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#66 - anonymoose ONLINE (12/19/2012) [-]
Not defending them but this is illogical.

WBC hates America because it supports homosexuality and other acts that the Bible condemns. They don't hate everything related to America, just the ones that go against the Bible.
#92 to #66 - xxxsonic fanxxx (12/19/2012) [-]
the bible never condemns homosexuality
User avatar #96 to #92 - anonymoose ONLINE (12/19/2012) [-]
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13)

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." (Leviticus 18:22)

"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet." (Romans1 1:26-27)
#140 to #96 - xxxsonic fanxxx (12/19/2012) [-]
Consider than in the former, the word "abomination" actually means "against tradition"

When you're trying to form a large nation (as the Jews were), it's generally not a great idea to dump what could be useful semen into some guy's ass

The latter is a more accurate assessment of the statement "But the Bible says gayz iz bahd" for it reflects the Gospel belief of the Union of Man and Woman being the holiest union possible (apart from the union with the Holy Spirit (this also relates to the whole anti-Divorce thing with Catholics))


This is a different Anon, by the way
User avatar #85 to #66 - desktoppthabest (12/19/2012) [-]
So god hates the funeral of 1st graders?
User avatar #91 to #85 - anonymoose ONLINE (12/19/2012) [-]
They know if they protest events that people mourn at, that they'll spread their message further, although it will make people hate them they just want the easy cop out of "we spread your message, that means you have to let us into heaven" and not try and convert anyone.
#98 to #91 - xxxsonic fanxxx (12/19/2012) [-]
Trust me, they aren't spreading the word of God.
They are spreading hate.

Simply put the God I believe in is loving and forgiving, not full of hate.
These people at Westboro Baptist are nothing more than hateful bigots who deserve to burn in hell for false prophesy and heresy.
User avatar #266 to #98 - coolcalx ONLINE (12/20/2012) [-]
in their minds, they're spreading God's hate, not their own (I'm actually quoting Shirley Phelps).
User avatar #101 to #98 - anonymoose ONLINE (12/19/2012) [-]
I'm a strong atheist who believes the Bible was written in good faith for the time. Most Leviticus was abolishing things that could cause health problems and the best way to make people follow them was to say it was made through a divine power. I also believe Jesus was a good teacher, although not a God in human form, hence his flaws.

In my eyes, the WBC take a book written that was made to be literal in a ancient time as literal, our morals have evolved, and out health has improved so the health risks in homosexuality and long hair being easier to become dirty are irrelevant, but they hold to it as still divine.
User avatar #104 to #101 - anonymoose ONLINE (12/19/2012) [-]
our health*
#76 to #66 - Kyuss (12/19/2012) [-]
It continues to be illogical though.   
   
   
   
WBC hates America because of what they want the bible to say. It just doesn't make any sense. No where in the bible does it say that God hates homosexuals. However, in the bible it says that you can't shave your beard, yet many of the WBC's doesn't have full grown manly beards and the list goes on. Now that's illogical.
It continues to be illogical though.



WBC hates America because of what they want the bible to say. It just doesn't make any sense. No where in the bible does it say that God hates homosexuals. However, in the bible it says that you can't shave your beard, yet many of the WBC's doesn't have full grown manly beards and the list goes on. Now that's illogical.
User avatar #82 to #76 - anonymoose ONLINE (12/19/2012) [-]
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13)
"They shall not shave their heads or let their locks grow long; they shall surely trim the hair of their heads." (Ezekiel 44:20)
User avatar #97 to #82 - afterwards (12/19/2012) [-]
I'll never understand that.
Leviticus wasn't god, he wasn't a saint, he was just very religious and influential. So I don't see why some Christians follow what he says.
God also said murdering is a sin and Leviticus said to stone people to death. So following him is completely illogical. Jesus never said anything about gays, god never aid anything about gays. Just followers did - who the **** are they?
Just curious, I thought people followed god not just some people who tagged their contradictory beliefs into the bible over time.
#135 to #97 - xxxsonic fanxxx (12/19/2012) [-]
Dude...what? Leviticus means "Of the Levites" or "Related to the Levites". The Levites (Those descended from Levi) were one of the 12 tribes of Israel and were the tribe that dealt mostly with the religious stuff. Also, it's generally accepted that Moses compiled Leviticus (As he did the rest of the Pentateuch)

Were you thinking that Leviticus was the name of a guy O.o..?
User avatar #99 to #97 - anonymoose ONLINE (12/19/2012) [-]
Jesus did uphold the laws of Leviticus: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17)

Also, "murder" in the Bible is unlawfully killing someone. Killing someone through Gods will isn't seen as murder.
User avatar #106 to #99 - afterwards (12/19/2012) [-]
The bibles contradictions hurts my head. "Love thy neighbour" is a one of the ten commandments yet is the most broken. And this is supposed to come directly from god. I'm not religious but I like learning about it, but its just too stupid.

I do remember a Christian telling me once that its possible the followers of Jesus may not have been entirely truthful and sometimes add things to suit their beliefs. Something about one follower claiming Jesus said this then another contradicting that later on.

I dunno, food for thought. Its too confusing.
#390 to #106 - xxxsonic fanxxx (12/20/2012) [-]
Under the assumption of that the bible is cannon>

Jesus was sent to interpret the bible (OT) to us. Anything that is not drawn from the words of Jesus is likely misinterpreted. For the Lord never specified what was literal and what was metephorical. What was sin and what was unclean.


The several books of the OT was also the law of the land. What sort of beliefs could you construde out of our laws? So many grams of cocaine IS A SIN! Thou shall not park in front of a firehydrant or be damned to HELL! Thou must hire the equally qualified blackman over a white man or be damned to HELL!
User avatar #110 to #106 - anonymoose ONLINE (12/19/2012) [-]
I'm also an atheist, with a keen interest in arguing with people and have picked up quite a lot in my arguments.
#89 to #82 - Kyuss (12/19/2012) [-]
As I've understood it, and quote me not it goes like this: The sexual act of man on man cannot be done in the same way as you do with the women(position) But it's really only a fun fact our minister told us, when I had my "Be 14 years old say yes to God and get money" day.   
   
   
   
And the shaving part is a reference to this: Don't round your hair at the temples or mar the edges of your beard. - Leviticus 19:27   
   
   
   
But again, I only know so little of the bible.
As I've understood it, and quote me not it goes like this: The sexual act of man on man cannot be done in the same way as you do with the women(position) But it's really only a fun fact our minister told us, when I had my "Be 14 years old say yes to God and get money" day.



And the shaving part is a reference to this: Don't round your hair at the temples or mar the edges of your beard. - Leviticus 19:27



But again, I only know so little of the bible.
#71 to #66 - gamesdisk (12/19/2012) [-]
they do hold signs saying they hate it, not part of it.
User avatar #72 to #71 - anonymoose ONLINE (12/19/2012) [-]
God hates America because of their views on homosexuality etc. Again, they don't say God hates everything about America.
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