Erm you do know that was 96, so for over a decade no one had heard of his ass?

A decade of no one knowing his crap = he sucked back then, and he was probably working at mcdonalds because his raps were not paying him shit back then.

underground hip-hop exists. i bet you have no idea who hopsin is?

Hopsin sounds more like he is trying to be eminem in the early years. Any mother fucker can find underground rap thanks to the internet. Back in 94, most people unless they were in the surrounding area, would not know who that is. What you said is equivalent to me asking if you know who walking corpse syndrome is. So when some really good underground rapper was discovered back then, it was a big thing.

>implying there wasnt internet back in 92

hospin just raps what he means

*facepalm* I am not here to argue about the internet back in the day.

For example: an underground georgian death metal band by the name of baphomet, released an album titled the dead shall inherit, in 92. They died out quick due to there being little to no way to make publicity back then, though they inspired many new bands, as well as many bands doing covers of their songs.

I honestly enjoy the song: ILL MIND OF HOPSIN, but most people who listen to new rap know who he is...

Hopsin got fame by dissing other rappers, kind of pathetic if you ask me, and he's not underground. Immoral Technique and Tonedeff are underground.

Hopsin got fame by speaking the truth of other rappers if it means dissing then so be it.

He dissed Lupe Fiasco. Why? because Lupe said he supports skateboarders and then proceeded to say "I bet you can't even ollie" that's one of the most pathetic things I have heard in rap.

No he actually started in Cash Money records in 1992 when he was 9 and a little after that he was in a group called the Hot Boys.

So that makes it even better? Now that is almost 2 decades of him not being known, hell ICP was more known than him at the start [around the same time] so how dose the fact that he never did shit with his career till auto-tune came out?

Please do inform me how i am mistaken.

Are you serious man? Have you heard I miss my dawgs and everything? Those are two of his top songs and they came out in 2004 and 2000 Plus most of his auto-tuned songs are serious. You don't know shit about Lil Wayne do you?

04, 00, that is still around a decade of no one knowing him.

I have also heard his "heavy metal", my sister used to be a serious boot licker of the weezy effect. I have heard just about all of his songs, and even his good songs are worse than cypress hills worst songs.

I know more than most, along with the amount i know about little wayne, I know he is a shitty artist.

Think about this, no one asked Lil Wayne to try a different genre, no one asked him to learn guitar, no one asked him to skateboard. But he keeps an open mind to new things he might not be very good at them but he's learning, that's a reason I got respect for him, also his loyalty to his record label, and his charity organization. I like his music but he has contributed more to society than anyone that talks shit about him.

I help out at food banks, dog shelters, and i do random acts of kindness every chance i get.

He pollutes the young minds of kids thinking what he raps about is cool to do.
^sure that is a parent problem, but i have yet to see a kid follow death metal lyrics like they do with him.

The rest of your argument is quite equal to the defense people put up against haters of the beiber craze, or brony culture. I am not saying he is shit, since obviously some idiots people like his music. I just think that he should not have so many people on his coattails thinking he is a demi-god to modern society and music for that matter.

Well technically, according so some lyric analyzers he is sort of a demi-god, see most of the time his lyrics have a second meaning, that's why he said "I think you stand under me, if you don't understand me"

Time to do my speal.... *grabs sisters ipod she left at my place* time to pull a random lil wayne song. my homie still:

Man fuck ya'll with a sick dick Semi automatic no click click, we don't feel you
Like an elephant, getting fucked with a tick dick Little nigga with a thick bitch, and before I fuck this bitch I gotta put that patch over my third eye, slick rick
Trukfit, t-shirt, talk second, skeet first Boy your girl a jump off, I hope she land feet first
She give me brain, research, and I prefer reefer But if you want some coke, that's cool, cause my homies still (Pump that bass, pump that bass, pump that bass) Yeah my homies still Ha ha my homies still Yeah my homies still Don't make my goons go stupid, go stupid, go stupid Don't make my goons go stupid, go stupid, go stupid [Big Sean]
OK, my girl's and cars both skirt off I like the pussy so wet that I can surf off In the hot spot cause a nigga never chilling I do it for my niggas, I just do it to these bitches
Boy, I overgrind, overshine, ain't another nigga over Sean I'm getting paid, it's over time, I'm rolling pine I'm so divine, I'm west side, west side, dark glasses on Like I'm going blind, looking like Eazy E, it's just me And lil weezy wee, get off my dick

Now explain how that is lyrically genius compared to Call 911 by west side connections.

I must admit My Homies still isn't the best example.

I, knock on the door, hope isn't home,
fates not around, the lucks all gone
don't ask me whats wrong, ask me whats right
and ima tell you whats life
and did you know?
I lost everything, but I ain't the only one
first came the hurricane, then the morning sun
Excuse me if I'm on one, and don't trip if i light one, i walk a tight one
They try to tell me keep my eyes open
my whole city under water, some people still floatin
then they wonder why black people still voting, cause your presidents still chokin
Take away the football team, the basketball team
now all we got is me to represent New Orleans
no governor, no help from the mayor
just a steady beatin heart, and a wish and a prayer

Well is that your best example of his lyrical genius? If it is i know of 2 different songs off the top of my head that are deeper than that, also my sister lived in Orleans during katrina, she even named my dog after it. So his deep song is equal to that one guy who sung about the twin towers?

I know... I know. Lil Weezy, this is dedicated to my father.
What happened nigga? Ya'll excuse the expressions.
What it be like up in heaven? Hey it's ya son holla'n at cha.
I miss the shit without ya.It's hard to be without ya. But
I know you watchin. Keep it down on how many, hey tell
Jesus,"Thank You" for the blessings he's sending.Please
ask him to forgive me for the sins I commit. Just let him
know I'm still young and have risks. Say ha, I won't forget
the time you caught me smoking herb in the house, I was
dead wrong and I deserved to get out. But, you just talked
it over with my mom and got it situated in due time and told
me to get the paper instead of high. So, now I take that advice
and shead light over my whole life dawg. I wanted to be just
like you, my whole life dawg. I can't believe them niggas
blowed you, that shit's pain to me. But don't trip, I hold you
down, you still remain through me. Dawg I know I can't see
you, but I bet that you smilin'. I'm a make you even happier, I
promise.

So how is that lyrically genius? I mean it sounds heartfelt but that is not even that deep.

Btw red thumb not from me.

I didn't say lyrically genius, I said his lyrics in songs that are seemingly stupid mean something else. www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107858859517/ Read the first comment, this guy kind of has a point, not that I completely believe it.

Yeah that's what I thought about this guy and I'm sure some of it can was just what the lyrics said, but I feel like there's more than meets the eye.

Honestly, You gained a mark or two in my favor. I have debated how crappy little wayne was, and you are the only one to present a decent argument against it being shit. I still think he sucks, but hey everyone likes what they like, i like my music to have meaning even when there is no lyrics in the song.

Well thank you.

No problem, have a good day sir.

You too

How dose that change the fact***