seems legit

thought the exact same. It's not like we (non-muslims) don't generalize it too.

the world would be a better place if everyone just mind there own business no need to hate someone you probably wont ever meet in real life.

btw not every Muslim is an Arab and not every Arab is a Muslim.

Bingo

Another thing is that NOBODY ever talks about the Hundreds of thousands of civilians killed in the war on terror by american forces.

Plus america armed Israel which in turn caused thousands of deaths.

Just saying america isnt free from guilt either.

That's not really relevant, but okay

Wow, the majority of the muslims are peaceful?because everytime there is a riot or an election i dont usually see them, where are they hiding?, im sorry, but until i see them i would have to continue believing in what i see with my own eyes

Dude, have you read the opinion polls of those countries

you know I would love to agree with you buddy, but you can't really blame anyone for thinking these things considering they rioted all over the place.

well I'm a Muslim living in a small town in Israel and no gave a fuck about that movie here

Yeah mate I can tell you're cool, but while I'm really not on the side of 'Murica, swiss newspapers don't lie.
The riots are a fact and I think it's rather sad, buncha people died too.

you know those riots happened in north Africa and Arab countries which is a part of Muslims but not all of them, I'm not Arab

fair 'nuff, but they do still happen.

it's the loud part that taints the view of the whole.

it was according to plane.

genuinely funny.

Its not like your mind is manipulated just that in the other way arround, one coin two sides

>"thanks 4 ur"
>comments about spelling
wut?

Hey Canadia, how are you doing today?

That really embarrassing actually. I feel like such a retard now.
Reminds me of my first day of school in Malaysia, I went to the front of the class and said "My name is Max and i am from Canadian"

This cool story was brought to you by bro.

I couldn't resist when I saw it. Anyway, your point is a fair and well explained one, so I'll give you a green to buffer any potential reds.

Ha! I used to have chickens, they absolutely refuse to move their heads. I'm stealing this.

yea but i wouldnt really call them the minority :/

that cock is so sturdy!

agreed.

Yet it still gets frontpage.
Go figure.

FJ is full of retards?

This shouldn't be news at this point, but yes.

Having freedom of speech does NOT mean you're free from the consequences of what you say.

That is in the case of your words bringing harm to others. If you yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater for shits and giggles and someone gets trampled, bam you're in trouble. If you voice your opinion on something and everyone freaks out and loots shit, that's the fucked up people's fault. Not yours. The guy go arrested for "probation" violations and I really hope that that's the case, because if not our country has some serious issues. Making a film to satire something he disagrees with falls under freedom of speech. The barbarism of the Muslims who responded is just that, barbarism.

Non-Muslims have no reason to abide by Islamic laws and should not be expected to.
Obviously the video was stupid and offensive and almost certainly intended to provoke a reaction, but that doesn't justify violently rioting in the streets, killing people and destroying property.

To me it is the dark ages of Islam atm.
Christianity went through this in Europe.
If you portrayed Jesus Christ in a way that was disrespectful you would be executed.
If you blasphemed you would be locked away forever as the best case scenario.
They would just cut your head off.

Pretty much.
But Christianity in modern times is all grown up and mostly harmless. Islam's still going through puberty.

you dpn't undertsand freedom of speech

what?

You're an idiot.
Did you know that?
You probably do.

Ok

freedom of speech =/= disrespect

freedom of speech give you the right to express your opinion while maintaining respect,
while the movie was entirely made as means of insult to muslims.

If you're going down in a blaze of redthumbs, good sir, then it would be my honor to stand beside you.

I agree, wholeheartedly.

MFW Redthumbers

its ok, that's how opinions works on FJ.

Can't do shit about floods, hurricanes or tornadoes. Natural disasters aren't malevolent and they can't be prevented.

Obviously lots of people care about racism as every time there a conflict between two people of different races, the American media loses its collective shit.

Don't you mean two buses filled with Israelis? Typically the Palestinians don't suicide bomb their own kind.

No, it was an american suicide bomber who ran up to the two busses and blew up between them. Luckily no palestinians were hurt. The 6 casualties were bulgarian, so no one really cared.

The news article:
tinyurl.com/cg2n228

Unless you're watching something like PressTV, I don't know how to came to that.

Where do you get your news from? The story was about an Arab disguised as an American tourist had suicide bombed a bus, killing 5 Israelis.

The news. They said there were 5 dead bulgarians and someone who was badly injured and that the terrorist looked like an american. Not my fault they try to disinform people.

where are you from? (since you have so many palestinians and racism....I would say Israel)

A liiiiiiiiiiiiittle to the west.

Neighbour eh? Since when do you have suicide bombers and palestinians?

