Oh you...

It was like this: Jews came to Israel, very few Arabs were there, also lots of Bedouins (no one talks about them for some reason). Jews said "we are going to live here", and Arabs said "well, we don't care, it's a fucking desert with nothing in it. Also Jerusalem, but we can share". Then Jews started to build things, and country became nice. Arabs went like "hey, NOW we care! Also it's nice here, let's bring our families from neighboring countries like Lebanon and Syria, because government in there kills them". Then the number of Arabs in Israel multiplied. Then Arab countries went "Hey that's a nice country, let's take it". They lost the war and some of their own territory. At that time Palestinians still were OK with Jews, you could go to Gaza (10 min ride) and buy fresh fruit and vegetables. Then some Arabs said "OK, we can't conquer them from outside, lets do this from inside", and so the bullshit started.

BTW, just so that you know, many Palestinians hate HAMAS, because they are as cruel to their own people. Israel never had trouble finding people who would pinpoint the location of ammunition warehouses and such.

I think it was more that the Jews came in there because they wanted the land of their ancestors back.

Well, not me, I just want a place to live and work, as long as the climate is tolerable it can be anywhere.

Yeah, how terrible of them to be reclaiming their land that they had taken from them, that the 'Palestinians' made their home for only some time. Palestine is not a nation, nor will it be for a long while. Besides, Israel's took 197 missiles today alone, 99 of which were intercepted.

It doesn't matter whose land it is or whose land it was. What matters is that a people that survived a genocide are committing a different one to a different group of people, and then they go around and try to make the people they are victimizing look like villains.

Genocide implies that they are simply exterminating a people based in ethnic or ideological differences. Considering they are actually just firing back at people who are lobbing shells at them, I don't think that is an accurate description of the situation. They have a right to defend themselves. The Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese have no right to attack them unprovoked as they have done repeatedly.

They're reclaiming their home. Their home which has a huge amount of relevance to their religion, and to their heritage. It's been the home of their people for thousands of years. It was home to the Palestinians for only a few decades.

So, That makes it okay to kill, By your logic America should go back to the natives, Britian must be shared by the Scandanavians and the Italians, Half of china should go back to mongolia.

Look at comment #112. At these points, it's been hundreds of years of these nations belonging to the people in them, and the Britain and China examples are terrible, because they were conquered and occupied by them, it wasn't the homeland of those cultures.

WHY ARE YOU FUCKING DEFENDING RELIGIUS FUCKING CUNTS!

Also if that is what you realy beleave , Greeks should go on a HUGE rampage
and wipe out all europe because of heritage .

What you say is stupid . They are just murderers nothing more nothing less .
Do not judge by the jews you meet in your school . They are not "Religius" jews ,
They do not see you as animals (Goym) like the bastards in Israel .

I'm not judging them by the Jews I know. I'm judging them by their rightful claim to their home. I'm iffy about the topic of Native Americans taking back America, because it wouldn't end well due to too many people being here for centuries, otherwise I'd gladly support Americans giving back the land to them. And Greece would be more like the Palestinians in this situation. They took over lands that were not theirs, and had them for a few decades or so, then lost them to other empires. If Greece was conquered though, twenty years from now, they would be trying to get back their home, and nobody would blame them.

So, you just need to calm down sir. It was their home for much longer is all I'm saying.

Funny thing is, there never was a "Palestine." Most of Israels current borders are located in an area that was once a no man's land that wasn't owned by any of the regional powers. The "Palestinians" were just nomads and traders moving between borders. The term Palestinian really just refers to the Arab inhabitants of the area that is now Israel. The people you're advocating are not repressed peoples of Israel, they are terrorists who advocate for a very genocidal treatment of the Jewish people, the same as the nations that back them. Don't think this conflict is about freedom- it's quite simply about eradicating the Jewish people of Israel.

the first place on earth that was inhabited was Jerusalem , it was there were the Christ was born , how come this was a no man land ?

At the time of the formation of Israel the land was under Jordanian rule, but not technically owned by anyone. Palestine is simply the geographic location. It's changed hands many time over the years... to say the least.

I can agree with you in that it certainly wasn't a level playing field.

