Actually, Mastercheif would win. The Space marines stopped advanced their technology in millenia. The spartans however, make use of any alien tech thry can. and can adapt to fight in any combat situation. THey have energt shields. And they are also as strong as a space marine, while being extremely agile. It would be like a space marine fighting an Eldar. No contest.

Space Marines also have armour and shields on their side. With 2 feet of armour No basic UNSC weapon, not even the Halo 1 Magnum, would pierce through the armour.
A Space Marine fighting an Eldar? Thats funny. Space Marines seem to stomp on those little elf bastards.
Also, I am talking about a Blood Raven Chapter Master.
(Please tell me you have heard more about Warhammer than jsut Space Marine on the Xbox.)

Yes. Ive played table top and read a book. I know a god amount of fluff, though. And considering Spartans are trained to use whatever they have around them, I dont believe its fair to try and limit them to their factions weapons.(I mean, i honestly think your only limitinh them to faction weapons because space marines are forced to be limited. Because they fear they will bet impure if they use other xenos weapons) Its apart of who they are to pick up whatever they can, and beat some ass with it. if youre compairing te two, you cant limit them. That being said, the Spartan could be equiped with any weapon in either universe. Also, A spartan Laser could easily penetrait a Space Marines armor. Space marines also get the shit kicked out of them by eldar all the time. considering their weapons are much more powerful, they have better psychers, and they are more agile. Oh, and they also dedicate thir lives to battle. And they live much longer than space marines.
A spartan is trained in stealth as well. not just frontal assualt. they have cloaking devices and such. Even though space marines start as scouts. its not like them to be sneaky. And more than a little difficult for them to be. even with an iron halo. They wouldn,t be able to stop the assault a spartan like John could bring. Imagine a chapter master trying to survive an wave of Terranid. He would be fucked. John? fights armies of flood by himself. along with the Covenant.

I know what I know, too. and I know a Cm Vs a Spartan is a little more than just one sided. So I had to pull out whatever I can to try and prove you wrong. Me and my brother had the same conversation, he as been playing table top for atleast 10 years. And it was a regular group of spartans vs a space marine squad. and Spartans win for being more versetile. They could pick up a bolter after kiling one space marine, and wreck shit with it right off they bat.

NID and flod arent that different though. They difference being that Nid can be a little more terryfying. The fact is, is that flood is Halos Nid. Its the equivilent to Nid in Halo. I know, Space Marine are pretty bad ass. But a vanilla space marines will pretty much get the shit kicked out of them by anything except for maybe orcs on the table top. They are slower. have shittier weapons than most other races. and shittier psychers. Games Workshop just likes to beat off on space marines because they are money makers. not game winners.

>Implying they could kill a Space Marine and handle Bolter.


They arent that different but 'Nids are A LOT more powerful and I garuntee if they were coming at Chief a Chapter Master would LAST A LOT LONGER.
Judging that Genestealers go through their Terminator Armour.
Chief wouldnt stand a chance against the Brood. The Space Marines can win small battles but they cannot win a war without the help of the Guard.

Cheif, as all Spartans are, are physically augmented to have super strenght. They can flip tanks over for christs sake. They can handle a bolter. Cheif also fights enemies on multiple occassions, that could easily rip right through his armor and kill him instantly. He could survive a nid attack. Not in open warfare. but he could fight his way through say. a complex too a drop ship waiting to take him off planet. Spartans have weapons that can kill a Space marine. Spartan lasers. Roclet launchers. Gauss cannons. Missile Pods. And if you bring the Space Marines amroury into question, the Spartans started out fighting the covenant with projectile weaoponry vs plasma. Like the Tau use. So they are already use to fighting technologicaly advanced races. If anything, you must admit that Spartans vs Space marine is an even fight. Space marines may have hundreds of years of experience, but its hundreds of years of doing the same damn thing. Spartans are constantly changing their tactics and adapting to what ever they are fighting.

No, they cant fething survive a Nid attack. If a whole Space Marine regiment couldnt do it. Cheif will DEFIANTLY not be able to.

You probably meant to use "definitely".

Defiantly :I.

Dude. Cheif isnt a ordinary spartan. Space marine are much bigger targets. And He would use any manner if attack to survive. Even usin Xenos weapons. Which your Space Marines are to scared to use. And cheif has pretty much already proved he can by storming covenant battleships, full of both flood and covenant. Surviving against countless opponents, alone. He could get through too a pelecan drop ship and escape a nid swarm.

He is an ordinary Spartan just like all the rest who gets lucky.
They may be much bigger targets but its finding a weapon that could damage their armour which is the problem.
No, he cant survive Nids. They devour anything in their path and if he even manages to get to a Pelican he can get shot the fuck down by one of their Bioweapons. Or shit on by a Biotitan.
We are talking about fighting a Nid swarm also, bit running away from it.
They dont pick up the weapons because they are heretical. If someone told you to go grab an electric fence, would you? Because that is how Space Marines view using Xenos weapons.

Oh, and thats just how they view them. Which is a weakness. Im not a space marine. If I saw a Xenos weapon. and I was out of ammo, Id fucking use it. And so would John.

I made this comment 3 fucking hours ago. The argument is done and over with. Holy feth.

I had to go do something. A valid conversation can and will continue on if its interesting. And I didnt get to finish what I was saying. So no, it isnt. What the hell is with this "Feth" thing anyways?

ITS DONE AND OVER WITH. FETHING DEAL WITH IT.
And its a different version of saying Fuck. I like how it flows more.

I believe I can do whatever I want, and ive had a conversation last days, with longer than 5 hour breaks between them. Just because you cant stand to see your precious space marines lose a fight, doesnt mean you get to end a conversation when you want to.

