague as why the sky is blue in the head of a 3 years old. Though he would be perfectly able to talk back at you, to break a plate while looking right at you to see how you react or to torture the cat a little bit.
The question is : how many young kids have you had to deal with so far?

So now, you can't cook and you have a scar, you call this a victory?
Having no child proof equipment at home is not an education choice, it's a lack of responsibilities.
Now, what do we have here?
A parent who doesn't have the backbone to use his real account to post his opinions?

Right...
So I say "burns" you say "I buned myself on a stove"
I say "scared of cooking" you say "I'm a chef"
...
If I say that you are scared of the Moon? Would you answer that you are the fucking Buzz Aldrin?
Not caring about FJ but still refreshing the page every 30 secs. in order to keep this conversation?

That's it, Mr. 12 years old troll, I guess we are done here.

kids understand getting yelled at just as much as a spanking

Are you implying that if a father gives a slap to a kid who willingly said "fuck you" to his mum, that means he is an aggressive son of a bitch?

I was slapped a few times or kicked in the butt along with my borthers and sisters, and yet we are not these aggressive thugs you are discribing.

Hitler was taught by his parents through education, empathy, compassion and rewarding too...

Not at all. Yes he was intelligent and etc. but his plan from the beging was the partition of humans based upon what believed were higher and lesser races, meaning:
Germans - the only race that could create culture
Chinese - can carry that culture over
Slavs - unable to understand culture, useful only for manual labor
Semites - useless for anything, a waste of space, air and food, don't deserve to live

Well, yeah, of course the recruits do better that way. But should they? If I'm going to clear a building, I want to know that the guy at my back is a hardcore motherfucker who eats danger and shits freedom, not some pussy who can't get through basic without a digital crutch. The point being, that a soldier should be of a very specific mindset, and you can't find out if a person is capable unless you push them to their limits.

Well, how about "no"?

You have to know pain, you must have endured it and got over it to know how to ignore it.
What are you? 15?
You think that courage and bravery are learnt through reading and playing Skyrim?

Right, and you also are a chef, with one child, you burned yourself and all...
You don't care about FJ but you are holding 2 conversations here...
So long, youg troll.