An Annotated Preliminary History of the Israeli State:

The Zionist Jews had come from developed Europe, where structured government and international participation kept you relevant in the face of major international powers. The Middle East at this time was still largely Nomadic/Tribal, without an internationally involved central government. In addition to this, persecution of Jews in Europe during the Rise of the Third Reich bolstered the already rapidly growing Jewish population. Development of proto-government structures such as Hagana (1946?) by Zionist Jews coupled with pro-Zionist sentiment and sympathy for the emigration from central Europe from the Allied powers, an essentially non-existent Palestinian government, and the Western Powers' diminishing role as colony-holding empires gave the Zionists a huge advantage in state building in land and territory that wasn't presently theirs.
The Arab states were never truly unified, and when they were, their lack of political or military coordination made their military action against Israel in the '48 war helpless against the highly militarized and determined IDF.
What I cannot completely agree with is "systematically wiping out the Palestinians". Documentation of incidents from different cities point to varying positions of the events. Palstinian casualties are uncertain, but an estimated 650K Palestinian refugees were living on foreign aid in the late 1960s. Israel felt that their struggle was desperate, illustrated by the election of Ben Gurion as the leader of Israel, whose policy of regional security was to keep the surrounding Arab nations from coming stable enough to launch a large formal attack. This policy quickly one of expansionism as the Arab states' failure to unify a formidable armed force only lead to easy military victories for an expanding Israeli state.

There's a lot more, but I can't find my Arab-Israeli Conflict notes...

Sorry there are just so many ways to prove you wrong and i cannot resist to use at least half of them.
and another way:
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Side note that i forgot to mention your Muslims "Friends" are trying to wipe out the rest of the world

And ofcourse the Palestinians will fight back, ITS THEIR FUCKING COUNTRY!

You are trying so hard to prove your point, that it is pathetic. So cause they lived on a certain room/area during some time in the past, makes them the masters of it for all times.
Which would then mean that turks have a claim on region of the Far East including North China and Inner Mongolia, by your logic. And that is just off the top of my head.
I'll give you a very good advice, learn to thing before you speak. Arrogance is the most disguisting thing in the world, so get rid of it.

Ever heard about Nationalism? and what it means?
if you are such an idiot that doesn't even know what Nationalism means there is no point of talking to you.
and it isn't arrogance, it is frustration from talking to retarders that didn't even finish high-school

Nobody better then me. I've been hearing all my life about the local nationalist ambitions. The more it makes me wonder why would you throw that out. Call me stupid, but I see no point in your argument, but please feel free to enlighten me. Always looking forward to hearing other people's opinion even such a primitive one that depends on calling people names in order to prove he's right.

After the wake of Nationalism and the start of the "The education revolution"
-Jews suffered heavily in religion and in their stand in society.
the Jews couldn't stay of Europe because they like to talk but never take actions about what they promised (Emancipation)
-i hope you already know what happened in the education revolution,after that many people became Nationalist so because Israel needed a country BADLY (thanks to Europe even that they wanted to blend with Europe but of course they are pretty much Nazis in their methods of action)
and of course what is the common factors of Nationalism???
-shard Territory(that they care about)
-Language
-History
-Culture
the Jews already have a Language they already have a Culture and history but they still need a TERRITORY.
as you may know every nation have the right to have its own Country.
and that where the history and culture kicked in! where the Jews lived BEFORE they got banished to Europe? (Israel)

So Israel is the perfect place also it have all the religious places so the Jews have a strong feelings towards it
you may say the following:
".OMG OMG BUT THE MUSLIMS IN ISRAEL WHAT WILL THEY DO"-go read comment number #316.

Only Israel is in the way it is today it is because of your 9/11 loving friends if they were only not such idiots that try to take over the bloody world this wouldn't have happened.

Oh did you know England fucked Israel until the very last minute
before Israel announced and had an army Muslims will just go and kill Jews and guess what ** ENGLAND DID NOTHING** not just that they always checked for weapons at Jews but never at Muslims and they promised to defend Israel but they didn't .

most people that doesn't support Israel (could be even including you ) hate Israel only because they are racists in their blood.

