Ron Paul would've been another Andrew Johnson or John Tyler; - #73761759 added by hammerfell at Liek A BAWS

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Why does everyone on this site suck Ron Paul's dick?
Personally, I do agree that Ron Paul is correct that we need to end the drug war and end the wars in the Middle East, those are amazing ideas, and I commend him for that.

However on the other hand, he is a fundamentalist, creationist who doesn't believe in evolution, and does not believe in gay rights, he wants anti-sodomy laws, ban abortions, and make gay marriage illegal or at least allow it to be illegalized under the states.
I don't care who you are, if you aren't willing to embrace the fact that gays should be able to marry, or women can't do what they want with their body, I'm sorry, but kill yourself before you continue to pollute the gene pool.
Aside from his economic and social policies, his foreign policy and drug policy are phenomenal, that's the only thing that's awesome about him, most of the people I see who want to elect Ron Paul just want him to be elected for weed, don't be that retard, just don't.

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#174 to #110 - anon id: eee72b3f

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Look, we aren't a ******* "democracy". We're a ******* "republic". A republic is just about the worst form of government, particularly because the only ones who do vote are the ones elected to vote. The term "republic" just makes it sound nicer here, particularly because our government and opinions will always be ****** up to the point of the whole world hating us. Ron Paul in office would be a ******* improvement.

#184 to #174 - paulbot

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A democracy is any form of government which allows citizens to have a say in the election of government officials.

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So let me get this straight....You're arguing that women should be able to do whatever they want with their bodies......and gays should be able to marry.......but you DON'T believe that everyone has the right to express their opinions? "Kill yourself." Instead of embracing the fact that we live in a democracy (although a corrupt one) where you have the right to speak your mind, you tell people to kill themselves. Please, tell me how accepting you are, you ******* cunt

#370 to #156 - yuknowherpderp

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Did I say they don't have a right to express their opinion? No you ******* imbecilic pile of ****, I just think they're a waste of ******* air.

#182 to #156 - paulbot

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Nazis are cool guys. They have the right to express their hate for gays and Jews too. Hate these ******* people who think that hating gays and Jews should be a war crime. God damn it.

#147 to #110 - basichaharemix

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1. Don't insult people while you are expressing your opinion.
2. Get your facts straight before expressing your opinion.
3. Don't let something that you are for (gay marriage) completely cloud your judgment on a political figure.

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Ron Paul doesn't believe in banning abortion or gay marriage, he's not a fundamentalist, he's a Christian who doesn't believe in evolution but doesn't want the government to get involved as such.
Got to learn to educated, Ron Paul is pratically a Libertarian, he believes the government should stick their heads out of such.

#133 to #110 - SubjectThree

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We "suck his dick", as you so rudely put it because:

1. In 2002, Ron Paul predicted every economic event that has happened to the U.S. since then.
2. He is the only one who realizes both the Republican Party and Democratic parties are irreparably corrupted, despite zealously supporting Republicans in his early career.
3. Makes no attempt to hide the fact that he wants the internet to remain completely out of government legislation.
4. Realizes that the only true defense against a crazed gunman is a sane gunman.
5. Is not "pro-gay" or "anti-gay", he believes it's none of the government's damn business.
6. Calls himself pro-life, but believes that "the federal government has no authority whatsoever to involve itself in the abortion issue."
7. Spoke out against the institutionalization of public schools and how education was taking a backseat.
8. Believes that marijuana's legality should be determined on a state-by-state basis.
9. Believes that all citizens should know English because bilinguality alienates the Hispanic communities.

Suck that.

#188 to #133 - paulbot

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Any third party candidate thinks that both the republicans and democratic are bad.

He is a registered republican and ran for president as a republican.

Or not have a gunman in the first place.

He thinks gays are bad, but he wants the states to make gay marriage illegal, not the fed.

Anything that involves basic human rights is the feds business as well. You should not give the states the right to decide if slavery is okay or not for example.

He wants to get rid of state education entirely, which isn't speaking out against it much.

#136 to #133 - basichaharemix

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Ron Paul truly is the president we needed...

#290 to #136 - hammerfell

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Ron Paul would've been another Andrew Johnson or John Tyler; he would not have gotten **** done, because nobody in Congress likes him. If anything, Congress would be so united against him that it could override everything he tried to do.

#296 to #290 - basichaharemix

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Kind of what they are doing with Barack Obama...

#298 to #296 - hammerfell

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Obama has the help of the Democratic Senate majority, and the large chunk of the House that is also Democratic, while Ron Paul doesn't even get that.

#304 to #298 - basichaharemix

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The only reason why they don't like Ron Paul is he speaks the truth and they seriously cannot handle it, so this is how they retaliate which is just childish. So what if they don't like who he is as a person, listen to his policies and ideals there is something that they can agree on. Policies comes before personalities

#138 to #136 - SubjectThree

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That's why I voted for him in the primaries.

The only time I've ever voted.