They were tourists. The country may be poor, dirty and dangerous, but the low prices attract assloads of people from all over the world, especially from Russia(alcohol), Japan(food and friendlyness) and the near east (low prices)

I love our Balkan aproach...``Shit is happening? Oh well nothing new...our entire history is surviving clusterfucks`` But as of reacently they are trying to push that American ``OMG we are going to die! Pedophiles and rapist are everywhere! PANIC`` aproach to life

So, if somebody insults the one thing you hold dear, you get to go storm embassies and kill innocent people? Seems legit.

no it's not, but please tell me what could I do as a Muslim to not be judged like I am now because of those extremist/killers? even though it's clearly forbidden in Islam to kill for such a stupid reason.

btw most terrorist claim to be "Muslims" when they know not the slightest idea of the consequences of killing an innocent life would be.

The problem is that the terrorists do not consider their victims to be "innocent".

'I have been commanded to Fight against people till they testify there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prostration prayer, and pay Zakat. If they do it, their blood and property are protected"

"O believers! Fight the unbelievers"

"For them (in return) is the Garden (of Paradise). They Fight in Allah's Cause, and slay others and are slain, they kill and are killed. It is a promise binding on Him in the Taurat (Torah), the Injeel (Gospel), and the Qur'an. And who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah?"

All of these quotes indicate that war for religion and "conversion" is a holy and righteous thing. Now, I'm Christian and we get hammered a fair bit with out of context quotes, so if these are out of context, please tell me, but this does indicate a certain inherent violence to the religion doesn't it?

How do you want to differentiate yourself? I don't think that, just because you're Moslim, you're going to go and kill me for being Christian, that'd be ludicrous, I have some friends who are moslim and so far, we haven't engaged in grand Royal battles to the death. You can differentiate yourself from extremists by either:

A: leaving the Muslim faith

or

B: by living a better life and showing via action that you don't support the messages of violence.

sorry my english needs more practice, I meant the Sunna hate the Shia more than the Jews

No problem mate, English isn't the most consistent language in the world, it's worse than Latin!

wait, could you please tell me where did you get these quotes from?
I am kinda happy that you're Christian because it's gonna be easier to explain my situation.

Islam (just like Christianity) branches into many sects, one of the many is Shia (my belief) which is a minority, now in most parts of the world hates Islam and I don't have to explain why, but I myself is being hated from Muslims themselves (ofcourse not all) but most Mulims are Sunna (which is the largest sect) and I doubt that you'll believe me if I tell that we're being hated by the Muslim Sunna more than Jews.

I could easily choose A (your answer) get from this whole stupid hatred and live my life as I want, but I did my homework and I have been searching (and still is) about the truth is't science or god? is't Islam, Christianity or Jewish? is't Sunaa or Shia? Catholics or Orthodox? and many many I don't have the time to mention, the result is there's no complete answer, neither science nor religion could have answer it all (may be I need more research) but the religion and sect I am in now satisfy me the best, spiritually and scientifically.

long story short; in the holy book it says that killing an innocent life as if killing the whole humanity, and saving it as if saving the humanity.

I got them from a wikipedia, just google "quran quotes jihad" and there is a wikipedia source page. I haven't read the quran so I don't know the context, meaning that it is quite possible that these are not the actual messages that were meant to be sent.

I see, the Shia-Suni divide! It's actually quite unfortunate that most people don't know about the two main sects. I don't disbelieve you when you say that you are more hated, it's kind of like how Catholics (my religious group) and Protestants (the other main group) tend to but heads a lot more than Catholics and Jews do, we both believe that the other preaches incorrect doctrine by manipulating the same source.

Just out of curiosity, what is it that you find lacking in the belief systems that you mentioned?

But how is innocent life defined? Doesn't disbelief in allah get defined as sinful?

about the first question, it's nothing big it's just about the space/time concept in religion and the judgement day, I just wonder if space is created by God then time is as well, and if time is created then is judgement day already happened? maybe in another dimension? ( sorry it's a bit hard to explain but I hope you understood what I mean)

the second question, Quran teaches us to be peaceful and respectful to those who do the same to us and forgive those who aren't, and yes if someone disbelief in Allah you can defined him/her as sinful but still an innocent as well, I mean he will be always innocent regardless of what he believes in to me, and I don't have the right to judge him, the prophet of Islam I believe in had a Jew as a neighbor and that jew used to throw trash in front of the prophet's doorstep everyday, Mohammed the prophet noticed one day that the trash wasn't there and he then knew that his neighbor was sick, he visited him to ask about him and if he needs anything, that's what they teach when we were kids that if anybody offend you then you have to act like the prophet and forgive.

I hope I was of a little help and answered your questions .