Yea, that's all cool and sweet, especially your 316 comment I glanced at. But all in all, you are into some deep discusssion although you don't give any attention to the simple more humane problems.
One of those being that, it is very questionable whether it is possible to find an area in the world during recent history, that could be given to a ethnic group that is in need of one. I'll just put gypsies out there so you have an idea what I'm talking about. (-Language ,-History ,-Culture). I left shared territory that they all crave out, since that is called war.
Jerusalem is/was also a promissed land to the cristians, which brought crusader wars upon the world. Luckily there was no america then, and money didn't play such an important role, so muslims defended just ok.
So if jews happened to have their promised land here in Austria where I live, you would simply give us all israeli passports, and schools that are teaching german language, give us some alleged rights, and call it a day?
I may not have created a message that is written in an orderly manner, cause that would require too much work from my side, for something so easy to understand.
You are always mentioning israeli problems i.e. they didn't defend us then, uk was oposed to creating israel. I say hold on cowboy. Nobody denied that jews suffered. I say do we need to make others suffer as well?
So they lived in israel before.. I already spoke to you about this. I don't like calling people names and I won't start now, but let me tell you that you are bringing me into temptation. That was more than 1000 years ago. Whatever happened then is history. New generations were born that have nothing to do with their ancestors. Times have changed.
I hope you can respect what kind of an effort I put in this message since I really avoid speaking with people like you. I sometimes simply say to myself, hey I have my own problems and knowledge I lack and that I am aware of, without having to fix others people's.

Ever notice how the Israelis are wiping out the people through unfair sanctions and military occupying land that was promised to the Palestinians in a treaty written about 40 years ago? But then again, it is the "Promised Land" of the Jews so that gives them every right to live there and kill any opposition.

Actually there were people in Palestine before the 1940s.

There were also Jew in Palestine before the 19th hundred

Ofcourse there were!
and there were christians as well, but this isn't about religion, it's about europeans wanting to get rid of jews.

Do you even understand what are you saying?
The Jews HAVE NO PLACE TO GO!
because all over the world they are hated so you must say it is about religion? !
ever heard of the "Modern anti-Semitism"? because that was the last straw when the Modern anti-Semitism started to begin it was clear the Jews could never be a part of Europe or any other place and they need a place of their own.
also no one have done to them what they have done to the jews

aha , and where do you want the Palestinians to go ? Jordan does not want them , Egypt does not want them , and Lebanon does not want them.

Holy shit you are such an idiot.
i am ending this discussion right here right now because there is no point to speak about someone that knows nothing about Israel i can just talk to a four year old and he will understand more.
-ALL OF THE Palestinians AND ALL OF THEM that were in Israel before Israel was announced got an Israeli citizenship.
-Israel spends every year millions of dollars for schools for Arabs Muslims and more there are a lot of schools in Israel that TEACH IN ARABIC.
-Israel highly support the Muslims in Israel,Israel will not deny any of them their rights.
-Arabic citizens in Israel get the same treatment as anyone else (not like Europe)
-Israel does have Muslims towns.
-I see no reason why a Muslims or a plasticine can't live in Israel,only reason is their Racism nothing more.

Unlike the Jews they were not brutality forced to go somewhere else (this isn't Europe,Israel is a lot better)

also Side note:
-there was a test that people preformed (it was all staged of course but the people in the experiment was not aware of it )
it goes like this:
a Muslims woman enters a shop to buy coffee and the store keeper refuses to give her the coffee because she is Muslims and he claimed "i don't sell to Muslims"
and the people that with her in the store got mad BECAUSE A JEWISH REFUSE TO TREAT A MUSLIM EQUALS and they threatened to call the cops.

YES YES YES believe it or not the Jews are not racists fuck as most of Europe.
when we say Equal rights we actually deliver them and enforce them BY LAW AND SOCIETY.

You are the real hero of this argument. everyone that disagree with those FACTS and still thinks that the Israelis are the bad guys is plain stupid and should be ignored (just like he\she ignores those, once again, FACTS)

That might all be true, but shouldn't Israel stop beating the guys that are already down at some point? All those Facts are no justification for attacking civilians or forcefully moving them around like cattle if you ask me.

Also, I'm pretty sure that most of the Palestinian civilians don't really care about 9/11 or anything political for that matter, because they live in sheer terror their whole lives.

You can't say all Palestinians are evil because some of them made those decisions over 50 years ago. By that logic everyone should still wage war against Germany because of what the Nazis did.

