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#201 - candidvres **User deleted account** (11/25/2012) [-]
In Sweden.. Muslims and Gypsies. I'm thinking about whether I should vote for the anti-immigration party or not. Everyone in the media is out to make them look stupid, just because it's not a ''politically correct party''. Well, here's reality. Immigrants are ruining the country.
In Sweden.. Muslims and Gypsies. I'm thinking about whether I should vote for the anti-immigration party or not. Everyone in the media is out to make them look stupid, just because it's not a ''politically correct party''. Well, here's reality. Immigrants are ruining the country.
#238 to #201 - N. Korean citizen (11/25/2012) [-]
i hate people that think immigrant take jobs
like jobs are some finite resource
If a Moroccan guy moves in and he opens up a restaurant then that could create lots of jobs or if an Asian doctor comes in then he might also create lots of jobs for nurses and assistance.
tl:dr the more people living in a country, the more jobs are needed to accommodate the people living there
User avatar #256 to #238 - candidvres **User deleted account** (11/25/2012) [-]
Did I even mention jobs?

Fuck you.
User avatar #222 to #201 - ludislavonac (11/25/2012) [-]
I think it's more of a problem what kind of immigrants you let in, if most of them are uneducated they will have problems with adapting to your culture and often they will fall into poverty and become the criminal part of society. What you need is a policy that immigrants need to have a certain amount of education before moving in
User avatar #262 to #222 - candidvres **User deleted account** (11/25/2012) [-]
That sounds good to me.
User avatar #209 to #201 - iforgetwhattosay (11/25/2012) [-]
you do have to take these points into account. muslims and gypsies are only a percentage of the immigrants, so right off the bat your statement looks quite race focused and not immigration focused. also the population of full blood swedes alone is too low. sweden is actually dependent on immigration. are you really concerned about the immigration and it's affects on jobs and things, or are you just racist?
User avatar #211 to #209 - candidvres **User deleted account** (11/25/2012) [-]
I'm concerned about them living in their ghettos and not adopting Swedish culture, I'm concerned about their culture spreading on to Swedes and yes.. I was persecuting special ethnicities, not races. The most annoying ones are Muslims and Gypsies though, that's why I mentioned them. Also with the Iranians, Albanians and other people of course, who cry out "Das racist!!" whenever something happens.

50/50 concerned. I just don't like the way the kids begin to call everything "gay lol :PP" and adopt the typical cockiness.
User avatar #215 to #211 - iforgetwhattosay (11/25/2012) [-]
i do understand what you are getting at. you also have to understand that there are immigrants from all over the place in sweden. they don't fight to not be a part of swedish culture, they embrace it because that is what you do in a new country, and they do a hell of a lot for swedens economy. if the swedish democrats win, they will try to enforce immigration laws on all immigrants. even though a lot of them are not the problem. even a lot from people of the areas you speak of are not a problem, it's just the ones that are speak out and are noticed.
User avatar #218 to #215 - candidvres **User deleted account** (11/25/2012) [-]
And honestly, I might be a little bit racist, but that's only because of bad experience. I'm going to work on that, but it'll be hard.
User avatar #217 to #215 - candidvres **User deleted account** (11/25/2012) [-]
Valid point. I just think we need to erase the ghettos and give them proper homes then.
User avatar #208 to #201 - oxan (11/25/2012) [-]
Immigrants? No. Poorly educated individuals that have no other option than to break the law? Yes.
User avatar #212 to #208 - candidvres **User deleted account** (11/25/2012) [-]
I don't blame them themselves. It's their culture and the system is shit. It's the immigration policy that sucks and no one wants to acknowledge it.

Fat as hell Somalis who park on spaces where you can't park, buy 3-4 cakes and later on will inevitably get Diabetes, just further ruining shit.
User avatar #213 to #212 - oxan (11/25/2012) [-]
Man is but a creature of circumstance. But it's important to remember that foreign cultures themselves aren't dangerous. While you don't have to assimilate entirely, foreigners must recognise that the culture of the country they're in is to be respected, but they can expect equal respect. Foreigners must recognise that they must sacrifice parts of their culture to peacefully coexist. First generation immigrants ordinarily do. It's the second and third generation youths that cause trouble.
User avatar #214 to #213 - candidvres **User deleted account** (11/25/2012) [-]
Yeah, and WHY? How in the hell did they adopt their motherlands culture?

Besides.. I DO think that some parts of the typical Albanian, Balcan style culture is really fucking shit up here.. Gypsies don't give a shit though. All they do is hang around in schools(even the parents) and steal stuff. They're not interested one bit in learning anything, just walk around cities. Yeah, I do blame society too.
User avatar #220 to #214 - oxan (11/25/2012) [-]
It's their natural desire to rebel. And ordinarily, if they're from a poor neighbourhood, they feel discriminated against. That's why there's opposition to cutting social services to refugees coming into Australia.

I'm not familiar with the cultures you're describing, because Australia receives more Asian and Muslim immigrants than any other ethnic group, so I won't comment on the specifics.
User avatar #225 to #220 - candidvres **User deleted account** (11/25/2012) [-]
So, they have no impulse control? I am well aware of natural desire and all, I always feel discriminated against, but do I do anything? NO. Would I like to? HELL YES.

Alright.
User avatar #231 to #225 - oxan (11/25/2012) [-]
What about those immigrant youth that obey the law and simply go about their day peacefully? And then what about those ethnic Scandinavians that claim discrimination and retaliate?

The point is that there's serious sociological issues that are present in multi-cultural societies. Violent opposition is simply a short-term 'solution'. Ultimately, socioeconomic factors, such as poverty generally endured by immigrants, are decisive factors that need to be address. Class is more important than ethnicity.
User avatar #259 to #231 - candidvres **User deleted account** (11/25/2012) [-]
Ok, I will submit to your point. You make a very valid point, thank you for educating me.

I see.... Yeah, it's more clear to me now that you say it. They are pretty poor, the troublemakers.
User avatar #207 to #201 - laserkirby (11/25/2012) [-]
At least it could been worse.
I would like to say that at least.
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