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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#26 - justthisguy
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but over here, where guns are illegal, we never have shootings. occasional gang things where they take out about one guy maybe, but nothing like in the US. That said now that every man and his dog has an assault rifle I think you've kind of shot your self in the foot with it, your stuck, cant completely get rid of them.


heh, shot yourself in the foot.
#47 to #26 - Schofield
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No one has an assault rifle, LOL
No one has an assault rifle, LOL
User avatar #64 to #47 - haaaxderp
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I have 16.
User avatar #320 to #47 - theangrydoodle
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Yeah, people do, they sell them at the ******* Dicks Sporting goods
#479 to #331 - mericafuckyeah
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It says it right in the article that the ban expired in 2004. You can legally buy them now
User avatar #391 to #331 - NegativeFour
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Whoa! Laws can stop people from getting assault weapons!

They should make laws banning heroin and meth too!
#395 to #391 - Schofield
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OH?! You're saying laws won't stop us from having guns?!   
(and I do recognize your post for it's humor)
OH?! You're saying laws won't stop us from having guns?!
(and I do recognize your post for it's humor)
#403 to #331 - yomommabinshoppin
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expired 8 years ago
#256 to #26 - bothemastaofall
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#337 to #26 - drdisrespect
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im not sure what you mean by over here, but in most countries guns are legal and the murder rates are no where close to the us.
User avatar #221 - wolvesbrickwall
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if we give everyone guns, and have everyone shoot themselves, there won't be anyone left to commit a mass murder!

IT'S THE PERFECT PLAN!
#39 - anniethreeone
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I followed that tinyurl.   
For some reason "The Daily Anarchist: Building a voluntary society... without permission" doesn't seem like a reliable source.   
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I followed that tinyurl.
For some reason "The Daily Anarchist: Building a voluntary society... without permission" doesn't seem like a reliable source.
(GIF unrelated)
User avatar #209 - Claegel
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Right, because a kindergartner is gonna pull out his ******* AK-47 and mow down the assailant before he does any damage.
User avatar #213 to #209 - totallynotafurry
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No, dumb ass, the teacher is.
User avatar #285 to #213 - saddestofbreads
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Probably not a good thing for a kindergartner teacher to walk into class brandishing his assault rifle.
User avatar #378 to #285 - totallynotafurry
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That's why you don't give it to them as a personal weapon, you put it somewhere out of sight, but within easy reach, in the classroom.
User avatar #386 to #378 - moser
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And what if a child finds it? Then what?
User avatar #394 to #386 - totallynotafurry
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Make sure it's got the safety on.
A child isn't going to be traumatized by the simple sight of a gun. More likely, they're going to be intrigued by it. And most children in America wouldn't know how to hold, let alone operate, a weapon like that.

There's a lot of "what ifs" in this. How bout the one that matters: What if a gunman barges into the classroom and starts shooting at the children? Oh, that's right, the teacher who has been trained to use his/her weapon pulls it out and returns fire, HOPEFULLY eliminating the threat.
User avatar #420 to #394 - moser
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I'm sure there are a lot more kids that can figure out how to turn a safety off then your scenario assumes. Introducing a gun into a classroom of children bring with it the chance of a student shooting another either on purpose or by accident. Gun's accidentally kill over 500 kids a year just from there being a gun in 1/3 of American homes. You put a gun in 100% of American classrooms, that number is going to unavoidably skyrocket. And the amount of kids that die in school shootings as it stands right now is no where near 500. So really you're not solving anything.
User avatar #446 to #420 - totallynotafurry
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Kids die from accidental shootings like that because the parents weren't responsible enough to put the gun somewhere the kid couldn't get to it.

What would you propose they do instead? Outlaw guns entirely so that nobody has them except the guys who wanna kill people? The only reason that works for Australia, is because people can't drive right across the border of their country, into another country, and buy the guns there.
User avatar #459 to #446 - moser
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I never said I wanted to ban guns. I just don't think it's a good Idea to store one in a classroom full of children. Teacher's are fully capable of being just as irresponsible as a parent.
User avatar #470 to #459 - totallynotafurry
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Then what should we do?

I read an article yesterday about a town, in the US, where it was made mandatory that every resident own a gun (started 25 years ago). The article was celebrating the fact that since instituting that law, there had not been a single murder of a resident, whether they were the criminal or the victim, for 25 years.
Here it is: www.wnd.com/2007/04/41196/
User avatar #497 to #470 - moser
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There is nothing we can do, our culture simply needs to change where citizens don't feel that America is a gilded anarchistic war zone where you are going to get shot going out to get your mail in the morning. People don't feel secure anymore, and when that happens it raises the demand for guns, which in turn become more available to wack-jobs that then use those guns to go duck hunting in the food court of a shopping mall.