"Wars start when you please, but dont end when you will" A regular spartan would probably fail at surviving a nid swarm. And probably wouldnt hold up against a CM for longer either. But John may as well be a god. No space marine can back hand a fucking missile, without he help of Terminator armor. Even then, they would probably take a wound.

I can stand them be defeated. For I know the meaning of sacrifice, as I will give my enemies the same fate. But fuck sakes I am trying to play Minecraft!
Also, they arent precious. My Guardsmen are precious.

Well at least you arent a total Space Marines fan boy, then. They get like 12 codexs for each different chapter. Before half the other races get one. I just really had to make a point man. There are few things I pride myself with. Knowing a lot about Nerdy Science Fiction shit is one of them.

As do I, I am jsut tired as shit and not in a happy mood. I think I might jsut go fully straight as stupid as the sounds. Fucking women are a hassle.
Ive always been more of one for the Guard. If I ever got the chance Id sign up soo fast.
T'au is second favourite, then Witch Hunters

My brother has a Witch Hunters army. He mainly plays Eldar, and apparantly his Eldar havent been beaten in years. I know in the year I had been playing with him, he may have gotten beaten once with Chaos marines. He also has A Necron, and obviously a Chaos army.

Yea, well... FOR THE GREATER GOOD.

Dude, John has back handed a missile fired at him. And fluff wise, John actualy cant lose. He isnt allowed too. He doesnt get lucky. he pretty much has invulnerability. And even without that, hes the perfect soldier. He cant stop a nid invasion, but he can sure as hell fight through one and get away. Spartans are trained to fight one sided battles. He would find a way. Because he has too. Hes pretty much the most OP character you will ever come across. Fluff, and stat wise. He can and will kick the shit out of almost anything you can throw at him.

God, please excuse my grammar. This chat pad is horrid.

Sorry, havent been up for long. and Im using my xbox to browse the web. Im a little clumsy with my chat pad.

Its not like master chief predates the space marines 37500 years or anything and is at a technology disadvantage or anything. Fair fight, no armor. little more even.

So look at orks running round with make sift weapons.

Also, space marines may be demi-gods, but the chief is a full fledged "demon"

And the ending of Chaos Rising, and Retribution.
And DoW I, Soulstorm, and Dark Crusade...

Cause Space Marines_ neeeever_ fought Daemons before

(Horus Heresy)

well, for starters lets just assume its a one on one. A squad of space marines would destroy the chief, no argument there, however when it comes down to a one on one, i think that is when factors such as luck and speed will determine the winner. Master chief is smaller, both in bulk and height, this offers him more agility and speed, able to avoid punches, kicks etc... He also has a highly intelligent AI to help him fight, to analyse the space marines armour, find weak spots, vital spots, etc. I think if it came down to one on one, master chief would win due to agility luck and cortana. pic semi related, has bullets

Chapter Master* Forgot that. And armed with a Power Sword and Bolt Pistol at that.
The Space Marine may be slower but he haas 2 feet of armour protecting him from a punch. Also 200-400 years of experience on him.
Also, the Space Marine's bolter fires .998 Rocket Propelled HE rounds. Which is bigger than the UNSC Sniper and is about an LAV-III Cannon.
The 7.62x54mm NATO FMJ rounds that a BR, AR, or DMR fires wouldnt pierce the armour of the Chapter Master.

lets say master chief has an energy sword and plasma pistol. the chief does a bunch of rolling and dodging, and using cortanas aid is able to get behind the chapter master and slash vital components of the armour, ventilation for example. at that point the chapter master has to remove the helmet or risk cooking, then all it takes is one well placed plasma bolt

Also, I am talking about UNSC weapons as I am staying within factions.

i think the chief should use whatever he has available, adaptability is what allowed him to beat the covenant, so if an energy sword is lying around an armoury he would grab it

Ok, than the Space Marine would be able to use a Bolter and Power Axe. Instead if we can use whatever is available.

sure, bolter and axe is fine, those are space marine weapons

Terminator Armour with Assault Cannon and a Lightning Claw. With Homing Teleporter and Missle launchers on shoulder.
Also in the Armoury.

teleporter is getting a little ahead of yourself there

Well, they do have it.

its a fight, not a tech contest

Anything in their armoury.
I can bring it out since I have it in the laying around. It can be used in the fight to manipulate the enemy.

It's all about having a fair fight. The Space Marines are, compared to the technology at Chief's time, hyper-advanced. So I'd be proposing a rather simple fight.
1. No armor.
2. Master Chief would use a Gravity Hammer, and the Space Marine would be using a Power Axe.

This way it would be much more interesting.

I wouldnt say hyper advanced. Their main form of weaponry, the bolter, is still a projectile weapon. Id say the Eldar are hyper advanced Since Tau are pretty much they covenant, and as far as tech goes, they are passed only by the Eldar.

How about a good 'ole brawl?

this is getting ridiculous

The argument that Master Chief could beat a 10 foot tall, 2 ton, death machine augmented beyond belief, designed to fight 30 foot tall Daemons is getting ridiculous.

not really, he took on groups of up to 8, 24 foot tall hulking hive minded beasts that vomitted plasma beams

Daemons>Scarabs.

I was referring to hunters, but those too. besides, i think if the chief and a chapter master actualy met, theyd have tea and share dry humour

As long as he meets the Classy Marines and not the Angry Marines.

all space marines are classy

Specialy those Grey Knights

But Master Chief lacks the capability to wield both weapons at once.
The CM could back hand Master Chief. Space Marines are incredibly agile for their size.