We may not have siberia but northeastern alaska is pretty damn close. What is the current punishment for treason in the US? Lynching would be a good option I think. Y'know, a taste of their own medicine.

Also treason is defined basically as going to war or being involved in war plans against the states of the U.S, so if the secession petition explicitly states the desire for peaceful relations with the rest of the Union after they secede, where is the treason you have already found?

Removing territory from the USA should be considered an unlawful seizure of governmental territory. If North Korea came and annexed Hawaii without firing a shot would we just say "okey dokey no violence here". Taking territory from the USA for any reason should be considered an act of war by another country, or treason by someone from your own country, period. Those who commit treason are breaking John Locke's social contract with their home nation, and therefore do not deserve the entitlements that go along with it, including the valuation and protection of their life. Go ahead and secede people like you make the US look bad anyway.

Look don't talk to me like I'm four when you clearly have never opened a book. Yes, North Korea would be engaging in a coercive manner if it forcefully TOOK "territory" from the United States (threats are force so explicit violence isn't a necessity for force to occur). However secession does not imply coercive actions against anyone, how can the U.S. proclaim to own the land/"territory" whose title of ownership belongs to a citizen, the thought in itself is absurd. Not to mention the unnecessary destruction of property and life a war is bound to bring. The only way the North Korea example would be valid is if the residents of Hawaii wanted to secede and join North Korea, but then this wouldn't be annexation.


Furthermore, if you say they took the territory, and that doing so is treasonous, whereas the only difference between the treasonous Texan and the law-abiding Texan is the fact that they seceded, then there must have been a crime. Was their crime wanting to govern themselves and using secession as a means to achieve this goal just like our Founding Fathers did to Great Britain?


Finally John Locke repeatedly pronounces his support for secession in his works. He also gives each man inviolable rights to life, liberty, and property, which is the principle from which my argument above came from. Now go pretend to know things somewhere else.

You think the South was in the right in the civil war. Therefore your argument is invalid.

Go die in a fire.

When did you last hear of a secessionist lynching someone? So your plan is to take those people that only want to govern themselves and either hang or burn them for that belief, you're a sick fuck. Furthermore you're correlating secession with racism which is entirely false, in fact many prominent abolitionists were pro-Southern secession because they believed it would help end slavery faster. To put it forcefully not granting a state the right to secession is enslaving that state. Just as a master forces the slave to obey the government forces Texas to obey. We may feel free, but a good analogy is that we are like free-range chickens, lots of room to do what we want, but in no way can we be considered free.

secessionist states=southern states=racist states=states that lynched black people.

was that so hard?

You are literally too stupid to insult. I now hate the south even more knowing that they teach that version of "history" in school sometime after the lesson on how the world is only 3000 years old, and that Jesus rode on dinosaurs.

But to lynch 100,000 people? I doubt that would go over nicely.

Now that petition I would like to see.

https://petitions . whitehouse . gov/petition/strip-citizenship-everyone-who-signed-petition-secede-and-exile-the m/ZbMjcwPf