#129 to #110 - senglish

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he doesn't compromise his beliefs for his campaign.

#127 to #110 - Namezone

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what's wrong with being a creationist and not believing in evolution? that doesn't make him a bad person, just one with different views than you about our origin. He believes states should make the final decisions on: gay marriage, Marijuana legalization, Abortions, (though his personal views are that he doesn't want to be gay, and believes life begins at conception) and the person(s) you got your information from was(were) also misinformed.

As for weed legalization, i don't smoke weed, but its legalization and even commercialization makes more sense than it being illegal.

(PS, stupidity isn't in your genes unless you're a neanderthal, or have a legitimate genetic defect, it's learned)

#190 to #127 - paulbot

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Evolution is a theory. Like gravity. Not believing in evolution is stupid.

A scientific theory, which is what evolution is - A well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment.

Life beginning at contraception is incorrect. A fetus does not have any aspects that make it fit the definition of life. It does not even have mental thought. A tree is more of a human life then a fetus.

IQ is partly determined by genes.

#283 to #190 - Namezone

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literally hundreds of flaws can be found in evolutionary theory, so no, it's not stupid to refuse its validity. Refusing its validity also doesn't influence your intelligence, oddly enough. Most of the world's great minds believe(d) in creationism, so there's that.

"a tree is more human than a fetus" genetically, no. anatomically, no. developmentally, no. i know you mean that as an exaggeration, but it was a silly one.

I.Q. has little to no relation to actual intelligence, and it's a correlative relationship, not a causative one. Children separated from their parents for life have had totally different scores than their parents because of different education levels.

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Woah doggy..... He believes in rights for all. He doesn't think that homosexuality is correct but he does not believe that imposing laws here on Earth is the right way to show that belief. He believes that God will handle it. You know almost nothing about this man if you believe that he thinks that gays should not have rights. He believes that, under the Federal government, all people should have the same rights.

#193 to #123 - paulbot

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He is against homosexuality. He thinks states should have the decision to make it illegal.

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The world is coming to a financial collapse and all you people care for is the gays? Lol absolutely ridiculous.

This is why I can't stand you people.

#284 to #121 - fnerkfnerk

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The world is coming to a financial collapse and all you people care for is the making it hard for gay people to live in peace? Lol absolutely ridiculous.

This is why I can't stand you people.

#163 to #121 - makethingsworse

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I choose the rights of a human being over money.

#146 to #121 - certifiedidiot

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I honestly do put very basic human rights, that are only opposed by religion, a thing that shouldn't have anything to do with the law and way a country is run, above the financual sector

We created money, we can create infinite amounts of money, I know money is important for the world, but I do not understand it, and I honestly ask if he are in control of the money or if it is in control of us

I just think after so many years, we need to get human rights.. Right.

#125 to #121 - augustusxxiv

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#120 to #110 - mikepetru [OP]

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he's not against gays being together, he just doesn't think the government should be involved in any marriage, PERIOD. Also, although he believes life starts at conception, he believes issues of abortion laws are reserved to the states. An anti- abortion person believes abortion is a violent crime, and all other violent crimes are tried by the STATE, not by the Federal government, so there should be no federal law for or against it. Ron Paul wishes to use persuasion, not force, to get people to recognize unborn children as human beings with rights.

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The state government is still a ******* government. He think gay marriage, abortion, and other **** should be made illegal by state governments, but not by the fed. He is against gay marriage and abortion.

Why do people think it is okay for the state to **** people over, but if the fed does it everyone goes *******.

The entire point of the fed originally was to protect basic rights. Saying that there should not be a federal law for certain rights is retarded.

He will never be elected president. People are uneducated about what he actually believes and say they think he would be amazing because "420 POT SMOKE 4 LYFE"

He is against the civil rights act.
www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/civil-rights-act/
Against abortion. (a group of cells without any thought is not a human)
www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/abortion/
He wants to get rid of most taxes which is a horrible idea for the economy for obvious reasons.
www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/taxes/
Thinks global warming is fake.
www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/global-warming/
He thinks opening up the market and giving health care companies even more control will fix the healthcare problem, which is simply wrong. Companies exist to make money. If there are no regulations they can do whatever the **** they want to make money.
www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/health-care/
He wants to destroy state education. This is retarded because it means people who can't afford school won't go.
www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/education/

So ya, he is good on foreign policy and drugs. That is it. Every other idea he has is completely horrible. Quit getting hyped over something you don't understand.

#157 to #148 - mikepetru [OP]

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for one who accuses other of not knowing what they're talking about, you seem to be abhorrently misinformed. Maybe if you actually heard in speak in depth on these issues, instead of reading a general statement on his stances from his website, you wouldn't be so arrogant.

#179 to #157 - paulbot

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All of the things mentioned in those links come from things he said in interviews or things from his speeches.

If you heard him speak in depth you would of gathered the same information.

#158 to #157 - mikepetru [OP]

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*heard him

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