Greek Creation Myth

Because we stopped believing in these Greek fairy tales and discovered Jesus Christ! /sarcasm

Greeks also had sex with young boys.

Well that's one thing the Catholic church kept from the old days...

Because people haven't evolved.

Though Id be careful in using Greeks in comparison, they were also big into orgies, animal sex, pedophilia, and sexual favors from small boys.

that sounds really like catholic religion...

So does that make everyone on /b/ Grecian?

The greek often had same sex relationships among men. It was also very common for a 32 year old man to impregnate a 12 to 16 year old girl. (for instance, when Odysseus is stranded on an island, he is found by a 13 year old girl who is attracted to him, while he was at least 35 at the time).

It was also common among Spartans to let your wife have sex and a child with the "alpha male" of your group.

Also, if you're talking about the old greeks, remember that they were different "tribes", so to speak (like the Spartans and Athene) rather than one united country. The Athenes here the more democratic and peacefull ones and the Spartans, well, I don't think I have to explain the Spartans.

Hope this teached you something new :)

a philosopher huh? what was he? was he perhaps GREEK?!

Indeed he was! Your point being?

This story is an ancient Greek myth and religious teaching.
I don't see your problem.

Prometheus created a figure in the image of gods and Athena breathed life into it. Thus humans were born

Your story comes from Aristophanes

"Zeus summoned his sons Prometheus (fore-thought) and Epimetheus (after-thought). He told them to go to Earth and create men and animals and give them each a gift.

Prometheus set to work forming men in the image of the gods and Epimetheus worked on the animals. As Epimetheus worked he gave each animal he created one of the gifts. After Epimetheus had completed his work Prometheus finally finished making men. However when he went to see what gift to give man Epimetheus shamefacedly informed him that he had foolishly used all the gifts.

Distressed, Prometheus decided he had to give man fire, even though gods were the only ones meant to have access to it. As the sun god rode out into the world the next morning Prometheus took some of the fire and brought it back to man. He taught his creation how to take care of it and then left them."

And here's yet another one.
So which one is "the real" one? Is there a "false" one at all?
I say they're all legit, that's my entire point.

You're version is his version,just more detailed.

Nope, it isn't.
His has Athena, breath of life, no brother of Prometheus, no fire, and no link to Pandora afterwards.

Mine has no Athena, no breath of life, a brother to Prometheus, fire and the direct link to Zeus' wrath and Pandora.

All they have in common is creation of Man and Prometheus. Two different myths.

They're not different,he got the Athena thing wrong,left out Epimethius because he had little to do with the creation of humanity,and din't bother to mention Pandora because that wasn't important for the discussion.
The point here is,this content is retarded and has nothing to do with greek mythology.It's just some bullshit from tumblr.

Yes, he just changed >50% of the story, but it's still totally the same.
Do you even think what you're writing here?

And Aristophanes is everything but retarded.

Yes in the scheme of things it is a big difference,however compared to the massive inaccuracy of this post, it is minor.
And the 'retarded bullshit' is calling this the greek creation myth.Not the story itself.

It is an ancient Greek creation myth, so I really don't get what's all the butthurt on this page about.

It's not considered a creation myth,it's just an allegory for love and a philosophical statement.

Says who?

Says that it's based on a speech given by Aristophanes in Plato's The Symposium.

Still counts.

In this context for you to be right it would have to be an accepted religious teaching.

Nope. A myth is a myth, whether people believe it or not.

Yes if you want to be technical i guess you could be considered right whether or not this is an accepted story,but the post is still wrong in actuality.

Its only fault is that it say "The" instead of "A".

Look,it's a stupid post.It really doesn't matter.

Ok.

I don't recall mentioning I had a problem.

I just stated that what you wrote was untrue, and it still is.

I didn't write anything.
I'm just saying this is a legit ancient Greek creation myth, so OP actually isn't wrong apart from saying it's "the" Greek creation myth.

Sorry, I mistook you for OP.

What I meant was that this story, about the double-human, wasn't what they were taught to believe in generally. It is not how the ancient Greek religion's creation myth were percieved or believed to have happened. It was a philosophers thoughts on genders and our raving for sexual partners, as Reinmar wrote, it is Aristophanes.

That is how it differs from the 'general' religious beliefs at the time.

There were no general religious beliefs. There were as many different gods and myths as there were cities, all telling a different story with different morals, answering different questions.

