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#254 - kanade **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #295 to #254 - Schwarzenegger (12/28/2012) [-]
I was spanked when I was a kid, and for that I'm thankful.



Your argument is invalid.
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#298 to #295 - kanade **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #315 to #298 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
So a slap or a spank is physical abuse?
Might as well rape the children, then...
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#320 to #315 - kanade **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #336 to #320 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
A child IS a barbaric entity. Go to a kindergarten and tell me : do you see reasoning acceptance and order there?
Scientific psychology is a theory, less than 100 years old and yet it claims to give all the answers, seriously?
What material proof do you have that it is even working? Because YOU are a good person? Well, let me tell you that I am a good person too along with my brothers, sisters, cousins and all of us received a slap on the face when we talked back or refused to obey. It has been like this for decades, centuries and millenias. Even during the "enlighted periods" of humanity.
This is how the society works, this is how the life goes.
Now, well, go and be a reasonable scientist and go talk the inmates and mafia bosses out of their bad bad habits...
User avatar #310 to #298 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
Lie as much as you want.
You at least received one slap in the face.
Stop acting like you remember everything since you were born.
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#316 to #310 - kanade **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #327 to #316 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
Your argument is that "since it worked with you, it will work with everybody"
You call this an argument?
And yes, you are fucking lying.
If it's not your parents, then it's a teacher, an uncle, an aunt or whoever.
#351 to #327 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
I don't think that was her argument at all. Perhaps your parents slapped the eyes out of your head or fucked up your ability to read. I think her argument was an actual article along with an example of an actual country, on the Earth (the planet we live on).
User avatar #300 to #298 - Schwarzenegger (12/28/2012) [-]
Ah, point taken.
User avatar #279 to #254 - alhemicar (12/28/2012) [-]
What would be best probably was like here in former Yugoslavia, at the age of 18 every man was conscripted into the JNA (Yugoslav People's Army) for a year and the officers knew how to deal with them.
Someone does shit, the officer for example tells him to move a pile of firewood from one place to another. When he's done the officer relises it was better on the first place it was. When he moves it again officer says they need it on the other place again. Later he sees that it will get wet there so it has to be moved again and so on....
Or he'd get to dig out a hole. When he's finished he has the honor of burying it again. Then he'd dig it out again....
You get my point. Those officers knew how to deal with thrash.
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#286 to #279 - kanade **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #271 to #254 - SemiAnon ONLINE (12/28/2012) [-]
Aggressive people have aggressive children, and passive people have passive children?
What a breakthrough!
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#277 to #271 - kanade **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #269 to #254 - alhemicar (12/28/2012) [-]
Basically half of Europe has laws prohibiting hitting children.
User avatar #270 to #254 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
Please...
Respect and self behavior don't come by itself. They are concepts way too hard to understand for a 5 years old.
A kid must learn that there are limits.
I don't mean that every little mistake deserves a beating with a wooden plank, but a little spanking from times to times will make the kid understand that he should abide to the rules in the house he lives in and/or the social codes when he's outside or with strangers.
#280 to #270 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
No fist, open hand, or wooden plank could ever hurt me as much as hearing "I am disappointed in you," my parents have NEVER laid a hand on me.
User avatar #288 to #280 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
Right...
And when the kid answers "A ggaga gaa", you understand that he got the message.
#293 to #288 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
Lol if a kid is speaking in "gaga gaa" it is way to young to be disciplined through lectures AND physical beatings, not only does it not understand why it is being hit it will forget it just as soon as it stops crying... what are you trying to prove?
User avatar #301 to #293 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
A slap on the hand makes it understand it should not touch this or that.
Might save it from a burned hand later.
And your example was shit.
Concepts such as "disappoint" "proud" or "duty" are just as vague as why the sky is blue in the head of a 3 years old. Though he would be perfectly able to talk back at you, to break a plate while looking right at you to see how you react or to torture the cat a little bit.
The question is : how many young kids have you had to deal with so far?
#319 to #301 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
I have one and he knows not to touch the fucking stove, not to yell at his mom, and not to tell us "no" and, just like my parents have never laid a hand on me, I have never laid a hand on him. Anyone who meets my son is utterly shocked at how young he is for being so well disciplined. I have ZERO child proof mechanisms in my house, my solution is education, "you put a key in there and IT WILL fuck you up." Kids are kids, they're not stupid, just kids. As for putting your hand on the stove, I fell on the stove when I was younger and cooking with my mom, guess what? Went to the hospital, got it taken care of, had a scare from the burner on my fore arm (you can literally see the rings from the burner) and I never touched a fucking stove again.
User avatar #331 to #319 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
So now, you can't cook and you have a scar, you call this a victory?
Having no child proof equipment at home is not an education choice, it's a lack of responsibilities.
Now, what do we have here?
A parent who doesn't have the backbone to use his real account to post his opinions?
#334 to #331 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
I'm an awesome chef by the way, the scar is now covered by tattoos, and I would consider all of those a victory over the victory of stomping on your own child.
#332 to #331 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
I have no account on here, actually I do but I don't care enough for FJ to remember the username/password (or enough to do a recovery). Lack of responsibility couldn't be further from the truth, in fact it's called good parenting. I don't just child proof my house and let my kid run through it as I sit there and watch TV (or game).
User avatar #339 to #332 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
Right...
So I say "burns" you say "I buned myself on a stove"
I say "scared of cooking" you say "I'm a chef"
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If I say that you are scared of the Moon? Would you answer that you are the fucking Buzz Aldrin?
Not caring about FJ but still refreshing the page every 30 secs. in order to keep this conversation?

