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User avatar #5 - pfccross (08/12/2012) [-]
Dont read this if you arnt interested in philosophy or scientific theories.

I saw on the show "through the wormhole" that scientists have discovered some sort of phenomenon that involves parts of your brain being able to communicate with other parts of your brain without direct connection. The theory basically involves the idea that because all matter came from the cosmos at some point, it is all connected in some way. Even though those parts of your brain were not connected, they could still communicate somehow. This suggests a sort of invisible consciousness with the cosmos that could survive after your body dies. It doesn't make as much sense without the details from the show, but if it interests you, i believe the episode name is " is there life after death"
#49 to #5 - nobodyhere (08/12/2012) [-]
But all of our consciousness comes from the brain so logically once the brain dies, we die. Also, if there is some sort of afterlife using your logic, there must also be an afterlife for every living creature that ever existed not just humans.
User avatar #67 to #49 - pfccross (08/13/2012) [-]
Exactly. Everything is made from the same cosmic matter that just settled in different paterns to form different molecules. In its way, it is all aware of the cosmos. This doesnt mean it can think and comprehend the cosmos though. Our atoms are aware in relation to the cosmos, but that doesn't mean are brain can actively recognize everything in the universe, that isn't how it was programmed to function.
#68 to #67 - nobodyhere (08/16/2012) [-]
You say we are all made from cosmic matter that just settled in different patterns to form different molecules. This does not imply that consciousness will exist after death. I don't know all the details but our consciousness comes completely from the synapses and neurons firing in our brain. Take that away and you take consciousness away. After we die, the matter in our brain will not be destroyed but will simply deteriorate and take another form and at that point, we will be just as alive as your coffee table or any other inanimate object.
User avatar #69 to #68 - pfccross (08/16/2012) [-]
however some scientists showed that the brain in some circumstances is able to communicate with itself without a direct physical link. Also, while sleeping, stimulated neurons do not communicate with eachother (also tested) yet the brain is quite active.
#70 to #69 - nobodyhere (08/18/2012) [-]
But how is this evidence of an afterlife? for example, just because a computer is able to communicate with other devices wirelessly, does this mean that there is an afterlife for broken down computers?
User avatar #71 to #70 - pfccross (08/18/2012) [-]
they believe that it shows that cosmic matter is somehow self-aware and able to communicate outside the usual expected restrictions. So they believe that perhaps our contagiousness does not NEED our body to survive and that when we die, it could go somewhere else. Also, they looked into people that have had near death experiences, and people that were starved for oxygen in the brain to see if that could be the reason people claim to see things when near death. They found that those who were starved for oxygen said that had an out of body experience or felt like they were floating out of their body, while those with near death experiences almost always mentioned meeting some sort of super natural being, or other deceased.
#72 to #71 - nobodyhere (08/18/2012) [-]
I now realize that you are talking nonsense because most people with near death experiences do not see some sort of supernatural being. There are a lot of people who see absolutely nothing. Also, that bit about floating outside of your body and seeing supernatural beings has been tested and explained as nothing more than chemical reactions occurring in the brain before you die. ALL evidence shows that without a brain, our consciousness would cease. You have shown me no valid evidence otherwise. You have simply given me speculations of speculations made unnamed scientists. Show me these studies and I guarantee you they have been refuted.Just like you, I used to watch these pseudo intellectuals who think they understand quantum physics and think because they put the word, "quantum" in front of anything, it gives it credibility. As Richard Feynman once said, "If you think you understand quantum mechanics, you don't understand quantum mechanics."
User avatar #73 to #72 - pfccross (08/19/2012) [-]
now I think you are being overly critical and closed-minded. You have lost my respect. We are done here.
#74 to #73 - nobodyhere (08/19/2012) [-]
Over critical? Please show me the sources of what you are saying. I am very open minded but also very critical. I don't accept far fetched claims without any evidence to support it.
User avatar #48 to #5 - comentator (08/12/2012) [-]
Something like Carl Gustav Jung said_
User avatar #44 to #5 - krakalisk (08/12/2012) [-]
It's called Quantum Entanglement.....
#29 to #5 - mr skeltal (08/12/2012) [-]
Here's a link to the episode you're talking about.
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User avatar #13 to #5 - allamericandude (08/12/2012) [-]
Eh, I didn't see that episode, but I sort of know what you're talking about. It sounds like one of those theories that takes an actual scientific theory and manipulates it to support some new-age hippy ******** theory (I'm not insulting your intelligence here, I'm just saying they tend to not be very scientific).

The "actual" theory that I have heard that could relate to this is that, since no electron can be in the exact same state as any other electron, if you alter the state of an electron you actually alter the state of every electron in the universe. Some people used that theory and used it to promote that idea of "universal consciousness" or "connectedness" or whatever. And there are a few other scientific theories that they have used as well.

As for that brain theory thingy, the first hole in that idea that I can think of is that most of the parts of the brain are at least indirectly connected to every other part all the time. Now, if they could show different parts of the brain communicating with each other when those parts are on different sides of a room, that would be impressive.

But even still, using brain wave patterns to explain the nature of the entire universe is a bit of a stretch, by most standards. Neurology and astrophysics aren't exactly the closest relatives.

Having said all that, no hypothesis is a bad hypothesis so long as it follows the scientific method. There's always the possibility that it could be correct. Just don't go chasing it without evidence.
User avatar #46 to #13 - limethief (08/12/2012) [-]
The "actual theory" is called Pauli's Exclusion Principle, and pretty generally only relates to electrons in the same atom, rather than every electron in the universe. That would imply transfer of useful information faster than the speed of light, which is, for now, impossible.




But then again i'll believe anything morgan freeman tells me, and i haven't watched the episode.
User avatar #66 to #46 - allamericandude (08/12/2012) [-]
I was going to write a comment, and I was watching a video to back up my comment, but then I figured I might as well just give you the video:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASZWediSfTU
#9 to #5 - apietotheface (08/12/2012) [-]
he is right you know
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