There was no such thing as "Ancient Greece". Greece? What's that supposed to be, they would have asked you.
There was Sparta, Athen, Theben, Delphi, Argos, Rhodos, Syrakus, Ephesos, Milet and many many more, each their own nation, each an own culture, each one unique.

So what makes a myth from Athen more authentic than one from Delphi or Syrakus?
Nothing. They're all equally legit ancient myths of the collective of civilisations we today label as ancient Greek.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzfg0aBE19Y

Look it up. I think it is true (not sure about the male and male part and vice versa with females)

Nope, the creation of man came after the Titanomachy, where Prometheus (He didn't fight and therefore was not imprisoned in Tatarus with the rest of the Titans) shaped men out of clay and Athena gave them the breath of life.

Maybe Roman theory of creation?

Nope, Roman is basically exactly the same as Greek word for word, but with the names of most of the immortals changed.
Except for Pluto, all the names were changed except for Pluto. It's a common misconception that Hades was the name of the God of the underworld (Disney...) but Hades was actually the name of the entire realm itself, Tatarus being the deepest part. Pluto was kept the same for a reason no one really knows. He was also a pretty cool guy, not evil at all.

Interesting, well. OP is a faggot and i will no longer defend him.

While Hades was the name of the underworld it was also the name of the Greek god. It was Apollo's name didn't change, and no, he is not the same as Helios.

i didn't say zeus created the sun, earth, and moon. this is supposed to be the HUMAN creation myth, like the christian adam and eve story. i said the 3 forms of human REPRESENTED the sun, earth, and moon. and i know zeus didn't do the whole thing. i was simplifying it. i know in the actual greek creation myth, hephaestus cut the humans in half and apollo stitched them together.

I thought the Greek human creation story was that Humans were molded out of the earth through the hands of Prometheus, these humans were said to live among the gods, and freely mingled with them (Golden age). That being wrote down from the poet Hesiod who lived between 750 and 650 BC. But you know I could be wrong. Probably not.

Hesiod says that a golden race was created, and everything was fine and dandy, then the golden people got bitchy, so the gods made a silver race, which was pretty cool, then they got bitchy, and the gods made a bronze race, the homeric heroes, Hercules, etc. then finally they made the iron race, us, and we're all just awful. Everything was better back in the day.

Is what Hesiod says in his Theogeny and Works and Days. Thing is, Socratic dialogues and Hesiods work were not the type of oral tradition myths from which the ancient Greeks actually devised their religious practices. So I stand by my first statement.

I was gonna get all pissed off at you for making a bullshit myth, but since you know your shit, I'll give you a pass and a thumb.

This IS a bullshit myth.

All myths are technically bullshit, but you know what, I chuckled. There's your thumb.

why do people always forget prometheus's brother

The Afterthinker, Epimetheus?

Poor guy gets so ignored that the spell-check for Chrome doesn't think his name is a word. I know about him.

Well just for people who don't know, He help Prometheus and loved humans like his brother too but his punishment was he married Pandora and opened her box :l

He was also responsible for distributing positive traits to all the animals, but because of his lack of foresight, Epimetheus ran out of them when he got to humans. Prometheus made up for his brother's fault with the gift of fire.

I only just saw your comment after it reloaded the page to add mine. I've heard both stories. Epimethius was either sent to Tartarus or was married to Pandora. But either way, 1. She was the one who opened it and 2. it was actually a pithos

yes, Epimethius. The actual reason he gave the humans fire. Epimethius was charged with giving all animals special skills, turtle got a shell, birds got wings and so on. By the time they got to man, they had nothing left and seeing how Zeus had them living in caves with no shelter or anything, stole fire from Olympus and gave it to mankind. Zeus punished both brothers, Epimethius was sent to Tartorus (i think i spelled that wrong but you know what i mean) and Prometheus was to be chained to the rock.

plus women were created as a punishment for man using the fire

(or something like that, i know women were a punishment atleast)

You might be thinking of Pandora specifically, who was made to punish mankind, but not ALL women.

pandora was just given a box and told to never open it, low and behold the dumb bitch opened and out spewed war disease and all the badness in the world

she closed it before it was all let out though, but too late. only thing inside the box now is hope.

still womens fault for everything apparently

Err, actually hope left too. See, hope was the only GOOD thing that was let out of the box. Anyways, I don't see how that story relates to your odd belief that women are at fault for everything.

basically greeks blamed all thats bad and lustful on women. bc women were created to punish man for something