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> hey anon, wanna give your opinion?
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#8 - acfurryface
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As a UK resident, I find Americans primitive and stupid in relation to gun laws. The problem is, the mass shootings are carried out by mentally ill people who acquire them legally or from parents who got them legally. Tighter restrictions would certainly cut out mass shootings- just look at Australia.
User avatar #45 to #8 - LordVant
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Shame that in the UK, your laws on protecting yourselves are about as dense and retarded as some of America's politicians. :/
#55 to #8 - riceronijabrony
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You know what I hate...well who I hate.... Piers ******* Morgan. This douch, like many news hosts is talking about gun control right now, which is fine. BUT Piers isn't even American, I'm sorry but you should be from a country before you go and preach about what is wrong with it...

Like what if an American TV host had a show in the UK and preached about what was wrong with your laws, you'd be annoyed right? Thats how I feel about Peirs
#136 to #55 - acfurryface
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In fairness, everyone in Britain hates Piers Morgan as well. We were all very happy when he left.
#56 to #8 - anon id: beef77ed
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The problem is that we're in America, and the lawmakers are more likely to make it more difficult for the law-abiding citizen to get guns, and not the ones who are carrying out the mass-murders.
I do however agree with you, and I also wish we could be a bit more like Australia in that sense, at least.
User avatar #60 to #8 - shazmothree
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After this incident I think Obama is really going to bring down the hammer on this. As long as he can get congress to set aside the politics of it I think he'll be able to lay down some very effective regulations
#89 to #8 - chazzxz
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You just said yourself it's a people issue, fact is as American's most of us like being armed, and like having the ability to protect ourselves whenever we need to. What American's truly need to do is ensure that adults purchasing guns understand how to keep them out of the hands of their children and others that should not have them.
User avatar #15 to #8 - allamericandude
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Guns in America aren't unregulated, you know. If our government was actually useful at enforcing the gun laws that are already in place, a good portion of these sorts of shootings wouldn't happen.

There are a few common-sense gun laws that could be put into place, but a prohibition on guns would not work in America--for the same reason every other prohibition hasn't worked.
User avatar #50 to #8 - lilnuggetbob
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The biggist shooting in the world took place in a area where guns are illegal.
User avatar #61 to #50 - shazmothree
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When, where, and why?
User avatar #66 to #61 - lilnuggetbob
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I believe in Norway, he smuggled some illegal firearm, and killed like 60 people, i dont remember exactly.
User avatar #67 to #66 - shazmothree
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I'll have to look it up. I hate that our media only shows the **** going on in our country
User avatar #68 to #67 - lilnuggetbob
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User avatar #69 to #67 - lilnuggetbob
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And it was on the news, back in 2011.
User avatar #71 to #69 - shazmothree
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I remember it now
#22 to #8 - unncommon
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Us Yankees are better with guns than your tea-sipping asses.
#41 to #22 - draxdiesel
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i'd rather have a tea drinking nation and therefore a relaxed nation than one in which every few months someone decides to wipe out a whole bunch of strangers for no obvious reason
User avatar #40 to #22 - hpnerd
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Yeah, which is why you almost lost a war against a country that was fighting from 3000 miles away, with ********* of funding from the French, where the general populace was supporting your cause...

Sure...
User avatar #42 to #40 - unncommon
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I'm assuming that you're referencing the "War of 1812"?

Also, the Americans have never lost a war. Can you say the same for any of the U.K.?
User avatar #44 to #42 - hpnerd
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No, because everytime that America is about to lose a war it ducks out.

And no, of course you didn't lose Vietnam...
User avatar #47 to #44 - unncommon
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Contrary to popular belief, the "Vietnam War" wasn't a war at all, it was a 'Police-Action'. You (being presumably ignorant for foreign affairs) may not recognize the difference, and I'd be glad to elaborate: In any "War" one party would posses the ability to overthrow another governing party, whilst in a 'Police-Action', there was no official 'declaration of war", meaning that party A doesn't have the ability to overthrow party B's gov't.