I read your article. 5242 people is kinda a low sample size to jump to a conclusion like that. Honestly, the high school I went to has more attending students than that every year.
User avatar #511 to #497 - totallynotafurry
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In a town of 5242 people they had a crime rate of 4332 per 100,000 which is over 400 higher than the national average at that time.
The current population is 28,189 and the crime rate is 2027 per 100,000.
People commit crimes they think they can get away with. Why do they usually get away with it? Because people are defenseless. If you give everyone a way to protect themselves, AND TRAIN THEM, criminals are less likely to be successful.
User avatar #554 to #511 - moser
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And is that more practical then simply trying to reform our gun culture to that of Europe, where essentially the same thing has been accomplished where all citizens are on equal footing because nobody owns a gun? Being equally dangerous to one another is the only path to peace apparently. It's the cold war on a much smaller scale essentially. So if either way works I would still feel safer if nobody had nukes.

Anyway if this argument could be solved with one discussion I would have already happened and we wouldn't be having it right now. I'm sure your opinion isn't going to change and neither is mine, but I understand yours better now.
User avatar #563 to #554 - totallynotafurry
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Europe doesn't have an easily accessible country south of it's borders where you can go and buy practically any gun you want.
I highly doubt that "nobody" owns a gun. I think they just make them harder to get, and limit what kinds. But crazies will still get a gun no matter how much you try to stop them. It's just less likely to happen in Europe because they're content and they don't have much **** to drive them crazy.
America on the other hand is dumb as **** in a lot of its policies, and it drives people here insane.
User avatar #594 to #563 - moser
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Your right it doesn't, it has several smaller ones located on it's east side.

#227 to #213 - youxbarstard
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Though the thought of a kindergartner with an AK seems hilarious.
#233 to #227 - totallynotafurry
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It's a pretty common thing in Africa.
#234 to #233 - youxbarstard
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=D
It's a shame though, Africa is a little too warm imo.
User avatar #303 to #227 - Claegel
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when one kindergartner gets mad at one of his fellow classmates, the resolution is quick and easy. he blows his ******* head off.
#668 to #303 - youxbarstard
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Well that would solve the bully problem.
Bully doesn't like the kid? kills him and no more victim.
Victim doesn't like getting bullied? kills bully and victim is happy.
User avatar #397 - notafag
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I hate the ******* idiots who are like "hurr ban guns they are bad if they are banned, surely criminals will listen and won't be able to get them!"
No, you ******* idiot, a criminal can get a gun easy as can be. If I haven't already turned you off with logic, here are some ideas I'm gonna cram down your throat:

1. We aren't England- This isn't anything to do with the fact that we don't suck, it's that we aren't an island nation who can control every bit of import and export. They have less than half of the US's citizens, and they haven't been armed for a longer time, not to mention that they live on a small island. We are bordered on both sides by 2 large nations who both either have lots of guns or cannot control their current populace full of guns.

2. The 2nd Amendment- No I'm not gonna say the found fathers ever envisioned me owning a rifle accurate out to 1500m that can take out light skinned vehicles, but I can say that it talks about the right for each state to have a well-regulated milita. If you don't have the same weapons, if not better weapons than the nation we are facing, then we aren't considered well-armed. On top of this, if you don't own a gun, you are in the state, but aren't well regulated. Technically, NOT owning a gun makes you a burden on your state if someone were ever to invade.

TL;DR: "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
#52 - adventurefag
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MFW i live in a country with less than 1 murder per year
MFW i live in a country with less than 1 murder per year
#54 to #52 - anon id: c2df7585
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where the hell do you live in?
#55 to #54 - adventurefag
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The land of ice and snow (Iceland)
User avatar #69 to #52 - northleech
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That's like 8% of the population in iceland.
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#261 - harryblazer
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>fully support the right to own firearms
>also fully support the idea that there needs to be strict rules and regulations that go with that
>see this mass shooting on the news and think how every anti-gun iberal is going to milk this as an excuse to ban guns from good citizens
>go online and see how everyone is against that, and says that banning guns wont do diddly ****
>my face when I dont feel like some redneck promoting gun rights anymore
User avatar #302 to #261 - chezburgadominator
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I don't have a side in all of this. I wish I owned a gun so I knew how it felt, but my family visits me often and I don't like the idea of having a four year old around a weapon. Even if it is secured safely.
#655 to #302 - harryblazer
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if its locked away and the ammunition is kept seperat then you have nothing to worry about. if you left it out in the open ful loaded next to a toddler than you have a situation
#126 - NhuckCorris
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User avatar #138 to #126 - goldenpotato
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That elicited a chuckle from me, saving it for later use.
#247 - thisotherdude
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"So this one guy over here raped a few people, we've decided that to prevent this from happening in the future by putting a ban on penises. All penis owners need to report to clinics to have their penises removed."

Sure maybe you've prevent one or two rapes but if someone really wanted to rape someone they could easily buy a strap-on, or then could use dildo's, hairbrushes, certain fruits and vegetables, shampoo bottles.

I live in Canada, and we have some pretty strict gun laws (that recently were made somewhat light with the removal of the long gun registry, thank god) and you know what good it did? None! It did basically nothing but cost billions in tax money to keep and and criminalize law abiding citizens. Owning a gun during the registry days was basically giving up your privacy right, police could stop by whenever the **** they wanted to look around and check how your guns were doing, and fine/arrest you if they weren't "stored properly." It was like something out of ******* Orwell man. And it prevented no death what so ever because if someone seriously wanted to kill someone else, they used their brains and used something else to do it or bought a gun illegally.