I'm not trying to justify what they did back then, I'm just saying whatever it was is no excuse for genocide and treating people (including children) like lifestock and killing them with superior military power just because you can or their fathers did something bad at some point in time.

the neckbeards cometh

Cordon of Palestine, Israel, and the Gaza Strip. Wait ten years, throw an excessively large number of cats into the Gaza strip, cats take over, cats remove bodies, fuzzy overlords of the Gaza strip reign supreme.

because the last one ended so well :(

the jewish reich certinly is not as well dressed.

Facts dont lie unlike people.

notice how they shut up once the facts are out in the open

Yep. But I can blame him. If you live in a country you can t really judge it like people who don t live in it.

what? you can blame him? well since I no longer have a country to live in I think I am his polar opposite.

There is no cure for ignorance my friend. I would be angry at every solider that bombed my country I would have no time to live my life.

Bitching about it doesn't help, facebook status and news reports don't help, there's nothing I can do for my country at the moment but when the time comes that I'm able to do something constructive I'll take it but if China Invaded america and occupied it peace wouldn't be an option (i think I've been watching to much code geass) and it's not an option in this case either, If i could relocate all the Palestinians and make a new place I would but barely any of them see that as a choice they'd rather live on the land that was there's before and like it or not the Israelies can't deny that it was our land 1st weather they want to acknowledge it's existence or not isn't an issue this isn't the 1800's any more we can't just go colonize land and call other humans barbarians it's an absolutely primitive mentality.

My hearts with the people that died but my head is telling me that more unjustified violence can be avoided. Hamas aren't right and Israel is definitely not right but the facts don't lie more bloodshed has been caused since Israel occupied Palestine.

I don t know how I can help you with your problem. This situation is not something that can be solved with talking alone. Hell is going to break lose down there sooner or later and when it those there is no telling what might happen. If you want my opinion get the hell as far away from there as possible staying will only cause you more problems. Personally I don t like Jews. I know I might be a wrong but all I meet up until now where bad. In the WW2 we hid them from the Nazi but in the moment my country got occupied in the year 1993 they just walked away.

And at last a quote from CG : "When will a war end? When someone wins."

this chart dont show how many israelis died in gaza

1. Not for lack of trying. Hammas fires rockets almost exclusively into densely populated areas just trying to hit civillians.
2. Does this graph account for Hammas' use of human shields?
3. How many of those Palestinians were civillians?

Teenagers shot during demonstration on 30 September 2000 next to Ramallah by Israeli security forces.

Child and teenager killed by helicopter gunship attack on 1 October 2000 by Israeli Air Force.
ETC.
The amount of people killed since the year 2000 is 4,281 Palestinians.

And yea this is the best one that shows Israeli "defending"
Sleeping extended family killed in artillery attack on November 8, 2006 by Israel Defense Forces. 18 people died in their sleep most of them children under the age of 12.

White phosphorus is intended for large scale destruction, It's globally an Illegal weapon and for good reason, Israel punishes resistance it doesn't retaliate it. It punishes hamas by going after the civilians the tactics are the proof there is no need to use a weapon like that, ever.

Israeli killed more children then soldiers.If you think that is self defense you need to get help.

what can Israel do when the Hammas leaders hid in hospitals and kindergartens, and storage all of their weapons in civilians houses? Israel is even sending brochure's before attacking telling the people to go hide, and don't try to say it ain't so, I watched that Al-Jezzira and saw that.

So killing children is ok ? Following that logic the rocket attacks where also ok , the shit the nazi done was also ok and the things that are about to happen will also be ok.
The Arabs also warned Israel several times to leave the area or Palestine following your logic its ok for them to just come to Israel and wipe everyone out ?

are you fucking stupid, how does this have anything to do with the Nazis? the Nazis didn't try to warn anyone they just went out and tried ti kick all the Jews out and when nobody was willing to take them the Nazis just tried to do a genocide. and the massages Israel is sending is "get out, we are going to to shoot here now to destroy Hammass weapons, you can come back here later, it is a shame for you to die". while the Arabs said "get the fuck out and don't come back, you are not welcome here, if you won't leave or you will come back we will kill you." Israels attacks were meant at the Hammas and it's weapons, while Hammass rockets are mainly aimed at Shderot, a small town with barely any troops in.