Plus, if you believe those protesting *************, then you could say that the Americans lost the "Vietnam War". But, statistically speaking, 47,359 (Hostile Vietnamese Deaths) - 10,797 (American Deaths).
User avatar #49 to #44 - demaciankael
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Also, the United States was basically destroying North Vietnam. The only reason they had to stop was because of civilians and other idiots back home forcing them to pull out.
#43 to #8 - rightouslightning
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>Wants to have a legitimate debate
>"I find Americans primitive and stupid"
>YFW
User avatar #24 to #8 - thepyras
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"I find Americans primitive and stupid"
You didn't have to tell us you were British, we could tell.
#137 to #24 - acfurryface
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Yeah, sorry about that. But all I've seen are people defending the second amendment to the death. I know there's been exceptions, but the exceptions are rare. Looking at Australia, it seems obvious that its far better to change the gun law than to just let this pass. As for claims that protecting yourself will be harder, deal with it- It works just fine in the EU on the whole.
User avatar #12 - theblargypargler
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DEAR CHRIST, STOP IT WITH POLITICAL VIEWS POSTS! YOU'RE STIRRING UP A **********!
User avatar #83 to #12 - whiteyswag
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It's becoming a **** sandwich minus the bread.
#13 to #12 - comradegeneral
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User avatar #6 - ChromedDragon
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a guy used a gun to kill 20 children in america

a guy in china assaulted 20 children with a knife the same week they all survived and are in hospital
#57 - EpicSauceOnPie
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Guns don't kill people.   
People kill people.    
With Guns.
Guns don't kill people.
People kill people.
With Guns.
#64 to #57 - stripeygreenhat
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Washing machines don't wash clothes, people wash clothes. But it certainly takes most of the work out of it, doesn't it?
User avatar #4 - silasdg
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Is the theory that if we don't have guns suddenly people wont want other people dead?
User avatar #9 to #4 - dingojohn
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No, the theory is that it's easier to smuggle a gun into a school and kill 20 children, than a knife.
User avatar #18 to #9 - silasdg
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Actually the same day that those 20 children died a man in china slashed 22 children with a knife.

worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/14/15901085-villager-slashes-22-kids-with-knife-at-elementary-school-gates-in-china?lite

Also the incident in the mall just days before was using a strolen rifle a very large weapon. When people are going to commit mass murder they dont care if you see their weapon they're planning on it.

My issue with this whole thing is that people are treating gun control as the problem here when in reality it's mental health but you don't hear anyone talk about that.

Edit: Reposted to add source.
User avatar #26 to #18 - Warang
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The injuries were gruesome, and reportedly include cut-off fingers and ears, but this story had a different outcome from the massacre 8,000 miles away in Newtown, Conn. Everyone survived.

Sure knives hurt but you know damn well that a slasher has less impact than a shooter
User avatar #27 to #26 - Warang
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User avatar #28 to #26 - silasdg
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Are you retarded? Any damaged that can be done with a gun can be done with a knife had the man intended to kill the children they would be dead. A gun fires a small projectile that pierces into flesh. A knife also pierces created a larger wound. hit an artery or major organ and your dead in minutes with either.

If you think outlawing something will keep people from having it for illegal purposes think again.
User avatar #29 to #28 - silasdg
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Any damage*
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User avatar #11 to #4 - SquishyHaribo
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UK: (oldest on record 1969)-2012 6 mass murder incidents killing 31 people and injuring 80
US: 1969-2012 52 mass murder incidents killing 530 people and injuring 1000+

I know there are a lot more people in the US compared to the UK but this is still ******* ridiculous, if it wasn't so easy to get hold of guns, less people would die.
User avatar #16 to #11 - silasdg
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Most hand gun murders are done with stolen weapons, some of those weapons aren't even legal on the market currently. Banning guns because people choose to kill other people would be like banning planes because terrorists took down the trade center.

A lot of things can be used to harm or kill other people that doesn't change the fact that the weapon isn't the problem the people are. Taking away the weapon doesn't solve the problem that these people are mentally ill.
#80 - sandworm
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So is the person solution, do nothing?
#87 to #80 - Visual
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No, basically we can't do anything.
No, basically we can't do anything.
User avatar #92 to #87 - sandworm
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well what about some gun restrictions?
like i dont think the average person should be able to get an assault rifle..
User avatar #98 to #92 - mylazy
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I am pretty sure it is illegal to have automatic weapons in the US, but don't take my word on it. I don't really follow what the laws actually are, which is somewhat ironic considering how anti-gun-control I am. But yeah, I think it is illegal to have automatic weapons.
#93 to #92 - Visual
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So that'll stop the circulation of assault rifles?

What's the point of assault rifle laws if people will still illegally acquire them?
User avatar #95 to #93 - sandworm
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Well it will put a dent in the amount that is circulating in the country.
And finding black market weapon isnt that simple
its not like "hey lets go to the black market for some guns"
and if restrictions were made illegal one would be much more expensive due to limited amount in circulation
So i would say it can help
User avatar #113 to #95 - hydraetis
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New Zealand had some of the most strict gun laws in the world at one point, along with being a tiny little island in the middle of the ocean.