That's it, Mr. 12 years old troll, I guess we are done here.
#356 to #339 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
Just for the record I didn't mean "I am a chef" as in I am actually a professional chef, I meant it as "I can make some fucking panties drop when I cook," but I guess a 13 year old wouldn't know about that...
#343 to #339 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
Don't care enough for FJ, do care enough to continue to tell you that you're wrong, two completely different things
#342 to #339 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
Lol I already told you my age, and my old occupation, I have no reason to lie, I gain nor lose anything from it. Just because you have yet to come up with a valid argument to anything doesn't mean I am a troll. Maybe your parents beat you too much? Congrats you have now become the motivation for me to continue not hitting my child. It obviously makes them retarded. You're guess we're done now? As far as I am concerned we have been done, as I have stated before, you have brought nothing to the table except bullshit.
User avatar #276 to #270 - nucularwar (12/28/2012) [-]
kids understand getting yelled at just as much as a spanking
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#275 to #270 - kanade **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #284 to #275 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
Are you implying that if a father gives a slap to a kid who willingly said "fuck you" to his mum, that means he is an aggressive son of a bitch?

I was slapped a few times or kicked in the butt along with my borthers and sisters, and yet we are not these aggressive thugs you are discribing.
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#296 to #284 - kanade **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #282 to #275 - alhemicar (12/28/2012) [-]
Hitler was taught by his parents through education, empathy, compassion and rewarding too...
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#291 to #282 - kanade **User deleted account** has deleted their comment [-]
User avatar #302 to #291 - alhemicar (12/28/2012) [-]
Not at all. Yes he was intelligent and etc. but his plan from the beging was the partition of humans based upon what believed were higher and lesser races, meaning:
Germans - the only race that could create culture
Chinese - can carry that culture over
Slavs - unable to understand culture, useful only for manual labor
Semites - useless for anything, a waste of space, air and food, don't deserve to live
#267 to #254 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
They have also done similar test in the military. Recruits who have cell phones, video games, and down time, often do better then the recruits at places where they beat the shit out of you (yes, physical beatings are not allowed in the military anymore but it's a very fine fucking line)
#278 to #267 - dedaluminus (12/28/2012) [-]
Well, yeah, of course the recruits do better that way. But should they? If I'm going to clear a building, I want to know that the guy at my back is a hardcore motherfucker who eats danger and shits freedom, not some pussy who can't get through basic without a digital crutch. The point being, that a soldier should be of a very specific mindset, and you can't find out if a person is capable unless you push them to their limits.
#287 to #278 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
Limits can be pushed without physical violence.
User avatar #290 to #287 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
Well, how about "no"?
#306 to #290 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
Are you like 13? These are things that are tried and true. You can beat the fuck out of someone in basic training but it doesn't make them more likely to jump on a grenade for their squad. The "hardcore motherfucker who eats danger and shits freedom," is usually the first "my back hurts, I can't deploy little bitch"
User avatar #325 to #306 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
You have to know pain, you must have endured it and got over it to know how to ignore it.
What are you? 15?
You think that courage and bravery are learnt through reading and playing Skyrim?
#330 to #325 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
25, I'm the same anon that has been responding to your other bullshit. Spent 6 years in the Infantry, enlisted when I was 17, one deployment to Afghanistan, grew up playing vidya games, continue to play, it's a passion I will never give up. Courage doesn't come from beatings. I am not talking out of my asshole, this is stuff that I have actually seen.
User avatar #340 to #330 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
Right, and you also are a chef, with one child, you burned yourself and all...
You don't care about FJ but you are holding 2 conversations here...
So long, youg troll.
#345 to #340 - anonymous (12/28/2012) [-]
Again I have no reason to lie, you've brought nothing to the table. A 25 year old combat vet who was burned on the stove when he was little and now has a kid... If I am going to lie wouldn't I make myself out to be a cowboy astronaut millionaire, why would I lie about that shit lol
User avatar #405 to #345 - syis (12/28/2012) [-]
Why would a troll be a troll?
Well, I'll let you write a thesis on the matter.
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