Look you are clearly to stupid to see any other point of view then the one your government tells you to. In just from the 14 November to the 17 of November Israeli killed 38 civilians and wounded 289 people.
And yes Israel is even worse Third Reich. You may call one , ten , twenty deaths an accident.But 4000 deaths are by far no accident its a mass killing of people or should I use the Greek word for it Genocide.The only difference between Israel and the Reich is that Israel has USA backing it up and once that stops we will see who the real terrorists are.

o.k. you know what, your comment here is so stupid that I am going to end this whole argument that you are pulling those numbers, especially that 4000 out of your ass, unless you are counting this since Israel got out of Gaza, and even that if you count the people Hammas killed, Israel even haven't started the land attack on Gaza, all of it's air attacks are on weapon warehouses that are more isolated then the rest that of them.
and how exactly do you know this exact number in such a short time unless it is your "government" (Hammas) that's filling you with this bullshit.

Did I ever say I m a Muslim or did I ever say that I live anywhere close to you.If you want I can put the links to the web-sides where you can easily find what Israel is doing its not hard to find. And above all you are contradictory in your "arguments" ( which are non existent) If you just think one minute about what you are saying you will notice that you are wrong.

that is fucking bullshit. if isreal had the motivation and gave any fucks about people under hamas, they could just kill the assholes with spec-ops or commandos, do not fucking tell me about how difficult it would be, for them, they do much more difficult on an easy (for them) day.

you really think Israel doesn't try to do that? how can Israel do that when the leaders of Hammas hide in hospitals and kindergartens, the moment the come out of there though they are great danger, this whole fucking war started when Israel pin-pointed a rocket at Ahmed Jabari's car, and only he and his bodyguards got killed from that rocket.

a missile? you don't fucking use a missle for shit like that. fuck what I said, they are just run by idiots. sould have picked the fuck off with rifles.

and how do you send 4-5 men into the heart of the enemy and then get them out of there alive? when there no places for a plane to land to pick them up are drop them off without being seen by a fuckload of enemy troops?

they planned a raid and snuk through three countries, killed hundereds of armed troops, (not palestinian civies) blew up a nuclear power plant, and then snuk back, tell me how they did that if you know so much about isreali military.

you are talking about countries with open fields where you can do all this shit like Iran, but we are talking about Gaza here, a tiny area where there is no place for a plane to land there to pick up people or for troops to parachute down without being seen.

parachute down? I just said thit is not the approach to take, a plane is not "sneaky" a parachute is not "sneaky" you do it by being quiet.

and how can you "sneak" into a heavily populated area that every point of it is being observed?

lots of ways, plan your own raid on gaza.

but thats just the thing, there are none! the border is being watched, the docks are being watched and the skies are being watched, the area is not big enough to sneak in a descent enough amount of troops to get the job done.

in a situation like that, if they start shooting, they are not "palestinian" they are "hammas" perhaps their leaders need to start applying different labels if you look at my conversation with someone above, I am not entirely biased, also, it may appear that the palestinians are.......nuttier then a guy (me) that has been in-and-out of a mental hospital if they trust these hamas people, carpetbombing them with napalm, might accually be doing them a favour. I normally perfer the "underdog" but, these people make a "futile effort" look like a garunteed sucess.
sorry for troubleing you, but as usual, I assume I'm the lowest standard for dumb/insane, and I'm wrong....the irony is enough to kill me alone. (why do I bother not being really cocky, such a waste of time....)

If I were a blindly cocky man, I would be joking about how you should make that place like "hell at noon" and sue their un-inhabited land for social expirements to understand the "silent revolution" in somalia, mogadishu insead of letting one of "history's worst mistakes"(muslims) occupy that hole.

*USE their land.

Both sides are equally at fault here: You got Israel trying the eradicate terrorists by indiscriminately bombing everything, including civilians, While on the other hand, Hamas is fighting to overthrow a country (which is damned near impossible) by constantly attacking Israel believing Israelis wont retaliate.

In other words, it's Goliath Israel vs David Hamas, but Hamas is using fists not a sling shot (yes I know Hamas is Arab, I just wanted to make a semi-relevant analogy)

....they seriously think that they won't get bombed for that shit?

Sorry, I'm not quite sure about that point, I shouldn't of mentioned it in the first place (I was assuming they believed that Isreal wouldn't retaliate, since they seem to just do small scale rocket attacks constantly).