That still didn't stop criminals from getting their hands on a pistol when they wanted one.
User avatar #88 to #80 - viatio
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Assuming everything argued in this post is true, that if guns weren't available people would kill through different means, then gun laws would just agitate those people and possibly cause more violence.

*shrug*

He is right to at least some degree though. Establish all the bans, laws, controls, and regulations you want. It won't change people.
#70 - nakedclothes
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seriously? we're supposed to read all of that? well if you'll excuse me sir I believe there is a picture of a cat playing tennis I have not yet laughed at
#31 - rems
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its wrong?   
   
   
If drugs were legal there would be more who used them.   
   
if guns were illegal, less would use them.   
   
it's eays, because everybody can have a gun (because its legal) everybody wants a gun to protect them selves from those who have a gun.   
   
making them illegal wont stop people from getting a gun.   
but it will be less.   
you cant stop shootings. but you can make the ratings lower.
its wrong?


If drugs were legal there would be more who used them.

if guns were illegal, less would use them.

it's eays, because everybody can have a gun (because its legal) everybody wants a gun to protect them selves from those who have a gun.

making them illegal wont stop people from getting a gun.
but it will be less.
you cant stop shootings. but you can make the ratings lower.
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User avatar #36 to #31 - lolollo
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Yeah, and you know who the "less" would be using guns? Criminals who would be the ones shooting up schools and theaters, and the people NOT using them would be trained law abiding citizens now unable to retaliate.
#37 to #36 - irishlawyer
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The thing is though, the people who do most of these shootings aren't everyday criminals, just normal people, who had guns, and went insane
User avatar #38 to #37 - lolollo
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Oh, I didn't realize we had a criminologist on funnyjunk. So, since you know why these things happen, why aren't you out stopping them before they happen?
#39 to #38 - irishlawyer
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that is why the united states needs gun control
to prevent flat out insane people from just signing some paperwork, waiting a tad bit, and getting guns
User avatar #63 to #39 - lolollo
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The thing about gun control, however, is that if someone wants a gun, they'll get a gun, and if they want to go insane and kill people, they go insane and kill people. You can't just take the stick away from the kid beating kids with sticks and think he'll just cut the crap. You discipline the kid and make it where kids don't feel the need to go around hitting each other with sticks.
#125 to #63 - irishlawyer
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Just use common sense though
I already know that stopping the legal flow of guns will not stop mass murders
But really, how many people will one be able to kill with a melee weapon compared to a gun?
If you give a guy a gun, and another a chainsaw, and put them each in an area with the same amount of people, and they wanted to kill people, then the guy with the gun would kill more
User avatar #134 to #125 - lolollo
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We're trying to go for no mass murders, not "less". If we just go for less, then we have to answer the question of what amount is acceptable (none). And honestly, sacrificing freedoms for perceived safety is the exact issue people have with homeland security.
#135 to #134 - irishlawyer
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So you think that it is safe for any person to just walk into a store, fill out some paperwork, and then get an assault rifle?
I understand letting people having one or two handguns, but people should really not be allowed to have assault rifles
And a temporary solution is better than none at all, considering there is no such cure for insanity and such
User avatar #138 to #135 - lolollo
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Any person? No, and I'm hoping that's not going to be the lynchpin of your argument. If we want to nib this a little better, then we could potentially use a screening process, and maybe require some training, which aren't that asinine to ask for. Making them illegal, however? That won't do **** but prevent people from being able to protect themselves.
#139 to #138 - irishlawyer
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you believe that gun control is completely banning guns?
It isn't supposed to either extreme, just some sort of middle compromise, which would be a major improvement
I never implied that I wanted no guns whatsoever, just more control
User avatar #140 to #139 - lolollo
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You realize the comment you're defending sad this:
"if guns were illegal, less would use them."
right?

That's what I was arguing against.
#141 to #140 - irishlawyer
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oh
right
User avatar #142 to #141 - lolollo
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I'm thinking this entire situation was just one extremist getting two people who more or less agree with each other to go at each other's throats.
#143 to #142 - irishlawyer
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i guess so
I mean, in the US, people just sign some paperwork
if it took some work to get a gun, less people would have them
User avatar #51 to #31 - rosietheamazon
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i find it ironic that you are making this statement while using a gif that demonstrates a law-abiding citizen who saves a little korean girl being harassed by some gang bangers.
#23 - unncommon
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> TL;DR
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User avatar #53 to #48 - zevran
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Nope, was this guy in Sweden who shot people in Malmö over a periode of several weeks I think.