Nonetheless, Hamas is still attempting a mission that is damned near impossible since the Isrealis have owned this land ever since post-WW 2 and are deemed a legitimate country (not to mention that they want Jerusalem as the capitol of Palestine, which Israel does not want to give up). They are basically just adding fuel to the fire so to speak.

But like I mentioned before, it doesn't give any more rights to the Israelis to just send bombers over there and systematically annihilate every single civilian in Gaza, even if Hamas hides in hospitals. They are committing crimes against humanity by bombing these people.

So both are at fault imho

well, I have herd these "hamas" people are stupidly reckless. (being only slightly more sucessful in their rocket attacks than kim-jong, and he had to shoot all the way across the puddle.) and they have mosly killed "danger close" palestinians, even if iut is not confirmed, it certinly rings true.

Yeah, it's obviously a legit reason to support one side because kills with superior weapon technology, but be against the side, that kills by killing themselves because they don't get their asses stuffed with american weapon systems. seems legit.

then let me ask you, how come the US and UN support Israel and not the Palestinians?

politicsontoast.com/2011/11/24/why-does-the-united-states-still-support-israel/

Pretty good article. They support Israel for many reasons - But being the victims is definetly not one.

the article is literally saying that America is a blind sheep for the sake of Israel. I wonder who said that before?

Apparently someone who knows what's going on.

You would hate reddit

thumbed because I want your .gif

You can just save it fgt.

That's dyke to you, buddy.

I lawled so hard

It's like Goldeneye 64, he picked up two assault rifles (G36C)

your comment gave me hope.
bravo.

yeah, Isreal did start it with that assassination, hamas retaliates by rockets and kills 3 people. Israel then says hamas started it and bombs the palestinians, killing 10 (last I heard) and injuring a further 20

hamas fired several hundred rockets into israel before the assassination took place.

Fuck the assassinations how about them invading their country destroying all its riches?

since when was it ever 'their' country? the majority of israel was a desert when the Jews came back. There has never in the history of Israel been a state called palestine. Israel is only flowing with milk and honey because the Jews made it so. We developed the land. All the Palestinians want to do is destroy what we worked for.

Yeah like 6000 years ago a lot has happened is 6000 The chrisitans owned Jerusalem not so long ago about a 100 years ago the muslims freed jerusalem after the holy wars and the christians crusades...blablabla after the muslims freed "palestine" they allowed the jews to live in it they was like a truce needless to say the jews violated that truce because o that they were kicked out of muslim territory
survival of the fittest baby :*

There have always been Jews living there for over 6000 years. We never really left. The muslims didn't 'free' anything. If you're talking about the ottoman empire, they did conquer the land, but ottomans aren't arabs.

i'm not talking about the ottoman empire :p
I'm talking about omar ibn khatab! and alomaoueyah empire that conquered the world all the way from eastern china to spain! did they teach you about them in history? I doubt it,anyways the jews always lived in Jerusalem but not always owned it...and what they are doing to gaza now is just inhuman if hammas is at war with isreal why are they killing everyone and bombing their houses? you'd say because hammas isn't well organised and doesn't have headquarters or whatever....that doesn't give them the right to make children orphans and wives widows

because hamas stores their weapons IN the houses... hurr durr.

**sweetdreamsnigger rolled a random image posted in comment #70 at Facebook ** You obviously should blame the world, after all, the UN made an election for making the state of Israel and THE WORLD AGREED

the palestinians didnt agree to this

And Israel is not abiding by what the UN decided which are the 1947 lines. They keep pushing and building in the West Bank. They swore they'd go back to those boarders years ago.

The UN is the laughing stock of the world stage, nowhere is this more evident than the Middle East.

Well yes but why do they not expect resistance then, They were supposed to stay within the boarders of the 1947 agreement but they haven't. Hamas is fighting because Israel is on Palestinian land.

You know why they haven't? Because all arab countries attacked them and Israel had no other choice but fight, and Israel happend to win a lot of territories.

And after those wars promised to leave and return to the 1947 lines. Instead they've taken more. Where's your point?

1) When you go to war don't be surprised if you lose and pay for it, sometimes with lands.
2) They don't want the borders of 1947, they want All of Israel. There is no one to negotiate with...

I'm Jewish, and I agree.

yeah jewish people lived there too

Yes because watching a propagandic youtube video will clear my view on the subject.

Look i don't really care either way, and don't want to argue about who kills who. As long i can see world burn and be in unrest, i'm happy.

I'd really like to put you in my shoes. I'm a soldier in the IDF (Israeli Defense Forces) and i can tell you that it is a living hell. Running from shelter to shelter, living in constant fear that god knows when a freaking rocket could fall on me or my family and friends. It's a sick world man, did you know we just got bombed in our capital city Jerusalem? It's all fun and games until it becomes real. I'll be so god damn happy to see you walking in my shoes, and start crying like a 7 years old girl, shitting your pants in fear. You're a real big shot behind your little monitor, aren't you? So tell me, my big and strong hero, why an 18 years old boy needs to see his friends die on the field in a war they didn't ask for? Why am I being sent into Gaza with a death wish? Is it fair that I demand peace, but get a rifle instead of a pen? Why should I keep fighting in this endless war? I'll tell you why: Because I have no choice...

It's true that there are two sides to this story:
1) I totally agree that some of the Palestine are treated poorly, but how could you blame Israel? Don't bite the hand that feed you.
2) Some of the IDF soldiers are just as bad as the terrorists
BUT:
1) Israel has always been a Jewish land
2) Israel is only defending herself after 12 years of being bombed by Gaza (too little too late if you ask me)
3) Israel had tried to negotiate with the Palatines, but there is no one to negotiate with, because this "country" is run by fanatic maniacs who only wish to destroy Israel
4) Saying the terrorists are some kind of freedom fighters and not fanatic religious blind maniacs, is a foolish thing to say. killing Jews for Allah is no fight for freedom.
And this is only the tip of the iceberg, a little glance to the Israeli side of the story

because religion

It's much more than just religion beliefs...
I hope you enjoy disliking a man's sad story of losing his friend on the battle field, in a war he didn't ask for.

how many years you have left, or do they have you for the duration?

Currently I have 3 more years to serve, but it looks like we're kind of in a beginning of a war, a really serious one. I just hope I'll survive it, and won't go down like my friend...

what will you do after your service is over?

Probably leave this country..

didnt dislike the comment

Sudden change of subect:

You tell people to watch their grammar, but don't throw rocks when you live in a house of glass, you fucking idiot...

Just had to say that...

What's wrong with my grammar, you turd?

"i", "18 years old boy", etc...

Also, fine if you demand peace...who doesn't? I'd like peace in this world too.

because Israel never kill civilians.

the Israeli government and Hamas are just as bad, and the civil population on both sides suffers for it.

And did you know that the Hamas terror actions are all executed by civilians that want all the Jews to die? It's a war being fought by brained washed civilians, the same civilians which Israel gives electricity and water supplies to. We try to negotiations and we get a war instead. Believe me man, I want peace, and I like the Arabs, but we have no choice but to defend ourselves. I would really appreciate if you'll try watching the link, and consider the Israeli side of the story.
P.S: I would also appreciate if you'll stop disliking my comments. It's a crazy world out there and I am just trying to tell my country's side of the story

I am saying both sides are to blame. not just one of them. im not siding with anyone, in ther words I don't dislike with your comments. I just disagree. I see this from a neutral stance. Both sides are to blame and don't pull this " it's only cuz we're jews" shit. IDGAF what religion people have, what I care about is what they do with other people. Christian, Muslim, Jew, atheist.. It doesn't matter. what matters is what a person do, that matters. so before assuming i am siding with either, Don't, because I ain't. The civil population on both sides are suffering, the sooner Hamas gets taken away and the sooner Israel get a less Bush-style government the better it will be for both parties. War solves nothing, nor does genocide.

Both sides are to blame. the only true victims are the civilians on both sides that get caught up in it, the worst part is it when a nation deny UN to send in medical supply and water to aid the victims.

What about the 65 un resolutions broken by Israel?
How come when Iran broke 2, it was invaded?
Also, if Israel wants peace, why is Israel bigger than it was in the 40's?

There is good and bad in everything..

I'm so happy that smart people still exist. And I totally agree with you. I'm muslim and I have jewish, christian and atheist friends. But there are some jews (here in Germany) who are butthurt when someone critizes Israel. But these ppl. exist in every country in every religion.

I like your way of thinking sir.